NEXUS 10 anyone?

[jrob6519]

what is the overall take on the google 10in tablet? worth it or not?

 

[Red Storm]

If you like 10" tablets and Android, yes.

 

[bearxor]

If you like 10" tablets and Android, yes.

w3rd

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

I think it's Google's best foot forward so far. My complaints are:

- Lack of 10" tablet apps
- High res is certainly an issue without a fully hardware accelerated UI. You can blame apps or whatever, but just when you thought we had enough horsepower with A15 chips to make the UI smooth, the resolution bump brings things back to choppy land.

 

[lopri]

I would say yes, too, for the hardware and the OS. You just need to decide whether you can do something with it or not.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

I think it's Google's best foot forward so far. My complaints are:

- Lack of 10" tablet apps
- High res is certainly an issue without a fully hardware accelerated UI. You can blame apps or whatever, but just when you thought we had enough horsepower with A15 chips to make the UI smooth, the resolution bump brings things back to choppy land.

I love how you keep saying bullshit like this and never actually back your arguments up.

I know of at least 3 different times at which you've said that JB doesn't have a hardware accelerated UI and every time you get called out on it, you shut up.

 

[Midwayman]

If you're looking for a high end android tablet, its the one to get. My beef with it is no microSD and apple like pricing for memory expansion. Though I think I'd wait to see what the next round of tablets look like this spring unless you're dying to get something. There should be a crop of 1080p or better a15 based tablets coming out very soon. Right now the nexus 10 is the leading edge of a generation change.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

I love how you keep saying bullshit like this and never actually back your arguments up.

I know of at least 3 different times at which you've said that JB doesn't have a hardware accelerated UI and every time you get called out on it, you shut up.

K. You keep saying that because you keep using a strawman argument. I never said that Android is completely NOT hardware accelerated. Certain elements are. It's not fully hardware accelerated. We know this already. The launcher animation from one page to the next for example is not.

In fact I responded to your idiotic post a day or two later explaining exactly what I meant and YOU shut up. If anything you're the one unable to respond to any technical argument with nothing but namecalling. What substance have YOU added to any discussion here except for flaming and fanboism? Oh right. None. Even the guy who talks about his 6 hours screen life with his 2700mah battery is doing a better job than you. And we all know who that is.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

K. You keep saying that because you keep using a strawman argument. I never said that Android is completely NOT hardware accelerated. Certain elements are. It's not fully hardware accelerated. We know this already. The launcher animation from one page to the next for example is not.

In fact I responded to your idiotic post a day or two later explaining exactly what I meant and YOU shut up. If anything you're the one unable to respond to any technical argument with nothing but namecalling. What substance have YOU added to any discussion here except for flaming and fanboism? Oh right. None. Even the guy who talks about his 6 hours screen life with his 2700mah battery is doing a better job than you. And we all know who that is.

I have no idea what the hell you're talking about. My god, a year later and you're still talking bullshit. So stop trolling and get your damn facts right before you keep posting in every topic the same bullshit over and over. I would love to see your source about the launcher draws not being HWA. I'm going to go ahead an assume you're talking about the fact that the Tegra 2 would run out of memory bus and so wasn't able to push enough pixels for 60 fps launcher draws in that Dianne Hackborne post a while back.

However, for some reason you seem this think this means that the launcher isn't HWA, even though it IS. They just don't brute force by just giving each element 100% of its memory allocation and in fact take tricks that allow them to get the exact same effect for cheaper.
Does this mean its not HWA? No, but you seem for sure to think it does.

The only parts of the UI that aren't accelerated is static status bars and etc, because things that don't move much don't need their own entire memory buffer so they just get shoved over to the CPU that can easily handle it while the GPU gets tasked with intensive stuff.
This was in Android 3.0 for gods sakes.

I love how you try to get out of this argument by claiming strawman and such, even though 1) the argument is fully relevant considering your previous statements, 2) you have never ever provided any evidence for your claims such as what elements aren't drawn in hardware, if not being drawn in hardware actually causes perceptible slow down, 3) if just maybe the hardware itself isn't actually fast enough to run a fully buffered UI.

Now in Android 4.1, all they changed was adding triple buffering, VSYNC, and a faster on-demand CPU ramp up. All of these are GOOD programming practices and should have been included earlier, but of course, there were hardware limitations that were less of an issue by the time 4.1 came out. But of course, I remember a post by you which somehow claimed that these were some sort of brute force practices, that aren't as good as normal HWA, which is of course bullshit. Triple buffering and such are extremely common practices in the Com Sci world because it is incredibly effective, given you have the hardware to use it.

So please, actually source some of the more retarded arguments you are making instead of calling people who call you on your bullshit trolls. Every time you get called out, either you shut up, or proceed with a reply stating some stupid technicality that gets you out of the call out, then proceeds to completely not back up your argument, then call them a fanboy. It happens every time, and I'm sick of it.

 

[Riceninja]

no microsd means no deal for me.

really hoping the xperia z tablet is released in north america

 

[s44]

Great screen + CPU, probably not worth it over the Infinity.

Next-gen will have much better SOC, faster/more RAM, and very likely some sort of windowing... I want the Asus TF version with keydock and SD though.

 

[Ravynmagi]

I guess I might be weird. But I just can't stand the new unified UI between phones and tablets with Android 4.2. I don't think it's a good idea from Google to use the same UI on a 4 inch phone as they use on a 10 inch tablet.

I hate the waste of screen space the Nexus 10 with Android 4.2 has. I hate I can't toggle the soft keys on and off.

I can tolerate this somewhat on a 7 inch screen, but not a 10 inch screen. So I'm hoping Google improves this quickly in Key Lime Pie.