NFL Shocker .... Cam Newton Steps in It

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theeedude

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Typical phony liberal mentality, role models when it's in their "politically correct" favor, throw the woman under the bus when it isn't.

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What is your problem with this picture? Lack of loyalty to the state?
 

UglyCasanova

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The point was that he didn't lose his job, get banned, fined or penalized. He apologized and is known to be immature. Being racist and immature are two different things. He has two daughters and knows now what he said was stupid. None of your examples are good. And what he said is not the same as the Google employee.


It’s not just immature, it’s sexist which in the grand scheme of bad things is just like racist. In both you have these preconceived notions about someone else based on something irrelevant (gender or skin color). I think both are equally bad but I also think both have been highly politicized.
 

bshole

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He said a dumb thing. so what.

He said a misogynist thing, there is a difference. A google employee lost his job for essentially the same thing. Is there one set of rules for NFL players and a separate set of rules for the rest of us?
 

brycejones

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He said a misogynist thing, there is a difference. A google employee lost his job for essentially the same thing. Is there one set of rules for NFL players and a separate set of rules for the rest of us?

I would argue there is a different set of rules for every business unless you want to pass laws that mandate firings if certain things are said.
 
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J.Wilkins

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He lost his sponsorship from Dannon Yogurt, It remains to be seen how many more drop him.

What he said to a female reporter:


Should he be allowed to keep his job or should he be permabanned from the NFL?

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...signs-dak-prescott-after-dropping-cam-newton/

This is where that "snowflake" idiom comes from...

Was it a stupid thing to say, sure, but was it malicious? I don't think so.

Intent matters and I'd prefer it if she got to tell him what she knows about the game rather than to have a discussion about him being "insensitive to her emotions".

'murica, always taking every fucking thing way too far.
 
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GagHalfrunt

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Expecting them to be role models is kind of silly.

The team owner expects him them to create fans and sell tickets. The players sponsors expect him to connect with fans and put a positive image on their products. If a QB alienates people it costs the owner money and it costs the sponsors money.

Were you out the day they taught economics? That modern day gladiator shit is fine for tight ends and defensive backs, more is expected from QBs.
 
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bshole

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Female reporters should take a knee.

For whatever reason that struck me as hilarious.

This is where that "snowflake" idiom comes from...

Was it a stupid thing to say, sure, but was it malicious? I don't think so.

Intent matters and I'd prefer it if she got to tell him what she knows about the game rather than to have a discussion about him being "insensitive to her emotions".

'murica, always taking every fucking thing way too far.

I disagree. It was definitely worse according to the female reporter.

Rodrigue tweeted that she later confronted Newton about his comment. The second exchange “was worse,” she said.

“I chose not to share, because I have an actual job to do today and one he will not keep me from,” she said.

A Panthers’ spokesman told ESPN that Newton told Rodrigue that he regretted his choice of words, but Rodrigue issued her own statement, saying that Newton had not apologized.

His comments, Rodrigue said, “belittled” her and other women who work in similar jobs.

Bottom line, the man thinks women are pretty little airheads too stupid to understand the deep complexity of football..... of FOOTBALL!
 

J.Wilkins

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For whatever reason that struck me as hilarious.



I disagree. It was definitely worse according to the female reporter.



Bottom line, the man thinks women are pretty little airheads too stupid to understand the deep complexity of football..... of FOOTBALL!

Again, so fucking what? Is this really something to be concerned with? The meathead is a retard, news at 11.
 

bshole

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Again, so fucking what? Is this really something to be concerned with? The meathead is a retard, news at 11.

If Aaron Rodgers thought blacks were inferior to whites and said so, should he be allowed to keep his job?
 

GagHalfrunt

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He said a misogynist thing, there is a difference. A google employee lost his job for essentially the same thing. Is there one set of rules for NFL players and a separate set of rules for the rest of us?

There's a different set of rules for everyone in the USA. That set of rules is created by the employer. Google has their standards and the NFL has theirs. But in the case of NFL players it's actually three sets of standards. The team owner has rules and won't allow a player to make the franchise look bad. The league has rules and won't allow players to make the NFL look bad, or at least not bad in specific ways. And the sponsor has rules and won't employ someone that reflects poorly on their image and turns people off from the product.

What your boss allows mine might discipline and what my boss allows Google might fire someone for.
 

J.Wilkins

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If Aaron Rodgers thought blacks were inferior to whites and said so, should he be allowed to keep his job?

Is the NFL a white only kinda league? Is it a men only kinda league?

Apples and orange elephants in comparison does not a fruit salad make.
 

bshole

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Is the NFL a white only kinda league? Is it a men only kinda league?

Apples and orange elephants in comparison does not a fruit salad make.

I guess I wasn't clear. From your perspective is there anything an NFL player could say that they should be fired for? For you, Cam simply said a stupid thing. I am interested in knowing where your line is for firing a QB for saying something.

Also, is misogyny morally better than racism?
 

UglyCasanova

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I guess I wasn't clear. From your perspective is there anything an NFL player could say that they should be fired for? For you, Cam simply said a stupid thing. I am interested in knowing where your line is for firing a QB for saying something.

Also, is misogyny morally better than racism?

I’m not speaking for him but IMO no there is no difference morally speaking although misogyny / sexism is more tolerated (or better yet not even understood, people are sexist and not realizing it). The Google example works due to the moral equivalence but each company and each situation is different. I do agree in the US we take things way too far and social media has exacerbated that. People have their pitchforks at hand and there’s definitely a political aspect to it also, R's and D’s love to fan the flames and make the situation worse.
 

J.Wilkins

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I guess I wasn't clear. From your perspective is there anything an NFL player could say that they should be fired for? For you, Cam simply said a stupid thing. I am interested in knowing where your line is for firing a QB for saying something.

Also, is misogyny morally better than racism?

I don't think he was being misogynistic in the least so... Now if he had said that women are just a bunch of sluts that he as a star can go around grabbing by the pussy I'd say he's fit to be President of the US.

If he had said the same thing about black people it wouldn't make sense and would be clearly racist, given that there are NO women playing for the NFL his comments at least makes sense.

It's kinda like saying "women don't understand what it's like to be a man"... Is that misogynistic? Why not? They are as excluded from being in the NFL as they are from being actual men.
 

J.Wilkins

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I’m not speaking for him but IMO no there is no difference morally speaking although misogyny / sexism is more tolerated (or better yet not even understood, people are sexist and not realizing it). The Google example works due to the moral equivalence but each company and each situation is different. I do agree in the US we take things way too far and social media has exacerbated that. People have their pitchforks at hand and there’s definitely a political aspect to it also, R's and D’s love to fan the flames and make the situation worse.

Yeah, you're not speaking for me at all.

I disagree with everything you just puked out and will walk around it.
 

UglyCasanova

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If he had said the same thing about black people it wouldn't make sense and would be clearly racist, given that there are NO women playing for the NFL his comments at least makes sense.

It's kinda like saying "women don't understand what it's like to be a man"... Is that misogynistic? Why not? They are as excluded from being in the NFL as they are from being actual men.

Women work in the NFL, just not as players.