NFL fans: Explain this...

[NightRaven]

http://www.thehuddlereport.com/3yrvaluegrades.htm

Now, wouldnt having the best drafting value over the last three years equate to actually having good players, which the Lions do not? So, the Rams have the worst draft value, yet they have far superior talent? And no, not all of that talent was in place before this three year period was calculated.

The disclaimer claims that this isnt a measurement of how good the players are. Huh? How can a player have 'value', if he isnt 'good'? The Lions have drafted in the top 3 picks, two of the last three years. If they are getting value for such players selected here, I would think that this team should be kicking some serious ass.

Joey Harrington hasnt done much so far in his career. Charles Rogers, out for the year. Cash, Goodman, out for the year. Holt, Dirty Davis, and Corey Redding hardly ever play. The only players I can think of that have value are Boss Bailey and Dominic Raiola. Also, since the Lions are the 'oldest' team in the league, they obviously cant be playing a whole lot of guys taken over the last few years.

Whatchu think?

 

[Digobick]

Link

 

[bunker]

Drafting is not the only component of a team. You have trades, free agency, etc...

 

[NightRaven]

Originally posted by: bunker
Drafting is not the only component of a team. You have trades, free agency, etc...

Trades are almost nonexistant in the NFL... Although you have a point with FA's...

 

[Argo]

Giants are towards the bottom. What a surprise <We really need a sarcasm smiley>

 

[edmicman]

harrington is only in his 2nd year and is always gaining more experience. this is their first year with mooch as coach, too. rogers got some good experience early on, but then got injured. injuries across the board have hampered the lions all year. the lions have gotten great draft picks and have great, but young, talent. it just needs to be developed. look for a healthy lions squad to surprise the league next year. harrington will have even more experience, rogers will be back (after hopefully working his a$$ off in the off-season), everyone will be healthy, etc. they should do well, and then we'll see them in the superbowl in '05!

 

[TheAudit]

The disclaimer says that draft value doesn't equate to how good a player will be. So the Lions got the best players available at their pick to fill their needs but that doesn't mean the players picked will end up being good NFL players.

Anyway

The Giants shouldn't be allowed to make 1st round draft picks, they usually turn out to be busts. They did pick up Shockey (4 TDs in two years) and he's been their best pick by far recently.

 

[TC2181]

Here is an example of poor drafing. 95-2000 San Diego Chargers...

1995 DRAFT:
Round 1 - NO PICK
Round 2 - Terrance Shaw (DB) W/
Round 2 - Terrell Fletcher (RB) Out of League
Round 2 - Jimmy Oliver (WR) Out of League
Round 3 - Don Sasa (DT) Out of League
Round 3 - Preston Hamilton (LB) Out of League
Round 4 - Chris Cowart (LB) Out of League
Round 4 - Aaron Hayden (RB) Out of League
Round 5 - Omar Ellison (WR) Out of League
Round 6 - Troy Sienkiewicz (OL) Out of League
Round 6 - Brandon Harrison (WR) Out of League
Round 6 - Craig Whelihan (QB) Out of League
Round 6 - Tony Berti (OL) Out of League
Round 7 - Mark Montreuil (DB) Out of League

1996 DRAFT:
Round 1 - No PICK
Round 2 - Brian Still (WR) Out of League
Round 2 - Patrick Sapp (LB) Out of League
Round 3 - Brian Roche (TE) Out of League
Round 4 - Charlie Jones (WR) Out of League
Round 5 - Junior Soli (DT) Out of League
Round 6 - Jim Mills (OT) Out of League
Round 7 - Freddie Bradley (RB) Out of League

1997 DRAFT:
Round 1 - NO PICK (Traded for Brian Still)
Round 2 - Freddie Jones (TE) W/Cardinals
Round 3 - Michael Hamilton (LB) Out of League
Round 4 - Raleigh Roundtree (OL) W/Texans
Round 5 - Paul Bradford (DB) Out of League
Round 6 - Daniel Palmer (OL) Out of League
Round 7 - Cedric White (DL) Out of League
Round 7 - Tony Corbin (QB) Out of League

1998 Draft:
Round 1 - Cryin Leaf (QB) Worst Pick of all time
Round 2 - Mikhael Ricks (WR) W/Lions
Round 3 - NO PICK
Round 4 - NO PICK
Round 5 - Cedric Harden (DE) Out of League
Round 6 - Cliff Ivory (DB) Out of League
Round 7 - John Haskins (LB) Out of League
Round 7 - Kio Sanford (WR) Out of League

1999 DRAFT:
Round 1 - NO PICK (Leaf Trade)
Round 2 - Jermaine Fazande (RB) Out of League
Round 3 - Steve Heiden (TE) W/Browns
Round 4 - Jason Perry (S) Out of League
Round 5 - Adrian Dingle (DE) First good Pick in 5 yrs
Round 5 - Reggie Nelson (OG) Out of League
Round 6 - Tyrone Bell (DB) Out of League
Round 7 - NO PICK

2000 DRAFT:
Round 1 - NO PICK (Ricks Trade)
Round 2 - Rogers Beckett (S) W/Bengals
Round 3 - Damion McIntosh (LT) inconsistent LT
Round 4 - Trevor Gaylor (WR) W/Falcons
Round 4 - Leonardo Carson (DT) In legal trouble
Round 5 - NO PICK
Round 6 - Shannon Taylor (LB) Out of League
Round 6 - JaJuan Seider (QB) Out of League
Round 6 - Damen Wheeler (DB) Out of League
Round 7 - Jason Thomas (OL) W/Ravens

The whole Drew Brees /LT thing for Vick is still up in the air...

 

[TheAudit]

Originally posted by: TC2181
Here is an example of poor drafing. 95-2000 San Diego Chargers...

The whole Drew Brees /LT thing for Vick is still up in the air...

You're right, Ryan Leaf was terrible!!
I had heard that they would draft Manning if they get the first pick next year.

 

[TC2181]

Originally posted by: TheAudit

Originally posted by: TC2181
Here is an example of poor drafing. 95-2000 San Diego Chargers...

The whole Drew Brees /LT thing for Vick is still up in the air...

You're right, Ryan Leaf was terrible!!
I had heard that they would draft Manning if they get the first pick next year.

I doubt they will get the first pick, and even then...i'd doubt they would go for Manning. They aren't that dumb. Brees has shown he can be a good QB, but the entire team has issues. Weak defense, inconsistent OL. I expect the Chargers to be a decent team next year. Marty won't let a team go to sh!t.