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Next Xbox console to be six times more powerful, headed for fall 2013 release?

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ManBearPig

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http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/24/next-xbox-console-to-be-six-times-more-powerful-headed-for-fall/

Xbox 720, Xbox Loop -- whatever Microsoft ends up calling it, that hot rod of a console looks to be on deck for a late fall 2013 release. According to IGN's sources, this successor to the Redmond gaming throne is purported to pack a GPU based on AMD's 6000 series of chips and will boast silicon circuitry that catapults its performance past Nintendo's upcoming Wii U by 20 percent. If you're looking for a more apples to green X's comparison, this next-gen console's graphical capabilities are also reportedly six times greater than its 360 progenitor. While MS is likely holding back its monstrous new platform for a big E3 reveal, it appears the company's still whittling down its spec list, with dev kits to be issued later this August. No mention was made of its rumored Kinect 2 integration, but we're more than certain that famous hacking tech will be front and center.
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*yawn*

Someone smuggle a tech demo of this thing. Six times more powerful? What does that equate to? In what way? Does this mean MW3 (which plays at 60FPS) will run at 360FPS?
 
In a lot of the articles around the web they say that the next Xbox will be more powerful than the WiiU, but rumors say that the WiiU will use something close in power to a HD 4850/70. A HD 6670 would still be slower but have the advantage of having a better tessellation unit.
 
Atty said:
*yawn*

Someone smuggle a tech demo of this thing. Six times more powerful? What does that equate to? In what way? Does this mean MW3 (which plays at 60FPS) will run at 360FPS?
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I think it means that it might actually be able to run at minimum 720p which current consoles have a hard time with.
 
Atty said:
*yawn*

Someone smuggle a tech demo of this thing. Six times more powerful? What does that equate to? In what way? Does this mean MW3 (which plays at 60FPS) will run at 360FPS?
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If they're talking raw processing power, it equates to a minor image quality boost, far smaller than you'd expect from 8 years of innovation.

If they're talking about some ephemeral measurement of how awesome the graphics are, 6 times more awesome is off the charts, yo.
 
A 6670? Seriously?

"Let's see, how can we make this thing obsolete before we have even one dev unit produced?"
 
Stuxnet said:
A 6670? Seriously?

"Let's see, how can we make this thing obsolete before we have even one dev unit produced?"
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Gotta understand where console technology comes from. These design specs were probably finalized about 3 or 4 years ago, meaning the 6670 was better technology than was even available to the market at the time.

Also keep in mind that consoles have to fit into tighter power and thermal profiles than desktop PC's that can devote huge amounts of space to exotic cooling solutions can.
 
Sounds like a bunch of nonsense. An HD6670 is three times faster than the 360 GPU and not six. If it were six times faster then it wouldn't be a 6670 but something else entirely.

Somebody pulled this out of his ass in my opinion.
 
SunnyD said:
Gotta understand where console technology comes from. These design specs were probably finalized about 3 or 4 years ago, meaning the 6670 was better technology than was even available to the market at the time.

Also keep in mind that consoles have to fit into tighter power and thermal profiles than desktop PC's that can devote huge amounts of space to exotic cooling solutions can.
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The Xbox 360 was on par or ahead of its time in terms of features the day it was released. Your average gpu didn't have unified shaders, and your average CPU wasn't triple core SMT in 2005.

Its not like they're buying cards off the shelf. They're working with ati (assumedly). The lead time should be similar to anything else ati makes.
 
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SunnyD said:
Gotta understand where console technology comes from. These design specs were probably finalized about 3 or 4 years ago, meaning the 6670 was better technology than was even available to the market at the time.

Also keep in mind that consoles have to fit into tighter power and thermal profiles than desktop PC's that can devote huge amounts of space to exotic cooling solutions can.
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No.
 
Oh ffs people, this is just engadget saying what was posted in the other nextbox thread from IGN. Do we really need 2 threads for the almost exact same thing?

Edit: SunnyD, no the specs werent even close to finalized until last year, when IBM lost (or declined if you want) the contract for cpu.
 
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I just wish they get the message that it isn't Johnny Boy that is getting the Box for his 12th birthday.

For some reason these guys still seem to think that everyone wants a console that they pay $600 for (yes you Sony) to either look "funky cool" or somewhat like a George Foreman Grill.

If they come out with a new Box next year, I hope to GOD they have the sense to make it fit into a HTPC/Home Theater stack.

Customizability would also be nice (you know, like being able to put in a STANDARD F'n HARD DRIVE!!!!), but I am praying to god, not becoming one.
 
Ninjahedge said:
I just wish they get the message that it isn't Johnny Boy that is getting the Box for his 12th birthday.

For some reason these guys still seem to think that everyone wants a console that they pay $600 for (yes you Sony) to either look "funky cool" or somewhat like a George Foreman Grill.

If they come out with a new Box next year, I hope to GOD they have the sense to make it fit into a HTPC/Home Theater stack.

Customizability would also be nice (you know, like being able to put in a STANDARD F'n HARD DRIVE!!!!), but I am praying to god, not becoming one.
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Why not SSDs? 😛
 
BD2003 said:
The Xbox 360 was on par or ahead of its time in terms of features the day it was released. Your average gpu didn't have unified shaders, and your average CPU wasn't triple core SMT in 2005.

Its not like they're buying cards off the shelf. They're working with ati (assumedly). The lead time should be similar to anything else ati makes.
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Thank you. At least somebody knows what they're talking about.

Stuxnet said:
No.
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:colbert: Stick your head in the sand, plug your ears and scream, "LA LA LA I'M NOT LISTENING!!!" Still doesn't mean you have a clue.

Soccerman06 said:
Oh ffs people, this is just engadget saying what was posted in the other nextbox thread from IGN. Do we really need 2 threads for the almost exact same thing?

Edit: SunnyD, no the specs werent even close to finalized until last year, when IBM lost (or declined if you want) the contract for cpu.
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So you're going to go by what some industry rag shovels you versus the typical design cycle of most console hardware for the past ~25 years? Okay.

The design specs of the hardware - as in what the hardware needs to do/support was likely finalized 3 to 4 years ago. The next phase is to find hardware manufacturers that will design chips around your specs, and then actually contract out to do that. The latter is what you're referring to - the final physical hardware spec wasn't even close to final as of last year.

It's just the same thing as the GPU technology that is going into this thing from ATI was on the drawing board 3+ years ago. If you people think hardware vendors just pull these things out of their asses, well... thanks for that laugh.
 
SunnyD said:
:colbert: Stick your head in the sand, plug your ears and scream, "LA LA LA I'M NOT LISTENING!!!" Still doesn't mean you have a clue.
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LOL someone's a little defensive... Here's my take:

"YOU WONT TAKE A STRANGER'S WORD FOR A RANDOM STATEMENT ON THE INTARWEBS?! YOU !@#$!@#$!@#$!# @#$%@#$ QQ QQ QQ"

Now that you've wiped the tears, hear this: LINK?

It's on you to substantiate such a claim, not on the rest of us to swallow it no questions asked. The fact that the claim is rather absurd only makes the pill bigger.
 
First off I would put money that is going to be called the 'Xbox Revolution(s)' (I don't know if they will make it plural or not, a plural name might get vetoed by marketing as to confusing to advertise)

Next, yes the general idea of what they wanted was planned out years ago. They knew that they wanted in all games as a 720p minimum, and if possible 1080p. That is the main constraint on the system that bound them to the minimum GPU and CPU. I doubt it was until last year that they made the rest of the decisions, like memory and storage.

As for me, I'm hoping for a two stage storage, a 60gig (upgradable) SSD for game data and a huge (upgradable) spinning drive for all the media stuff this system will do. It obviously needs to have Blu-Ray and wifi, and be able to play everything in 1080p. Oh, and it needs to not die from heat in average use conditions.
Give me these things, and I'll happly by yet another Xbox.
 
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