Nexus 4 Pro?

[lopri]

Woops, Optimus G Pro..

A slide has leaked that shows the LG Optimus G Pro smartphone, the follow-up to the Optimus G. The Optimus G Pro’s headliner feature is a new five-inch display with a resolution of 1920 x 1080.

A 1.7 GHz processor said to be the Snapdragon S4 Pro APQ8064 powers the device. The smartphone is also said to feature 2 GB of RAM, 32 GB of storage, LTE connectivity, 13MP rear camera, and a 3000 mAh battery. Other specifications that have leaked around the web claim that the smartphone will run Android Jelly Bean for the operating system and weigh in at about 160 g.

The phone features both One-Seg and NOTTV functionality that only works in Japan. We’ll no doubt see the Optimus G Pro on our shores sometimes this year, although without the TV functionality.

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=29689

 

[lopri]

Obvious highlights seem to be:

- 1080p (up from 720p)
- 1.7 GHz Snapdragon S4 Pro (up from 1.5 GHz)
- 3000 mAh battery

$300 & unlocked? Google? Make it work.

 

[thecapsaicinkid]

That really isn't what the Nexus line is about. It definitely wouldn't have LTE.

 

[WelshBloke]

Obvious highlights seem to be:

- 1080p (up from 720p)
- 1.7 GHz Snapdragon S4 Pro (up from 1.5 GHz)
- 3000 mAh battery

$300 & unlocked? Google? Make it work.

Am I missing something? Its not a Nexus phone is it so what has it got to do with Google (apart from running Android).

That said it looks like a very nice phone (apart from lack of SDcard :sneaky: )

 

[lopri]

Well, it's not a google phone, yes. It's an Optimus G's successor, it seems.

The last line was my wishiful thinking.

 

[WelshBloke]

Well, it's not a google phone, yes. It's an Optimus G's successor, it seems.

The last line was my wishiful thinking.

Ah fair enough.

What's LGs version of Android like? How quick do they release updates on their own (non carrier sold) phones?

 

[grkM3]

That really isn't what the Nexus line is about. It definitely wouldn't have LTE.

Why not?

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Why not?

Same reason the Nexus 4 doesn't have LTE.

LTE screws with the entire "seperated from carrier" aspect with the phone and forces Google to go through red tape and a approval process with LTE carriers.

 

[Austin8868]

thats more powerful than normal peoples computers

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Same reason the Nexus 4 doesn't have LTE.

LTE screws with the entire "seperated from carrier" aspect with the phone and forces Google to go through red tape and a approval process with LTE carriers.

No it does not. That's just googles excuse and what people keep believing. They can easily release an unlocked phone with LTE if they wanted to...

 

[thecapsaicinkid]

No it does not. That's just googles excuse and what people keep believing. They can easily release an unlocked phone with LTE if they wanted to...

Just one that works on all carriers? Are you sure about that?

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Just one that works on all carriers? Are you sure about that?

It's not even that issue.

What he doesn't understand is that Google is committed to separating the Nexus 4 from carriers as much as possible.

Under LTE specifications from carriers, every single hardware choice, every single radio, every single update has to ALL be approved by the LTE carrier. It prevents google from releasing timely updates quickly and carriers get in the way of promotion. This is exactly what happened with the Gnex in verizon. It got updates months down the line because of LTE carriers messing with them.

But of course, he's smarter and more knowledgeable about the LTE carrier licensing process than Google and knows more about their product development that even Google knows. How about that.

 

[amdhunter]

With the talk of the Nexus 4 already being phased out - I wouldn't be surprised if there was indeed a Nexus version of this at Mobile World Congress next month.

 

[Red Storm]

Shame this is going to be paired with LG software.

 

[thecapsaicinkid]

With the talk of the Nexus 4 already being phased out - I wouldn't be surprised if there was indeed a Nexus version of this at Mobile World Congress next month.

So just to be clear. You're saying Google and LG developed a Nexus 5 almost in tandem with the 4. Release the 4 and before hardly any consumers get their hands on it, phase it out and release the new Nexus 5?

 

[ImDonly1]

Same reason the Nexus 4 doesn't have LTE.

LTE screws with the entire "seperated from carrier" aspect with the phone and forces Google to go through red tape and a approval process with LTE carriers.

Except the Nexus 4 does have LTE, it was just hidden.
I believe it was hidden because the Nexus 4 was launched on T-mobile this time around. T-mobile asked it to be disabled until their LTE network is done.

Doubt they will launch another Nexus phone this soon, but sure would like it.

 

[lopri]

Ah fair enough.

What's LGs version of Android like? How quick do they release updates on their own (non carrier sold) phones?

I think the question is better directed towards carriers. When I went to a BestBuy some weeks ago they had Optimus Gs from Verizon and AT&T displayed next to each other, giving me a chance to play with both.

I could be biased here because I have been using AT&T for years with grave dissatisfaction, but the Verizon version felt smoother and snappier. The difference in appearance (skins/themes) would be appreciated subjectively.

No idea how quickly LG or each carrier deliver updates.

 

[zerocool84]

With the talk of the Nexus 4 already being phased out - I wouldn't be surprised if there was indeed a Nexus version of this at Mobile World Congress next month.

Except the Nexus 4 does have LTE, it was just hidden.
I believe it was hidden because the Nexus 4 was launched on T-mobile this time around. T-mobile asked it to be disabled until their LTE network is done.

Doubt they will launch another Nexus phone this soon, but sure would like it.

Lol no there is no Nexus phone launching soon, no they didn't disable LTE because Tmobile asked them to.

 

[Bateluer]

Lol no there is no Nexus phone launching soon,

Well, that actually could happen. We have Nexii from Asus, Samsung and LG currently shipping. Who's to say the Google Owned Motorola wouldn't introduce a Nexus model? And HTC's still on the bench, they could use the positive press. Actually getting product into customer hands would one up LG.

no they didn't disable LTE because Tmobile asked them to.

Truth, the N4 has an LTE modem because its based off the Optimus G. However, it lacks everything else that goes with it to make it work. Unless you're the Canadian carrier where it sort of works, you're out of luck. And screwing with your phone's modem is a dangerous thing.

 

[Bman123]

Truth, the N4 has an LTE modem because its based off the Optimus G. However, it lacks everything else that goes with it to make it work. Unless you're the Canadian carrier where it sort of works, you're out of luck. And screwing with your phone's modem is a dangerous thing.[/QUOTE]

Its not dangerous if you pay attention and read about what your doing first.

 

[zerogear]

For N4 to be a true world phone on LTE bands, you may need a backpack

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

It's not even that issue.

What he doesn't understand is that Google is committed to separating the Nexus 4 from carriers as much as possible.

Under LTE specifications from carriers, every single hardware choice, every single radio, every single update has to ALL be approved by the LTE carrier. It prevents google from releasing timely updates quickly and carriers get in the way of promotion. This is exactly what happened with the Gnex in verizon. It got updates months down the line because of LTE carriers messing with them.

But of course, he's smarter and more knowledgeable about the LTE carrier licensing process than Google and knows more about their product development that even Google knows. How about that.

I never said 1 phone will cover the world. What you said is only valid IF the phone is released under the carrier like the Verizon Galaxy Nexus.

There's nothing stopping Google from physically releasing a phone with LTE compatible bands for AT&T. Everytime people say that LTE phone means carrier approval blah blah blah, what about AT&T 3G compatible phone? Or AWS compatible 3G? Does AT&T and T-Mobile need to sign off on the Nexus 4's 3G bands? What about every other international unlocked phone?

Look, if you want to drink the Google kool aid and believe every excuse they throw on the table, go ahead. But you're of the same camp that will bash Apple at every excuse they make (you're holding it wrong, other phones have attenuation, etc.).

The real reason why Google's not putting LTE in the Nexus 4 is probably this:

a) US is the main LTE customer, the rest of the world lacks it.

b) The US has a very small population who uses unlocked phones. Given that AT&T is the only GSM network with LTE, an unlocked LTE Nexus 4 would mainly benefit AT&T. Once again very few people benefit, so it's ok leaving AT&T bands out.

c) The rest of the world is behind in LTE deployment, so adding 2600mhz LTE would benefit a small populatoin.

d) Android already has a horrible reputation for battery life. Even the first generation Windows Phone LTE devices had no problem lasting 2 days. But given Android's need for more battery capacity, LTE would only make Android look worse.

 

[dagamer34]

I never said 1 phone will cover the world. What you said is only valid IF the phone is released under the carrier like the Verizon Galaxy Nexus.

There's nothing stopping Google from physically releasing a phone with LTE compatible bands for AT&T. Everytime people say that LTE phone means carrier approval blah blah blah, what about AT&T 3G compatible phone? Or AWS compatible 3G? Does AT&T and T-Mobile need to sign off on the Nexus 4's 3G bands? What about every other international unlocked phone?

Look, if you want to drink the Google kool aid and believe every excuse they throw on the table, go ahead. But you're of the same camp that will bash Apple at every excuse they make (you're holding it wrong, other phones have attenuation, etc.).

The real reason why Google's not putting LTE in the Nexus 4 is probably this:

a) US is the main LTE customer, the rest of the world lacks it.

b) The US has a very small population who uses unlocked phones. Given that AT&T is the only GSM network with LTE, an unlocked LTE Nexus 4 would mainly benefit AT&T. Once again very few people benefit, so it's ok leaving AT&T bands out.

c) The rest of the world is behind in LTE deployment, so adding 2600mhz LTE would benefit a small populatoin.

d) Android already has a horrible reputation for battery life. Even the first generation Windows Phone LTE devices had no problem lasting 2 days. But given Android's need for more battery capacity, LTE would only make Android look worse.

We should be clear here, the Nexus 4 has LTE specifically designed for T-Mobile and Canadian carriers. There is a HUGE difference between that and not having LTE at all. And I find it hard to believe that LG or Google could casually make a phone that just happens to support LTE and not enable it.

 

[ImDonly1]

Why is that so hard to understand? T-mobile's LTE network is not ready so they left it disabled then enable it later.

See the link below, the Note 2 also has LTE and is disabled until the network is ready
http://www.phonearena.com/news/T-Mo...receive-update-to-turn-on-LTE-support_id38486

Coincidence that the Nexus 4 supports T-mobile LTE bands and launched on T-mobile only?

Well, that actually could happen. We have Nexii from Asus, Samsung and LG currently shipping. Who's to say the Google Owned Motorola wouldn't introduce a Nexus model? And HTC's still on the bench, they could use the positive press. Actually getting product into customer hands would one up LG.

Truth, the N4 has an LTE modem because its based off the Optimus G. However, it lacks everything else that goes with it to make it work. Unless you're the Canadian carrier where it sort of works, you're out of luck. And screwing with your phone's modem is a dangerous thing.

Lacking everything else? Explain.
Typing in *#*#4636#*#* and picking LTE in the menu is hardly messing with the modem or anything difficult/risky.

If it was based on the Optimus G, and they just happened to disable it then it would have ATT LTE bands not t-mobile LTE bands.