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NFL's Top 100 players of all time...
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geno
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Actually, the fan vote had him rated higher. #5 overall.
I don't agree with Rice being #1, but I do understand how he got it.
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He is still active and will probably play several more years, so he can move up that list.
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geno
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Yeah, I know. Only two active players were voted into the top 10 in the fan vote, however. I did find that somewhat surprising.
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Glad to see Don Hutson getting some love too.
Trying to seperate the man from the accomplishments on the field is hard, especially seeing Randy Moss at #65/24. From a pure athlete, I think he ranks a little higher than #65, perhaps around #50. But once he takes off those pads, would rank just below TJ Rubley.
Trying to seperate the man from the accomplishments on the field is hard, especially seeing Randy Moss at #65/24. From a pure athlete, I think he ranks a little higher than #65, perhaps around #50. But once he takes off those pads, would rank just below TJ Rubley.
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I do agree to some extent, which is why I was pleasantly surprised to see Unitas that high.
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edit: I'm just talking about the top-10. Clearly all of these players are among the greatest ever.
The list is good, but I have some issues with it.
#1, Peyton Manning is awesome, but he doesn't belong on this list. Not by a mile.
Guys like Bart Starr, Otto Graham, Joe Montana, Roger Staubach, and Johnny Unitas (yes, here's on there) all, IMO, belong on the list before Manning does. That doesn't take away from how unbelievable good he is, but I think that it's a little biased to hop him up there over some of these other guys who (a) didn't play indoors and (b) played under rules that make their numbers and accomplishments more impressive.
Even guys like Sid Luckman and Sammy Baugh (both pre-modern) belong on there before Peyton. Luckman in particular... he is still #2 all-time in YPA, despite playing in an age when receivers got murdered and running dominated offenses.
Butkus definitely doesn't belong on there and Peyton, while he was amazing, should take a back seat to some other players.
Jerry Rice shouldn't be #1. Sorry, he was an amazingly dominant receiver (probably the second most dominant ever), but there are other positions that are far more valuable to a football team.
The list is good, but I have some issues with it.
#1, Peyton Manning is awesome, but he doesn't belong on this list. Not by a mile.
Guys like Bart Starr, Otto Graham, Joe Montana, Roger Staubach, and Johnny Unitas (yes, here's on there) all, IMO, belong on the list before Manning does. That doesn't take away from how unbelievable good he is, but I think that it's a little biased to hop him up there over some of these other guys who (a) didn't play indoors and (b) played under rules that make their numbers and accomplishments more impressive.
Even guys like Sid Luckman and Sammy Baugh (both pre-modern) belong on there before Peyton. Luckman in particular... he is still #2 all-time in YPA, despite playing in an age when receivers got murdered and running dominated offenses.
Butkus definitely doesn't belong on there and Peyton, while he was amazing, should take a back seat to some other players.
Jerry Rice shouldn't be #1. Sorry, he was an amazingly dominant receiver (probably the second most dominant ever), but there are other positions that are far more valuable to a football team.
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Unitas played for the "Baltimore" Colts. To hell with Indy!
...jk.
Go LT(the original)!
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He definitely belongs on the list, but maybe you disagree with where he falls in the list. That's fair.
I definitely agree. I was shocked he was #1.
I'm surprised they didn't pick a quarterback as #1 more than anything else, and I'm surprised Marino is so 'low'.
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BeauJangles
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Yup. Payton is awesome, just maybe not awesome enough to crack the top 10. Yet.
lol no way. Peyton Manning's physical and mental skill sets would have him raping in grandpa NFL.
Sorry, but you can't mesh the two eras and say one is better than the other. In fact your argument works against you because with time the NFL has become vastly more popular with far more people trying to play it and thus expanding the talent pool and pushing the performance envelope.
I could argue that the greats of old looked greater because they were playing against worse average competition.
And Rice should be #1. He's hands down the best player at his position, by a long shot. It doesn't matter that there are slightly more important positions to a team, its not even close how much more accomplished he is compared to everyone else.
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The rules were MUCH different back then. DBs could beat the crap out of receivers and get away with it. I think that is what makes Unitas even more impressive.
I do agree with your comment about Manning though. :awe:
If you put a 24 year-old Barry Sanders in the NFL today, he would be a top 3 back. Period.
He benefitted more from Montana and Young than Montana and Young benefitted from him, I think.
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