Nexus 7 vs kindle fire HD

[shortylickens]

I had a Fire and didnt notice that.

 

[destrekor]

Umm... that's completely wrong.

The OMAP 4430 has a PowerVR SGX 540 @ 304Mhz.
The OMAP 4460 has a PowerVR SGX 540 @ 384Mhz.
The OMAP 4470 has a PowerVR SGX 544MP1 @ 384Mhz.

Source: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4413/...pecs-powervr-sgx544-18-ghz-dual-core-cortexa9
Performance review of the OMAP4470: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6158/the-archos-101-xs-review/3

I got tripped up in this too, but it's important to remember that clock speeds matter. This example has taught me not to make any remarks until we see the benchmarks. The 544 in the OMAP4470 is competitive with the 543MP2 in the iPad 2/3 because it's very likely the latter is running at a clock speed of 200-250Mhz. It also very clearly bests the Tegra 3 in GPU performance.

Also, no A15s until 2013. Maybe we'll see phones with the chip shown off at CES, but neither TI or Samsung seem ready to launch any time soon.

Apparently the source I read for the Fire HD SOCs was completely off base.
My apologies, but I'll see if I can dig up any further specs of the two models.


As for Cortex A15 - notice I did not say TI or Samsung-sourced stock ARM Cortex A15 SOCs. I said Qualcomm, and their S4 SOC. Qualcomm doesn't manufacture the stock ARM designs, they license the architecture and make their own. The S4 is essentially Cortex A15, with some minor differences.


For the OMAP 4xxx series points, I did think that was slightly off but didn't think anything of it. My Galaxy Nexus has the 4460 but I was fairly certain it only contains the SGX540 GPU.

 

[Brunnis]

Umm, why not just use the cell phone?

So, you're saying you actually leave for trips where you need navigation and don't bring your cell phone? I always have my phone with me when I leave home and I suspect most people do.

 

[destrekor]

So, you're saying you actually leave for trips where you need navigation and don't bring your cell phone? I always have my phone with me when I leave home and I suspect most people do.

No, I believe he is saying: on trips, use the cell phone.


IMHO: Aside from the additional screen size, it's fairly counter-intuitive to tether cellular data from the cell phone, to utilize internet-connected navigation on a tablet. When you can, quite simply, just do it all on the phone itself.


I personally agree with this basic premise.
Unless I go about creating a fancy rig for the tablet in the vehicle, that makes it seem like OEM navigation/touch-based control (with or without physically installing it in the console - as has been demonstrated with the Nexus 7, though I don't care to look up the reference for this at the moment), I'd rather just let the phone handle all such tasks.
Aside from screen size difference, if both phone and tablet are Android, there is no other difference that makes it worthwhile.

Of course, if you want to truly utilize Google Now, and have not flashed JB/4.1 onto the phone, then I guess there is something to gain from letting the Nexus 7 or other tablet with JB run the navigational duties.

But having two devices connected for charging to do the duty that one can feasibly do with no limitations, I don't see the point.
Then again, in my case, that would likely mean 3 devices connected for charging - I still rely on my ZuneHD for audio. 1) there are pockets where data connection is dead, so Spotify or its ilk are worthless if streaming, and 2) Microsoft has yet to open up Zune Pass to non-Microsoft devices and I :wub: Zune Pass.

I'd kill to have Zune Pass, or whatever it'll be called in the future [as Zune is becoming Xbox Music] available on Android. I can easily sync with my MotoACTV, and could use my Galaxy Nexus as my audio source in my vehicle.

 

[Brunnis]

No, I believe he is saying: on trips, use the cell phone.

He said:

GPS is somewhat useless without cellular anyway, unless theres a bunch of new offline maps I'm not familiar with.

Which implies that he thinks GPS is useless in a tablet without cellular, since he won't be able to use the positioning on the go anyway. I pointed out that you could just tether the tablet to your phone, on which he replied that then he could just use the phone then instead.

So, what he's implying is that if the tablet would have GPS and cellular, he'd be able to leave his phone at home. I guess that's okay if you don't have a phone to make phone calls, otherwise you'd probably want to have your phone with you when leaving home anyway. Which makes the whole argument that GPS is useless in a tablet without cellular somewhat moot.

But yeah, I'd probably leave the tablet at home as well, unless I wanted to mount the tablet in the car for easier navigation while driving. Otherwise, the phone does the job just as well.

 

[skyking]

has anybody used a 3g/4g USB card in one of these? are the USB radios all stuck with a windows app to work?

 

[AnMig]

I was actually in a situation where I had to drive 2 1/2 hours to see a dental surgeon last week and I madea mistake of bringing my non primary car without my car charger for my galaxy nexus phone. Needed to use GPS and no way my gnex was going last the whole trip and back.

I also had my nexus 7 with me with 70% battery. Decided to tether my nexus 7 to load Google maps expanded the maps all the way to my destination then turned off the tether. I expected the nexus 7 navigation to crap out since there was no longer a data connection and I heard maps only preload 5 miles of map data. However even without data connection the nexus 7 kept on giving accurate turn by turn directions all the way to my destination ( 140 miles).

The nexus 7 also continued to give turn by turn directions even when the screen was off, I have a cover that turns the screen off when I close it.

Really happy with my nexus 7 rooted and roles of course.

7 inch form factor for me is the ideal size, very portable.

Peace.

 

[sep]

Well I didn't return my Nexus 7 and I didn't get the KF HD. I'm going to keep the N7 for now and look in to the KF HD 9inch once it's been out and reviewed by others.

So far I love the N7, just don't understand or like the lack of Flash out the gate!!!

 

[OBLAMA2009]

So I was reading about the new kinle fire HD and my mouth was drooling over the price and hardware (16 GB ram HDMI out stereo with Dolby digital etc.). My only concern is am I limited to amazon and no Google play?

I really like the response time on my nexus 7 but with these options I think I will return my n7 if I can still run my android apps

Do you know if android apps can run on kindle fire HD?

What hardware is the kd fire HD?

i tired the new kindle at bb yesterday and the response was sort of delayed and jerky. the wifi seemed to be unstable as well, your try to open something in a tab and it would never come up. id be careful about buying a kindle until its been checked out by other people