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NFL question on +2 point conversions..

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Suppose a team is passing for a 2 point conversion, and the other team intercepts in the endzone, runs it back to the 50. Do they continue to posses the ball, or does the original team have to kick it off to them?

-or-

Suppose a team is passing for a 2 point conversion, and the other team intercepts in the endzone, and runs it back for a TD. Who kicks off to who?

-and-

if the team that intercepted the ball for a TD, goes for a 2 point conversion, has it intercepted in the endzone and run back the other way for another TD, who kicks off to who?

Is this an NFL infinite loop???????????????????????????????????????????????????????

 
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Suppose a team is passing for a 2 point conversion, and the other team intercepts in the endzone, runs it back to the 50. Do they continue to posses the ball, or does the original team have to kick it off to them?

-or-

Suppose a team is passing for a 2 point conversion, and the other team intercepts in the endzone, and runs it back for a TD. Who kicks off to who?

-and-

if the team that intercepted the ball for a TD, goes for a 2 point conversion, has it intercepted in the endzone and run back the other way for another TD, who kicks off to who?

Is this an NFL infinite loop???????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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1. The team that just scored kicks the ball off.
2. Its not a TD its a 1 point conversion. The team that scored the TD kicks off.
3. Not plausible.
 
Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Suppose a team is passing for a 2 point conversion, and the other team intercepts in the endzone, runs it back to the 50. Do they continue to posses the ball, or does the original team have to kick it off to them?

-or-

Suppose a team is passing for a 2 point conversion, and the other team intercepts in the endzone, and runs it back for a TD. Who kicks off to who?

-and-

if the team that intercepted the ball for a TD, goes for a 2 point conversion, has it intercepted in the endzone and run back the other way for another TD, who kicks off to who?

Is this an NFL infinite loop???????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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1. The team that just scored kicks the ball off.
2. Its not a TD its a 1 point conversion IRCC.
3. Not plausible.
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You mean that if the intercepting team runs it back to the other endzone its 1 point?
 
Situation 1: No, it's a botched extra point and the team that scored will kick off.

EDIT: Was wrong on the other two.
 
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Suppose a team is passing for a 2 point conversion, and the other team intercepts in the endzone, runs it back to the 50. Do they continue to posses the ball, or does the original team have to kick it off to them?

-or-

Suppose a team is passing for a 2 point conversion, and the other team intercepts in the endzone, and runs it back for a TD. Who kicks off to who?

-and-

if the team that intercepted the ball for a TD, goes for a 2 point conversion, has it intercepted in the endzone and run back the other way for another TD, who kicks off to who?

Is this an NFL infinite loop???????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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1. The team that just scored kicks the ball off.
2. Its not a TD its a 1 point conversion IRCC.
3. Not plausible.
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You mean that if the intercepting team runs it back to the other endzone its 1 point?
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I believe that is correct.
 
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Suppose a team is passing for a 2 point conversion, and the other team intercepts in the endzone, runs it back to the 50. Do they continue to posses the ball, or does the original team have to kick it off to them?

-or-

Suppose a team is passing for a 2 point conversion, and the other team intercepts in the endzone, and runs it back for a TD. Who kicks off to who?

-and-

if the team that intercepted the ball for a TD, goes for a 2 point conversion, has it intercepted in the endzone and run back the other way for another TD, who kicks off to who?

Is this an NFL infinite loop???????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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1. The team that just scored kicks the ball off.
2. Its not a TD its a 1 point conversion IRCC.
3. Not plausible.
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You mean that if the intercepting team runs it back to the other endzone its 1 point?
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Yes on an extra point/two point conversion, any "TD" scored by the defensive team only counts as an extra point. Its the rare NFL one point play.
 
Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Suppose a team is passing for a 2 point conversion, and the other team intercepts in the endzone, runs it back to the 50. Do they continue to posses the ball, or does the original team have to kick it off to them?

-or-

Suppose a team is passing for a 2 point conversion, and the other team intercepts in the endzone, and runs it back for a TD. Who kicks off to who?

-and-

if the team that intercepted the ball for a TD, goes for a 2 point conversion, has it intercepted in the endzone and run back the other way for another TD, who kicks off to who?

Is this an NFL infinite loop???????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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1. The team that just scored kicks the ball off.
2. Its not a TD its a 1 point conversion IRCC.
3. Not plausible.
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You mean that if the intercepting team runs it back to the other endzone its 1 point?
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Yes on an extra point/two point conversion, any "TD" scored by the defensive team only counts as an extra point. Its the rare NFL one point play.
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so in some situations, it would be a good thing to let the other team intercept and run it back, because they get only 1 point, and you get the ball back in the insuing kickoff?
 
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Suppose a team is passing for a 2 point conversion, and the other team intercepts in the endzone, runs it back to the 50. Do they continue to posses the ball, or does the original team have to kick it off to them?

-or-

Suppose a team is passing for a 2 point conversion, and the other team intercepts in the endzone, and runs it back for a TD. Who kicks off to who?

-and-

if the team that intercepted the ball for a TD, goes for a 2 point conversion, has it intercepted in the endzone and run back the other way for another TD, who kicks off to who?

Is this an NFL infinite loop???????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Click to expand...


1. The team that just scored kicks the ball off.
2. Its not a TD its a 1 point conversion IRCC.
3. Not plausible.
Click to expand...


You mean that if the intercepting team runs it back to the other endzone its 1 point?
Click to expand...

Yes on an extra point/two point conversion, any "TD" scored by the defensive team only counts as an extra point. Its the rare NFL one point play.
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so in some situations, it would be a good thing to let the other team intercept and run it back, because they get only 1 point, and you get the ball back in the insuing kickoff?
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No. It's an extra point attempt, so the team which intercepted and ran the ball back would then also get the ball kicked to them.
 
The rules differ between college and NFL.

In NFL you either get 2 points or nothing at all. It absolutely irrelevant what the other team does. As soon as the ball is incomplete, or turned over the play is blown dead. Furthermore, if defense intercepts the ball it doesn't even count towards defenders stats. The team that was going for two point conversion kicks off.

In college you can intercept the ball on two point conversion and return it for TD. In that case, your team gets 2 point. The original team (the one that was going for conversion) still kicks off.
 
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Suppose a team is passing for a 2 point conversion, and the other team intercepts in the endzone, runs it back to the 50. Do they continue to posses the ball, or does the original team have to kick it off to them?

-or-

Suppose a team is passing for a 2 point conversion, and the other team intercepts in the endzone, and runs it back for a TD. Who kicks off to who?

-and-

if the team that intercepted the ball for a TD, goes for a 2 point conversion, has it intercepted in the endzone and run back the other way for another TD, who kicks off to who?

Is this an NFL infinite loop???????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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The rules differ depending on if you are looking at the NCAA rules or NFL Rules:

From Wikpedia:

"If the defensive team advances the ball the length of the field into the other end zone on the try, for example by an interception or a fumble recovery, it receives two points. This is officially recorded as a safety scored by the defense. The NCAA adopted this rule in 1990. This scenario cannot occur under NFL rules; in the NFL, the ball is dead and the extra-point attempt is over immediately when the defense gains possession. High school rules vary from state to state on this matter."

"The officials' signal for a successful try, whether an extra point or a two point conversion, is the same as for a touchdown. After the try, the offense kicks off to the opposing team."


 
Okay, according to the NFL rules, the ONLY way the defense can get any points in the TRY, is essentially impossible, but it would go like this:

The offensive team is attempting a 2 point conversion, hands it off to a running back, the running back goes the wrong way, all the way back
to the other end zone, where he is tackled by the defense. This is a safety, worth +1 point to the Defense!!!!

Wow, that would never happen!
 
For what it's worth, on a field goal attempt, one (or more) of the defensive players can catch the kick in the endzone and return it for a touchdown. Oddly, I've rarely seen this attempted. Scenario: 10 seconds left in the half, offense goes for a 55 yard field goal, someone on defense hangs out in the endzone. Kick comes up a couple yards short. Defensiveman runs it back to other way for a touchdown.

Nathan Vasher returned a Vedney field goal attempt 108 yards in week 10 this year. I saw a few links that stated it was a new NFL record...
If I'm not mistaken, Chris McAllister also returned one in 2002 for 108 yards. And, Darrell Green returned one a few years before that, although I don't know how deep in the end zone he was when he caught it. (That was a great one to watch... the offense was trotting off the field, no whistle had been blown, and Darrell Green ran the length of the field untouched.
 
The defence can not score at all on an extra point/2 point conversion.

Also to the guy who said they get one point? Where did you find that? The only amount of points not possible to get in the NFl is 1 point...
 
Originally posted by: Son of a N00b
The defence can not score at all on an extra point/2 point conversion.

Also to the guy who said they get one point? Where did you find that? The only amount of points not possible to get in the NFl is 1 point...
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Not true, look at my last post. It is very improbable, but possible.
 
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: Son of a N00b
The defence can not score at all on an extra point/2 point conversion.

Also to the guy who said they get one point? Where did you find that? The only amount of points not possible to get in the NFl is 1 point...
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Not true, look at my last post. It is very improbable, but possible.
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I don't think a safety scores a point for the opposing team on a two point conversion. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
Originally posted by: yosuke188
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: Son of a N00b
The defence can not score at all on an extra point/2 point conversion.

Also to the guy who said they get one point? Where did you find that? The only amount of points not possible to get in the NFl is 1 point...
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Not true, look at my last post. It is very improbable, but possible.
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I don't think a safety scores a point for the opposing team on a two point conversion. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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You're right. The defense cannot ever score at all ever on a 2 point attempt....never ever.

/thread
 
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: yosuke188
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: Son of a N00b
The defence can not score at all on an extra point/2 point conversion.

Also to the guy who said they get one point? Where did you find that? The only amount of points not possible to get in the NFl is 1 point...
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Not true, look at my last post. It is very improbable, but possible.
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I don't think a safety scores a point for the opposing team on a two point conversion. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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You're right. The defense cannot ever score at all ever on a 2 point attempt....never ever.

/thread
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Perhaps you didn't understand, it can:

You are right in saying the play is dead when the defense takes poss. of the ball. But think of it this way, if an offensive player runs in the wrong direction during an extra point attempt, and runs into the wrong endzone, then the defense has not taken poss. of the ball. Then if the defense downs him there, they still haven't taken poss., but guess what? They get the point! Get the point?

http://www.nfl.com/fans/rules/try
Try

1. After a touchdown, the scoring team is allowed a try during one scrimmage down. The ball may be spotted anywhere between the inbounds lines, two or more yards from the goal line. The successful conversion counts one point by kick; two points for a successful conversion by touchdown; or one point for a safety.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safety_%28football%29

The NFL also has a one-point safety rule on conversion attempts. However, a one-point safety would be almost impossible in the NFL, since the ball becomes dead immediately if the defense gains possession of it during a conversion attempt.

/thread.
 
No, the offense can score one point on a safety.

http://www.jaguars.com/Story/3853.asp

David from Jacksonville: Someone asked me about a scenario where a safety is worth one point. The NFL rulebook references this one-point safety for a try attempt: ?After a touchdown, the scoring team is allowed a try during one scrimmage down. The successful conversion counts one point by kick; two points for a successful conversion by touchdown; or one point for a safety.? It goes on to say the defensive team can never score on a try. If this is the case, how in the world does the offense score a one-point safety on a try attempt?

Vic: The offense is awarded a one-point safety on a try attempt if the following occurs: The offense's placement holder bobbles the snap from center and one of the defenders muffs, bats or kicks the ball out of the back of the end zone.

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