NFL Week 17 Thread

Chaotic42

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WEEK 17

SUNDAY, DEC 31, 2017
Chicago at Minnesota.........1:00 pm...FOX
Cleveland at Pittsburgh......1:00 pm...CBS
Dallas at Philadelphia.......1:00 pm...FOX
Green Bay at Detroit.........1:00 pm...FOX
Houston at Indianapolis......1:00 pm...CBS
N.Y. Jets at New England.....1:00 pm...CBS
Washington at N.Y. Giants....1:00 pm...FOX
Arizona at Seattle...........4:25 pm...FOX
Buffalo at Miami.............4:25 pm...CBS
Carolina at Atlanta..........4:25 pm...FOX
Cincinnati at Baltimore......4:25 pm...CBS
Jacksonville at Tennessee....4:25 pm...CBS
Kansas City at Denver........4:25 pm...CBS
New Orleans at Tampa Bay.....4:25 pm...FOX
Oakland at L.A. Chargers.....4:25 pm...CBS
San Francisco at L.A. Rams...4:25 pm...FOX

Standings
[*] Clinched Homefield Advantage in Playoffs
[y] Clinched Division Title
[z] Clinched First-Round Bye
[x] Clinched Playoff Berth
AFC
[xyz] Patriots...12-3
[xyz] Steelers...12-3
[xy] Jaguars.....10-5
[xy] Chiefs.......9-6

Wild Card
Ravens............9-6
Titans............8-7

In The Hunt
Chargers..........8-7
Bills.............8-7

NFC
[xyz*] Eagles....13-2
[xy] Vikings.....12-3
[xy] Rams........11-4
[x] Saints.......11-4

Wild Card
[x] Panthers.....11-4
Falcons...........9-6

In The Hunt
Seahawks..........9-6
 

glenn1

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Go Indy and beat HOU so the Browns can have the #1 and #3 overall picks in the draft. And then subsequently screw it up.

But honestly if they got someone like Case Keenum as a FA to solve their QB problem, then added RB Squaron Barkely and then an elite defensive player in the first round then the AFC-N could be very interesting next year. They could be the 2018 version of the Rams.
 

BUTCH1

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Jets have sacked Brady twice already, plus forced 2 3/out's in the last 2 possessions. Maybe the Steelers resting all their starters vs the Browns has given the Jets coach Bowles locker-room material. "gee, I guess they think we have zero chance"..
 

glenn1

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Go Browns go! Tied it up despite Kizer starting while not really even being a NFL quality QB. You can do it guys!
 

BUTCH1

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Go Browns go! Tied it up despite Kizer starting while not really even being a NFL quality QB. You can do it guys!
Steelers took Ben, Bell, + other starters inactive for this game, they are not eligible to play even if they fell behind. Hoping the Browns can avoid a winless season.
 

BUTCH1

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Eagles offense again looking offensive, zero points at home vs the Cowboys as they are behind 6-0. Philly fans must now know that even as a #1 seed this team will not go anywhere in the playoff's.
 

glenn1

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Wow, Coleman was so shocked that Kizer made an accurate pass the ball went right through his hands. Perfect season Cleveland.
 
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GagHalfrunt

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Go Giants!!! They managed to get a big W and they did it without screwing up their draft position. Still a solid #2 behind Cleveland.
 

BUTCH1

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Wow, Coleman was so shocked that Kizer made an accurate pass the ball went right through his hands. Perfect season Cleveland.
Yea, damm, I feel bad for that kid, he's hardly the reason they went 0-16 but he IS the reason they could not seal the deal today.
 

BUTCH1

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Harrison has a great 1st game as a Patriot, 2.5 tackles, 2 sacks. Good for him, the Steeler players were quick to trash the dude when he signed with the Pats. All of them said, "oh, it's not about the Pats, it's about him quitting when he was here", whatever, this is just not the type of guy that want's to collect a check and watch, he knows he is near the end of his days and wants to play. Today he proved he still CAN play, expect more #92 jersey's burning on Twitter LOL!.
 

BUTCH1

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First sweep of the packers since '91

kinda feels good
Too bad the Lions are not in competition for a playoff spot. In many games they seem to self-implode at the worst possible time. Jag's doing that today, they force a Titan punt, then the returner calls for a fair catch, then abandons said catch to inexplicably block a Titan player. Titans get the ball at the 11, wind up kicking a FG. Jag's then take the kickoff and on 1st play proceed to fumble it back to the Titan's at the 25.Talk about melt-down, this is turning into an epic one.
 

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Walsh missed the game winning fg, a comical season comes full circle for the seahawks.
 

Anubis

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tbqhwy.com
the games at 1 were pretty borning
the games this afternoon were much better and the ravens bungles game was kinda nuts
 

BUTCH1

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Not enthused with how the Saints played today.
Yea, you'd like to see a solid game going into the playoff's. In a wild afternoon the Bengals give Buffalo a HUGE favor by beating the Ravens in Baltimore. Ravens were up by 3 and had the Bengals needing a 4th and 13 to keep the drive going, Dalton fires a strike on a seam-route and the receiver breaks free taking it in for a TD from the 45yrd line. You could have heard a pin drop as the stunned crowd watched the Bungles fail to Bungle. LOL, I'm glad for Buffalo, they've been scrapping along all season and finally end the 17yr playoff drought.
 

glenn1

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Yeah, that's just brutal. I haven't watched any Browns football this year (because why would I?), but I'm not sure the QB is the problem there.

He is a large part of the problem, he's like Tim Tebow level bad at QB. For every good throw the guy made, he made at least 3 or 4 terrible throws. Many were nowhere near the intended receiver with several underthrown by a dozen yards or more. It wasn't uncommon at all to not even see any players on the screen when the ball hit the turf (from either team much less the Browns). It doesn't help either that Browns RBs are absolutely terrible at pass protection as well.
 
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BUTCH1

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He is a large part of the problem, he's like Tim Tebow level bad at QB. For every good throw the guy made, he made at least 3 or 4 terrible throws. Many were nowhere near the intended receiver with several underthrown by a dozen yards or more. It wasn't uncommon at all to not even see any players on the screen when the ball hit the turf (from either team much less the Browns). It doesn't help either that Browns RBs are absolutely terrible at pass protection as well.
Amazingly, the head coach still has a job. Maybe if they get a decent QB with that draft pick they will see better days ahead. To their credit, they have been scrapping every game I see them play in, but it seems SOMETHING is going to wrong to deny them the win.
 

Chaotic42

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I haven't followed much Raiders football either, but should Del Rio really have been fired? I know they want Gruden, but he's got a pretty cushy job at ESPN, I'm not sure he'd leave for them.
 

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I haven't followed much Raiders football either, but should Del Rio really have been fired? I know they want Gruden, but he's got a pretty cushy job at ESPN, I'm not sure he'd leave for them.

Gruden is leaving espn
 

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He is a large part of the problem, he's like Tim Tebow level bad at QB. For every good throw the guy made, he made at least 3 or 4 terrible throws. Many were nowhere near the intended receiver with several underthrown by a dozen yards or more. It wasn't uncommon at all to not even see any players on the screen when the ball hit the turf (from either team much less the Browns). It doesn't help either that Browns RBs are absolutely terrible at pass protection as well.

Not to be dismissive of your criticism, but you can’t make a good throw, make that timed pass, when half of your offensive line caves in on you.

You have to start looking at other stats. How many times was he hit, hurried, stressed to make that throw.

If you look at those stats, no one could make a decent throw. If you have an offensive line that isn’t good, you need to adapt your offense. They need a GREAT running back that can block, they need to make short throws, and get the ball out under 2 seconds.

When fans criticize teams or coaches, you have to wonder if they look at the entire play or field. Don’t just look at the QB.

Brady, Manning, and anyone else under that kind of pressure, sucks. The difference between a good QB and a bad one, is thin. I’d take an Alex Smith over Brady with a bad offensive line, because Alex is used to it. Brady plays terribly with a bad Oline. Just look at those crucial stats.