Rare video catches Israeli Soldiers shooting at people who were part of a peace rally - Aug. 2006.
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/9793/bilin.wmv
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/9793/bilin.wmv
News you CANNOT see in the USA - Palestine Video!
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A sad video - I feel bad for both the unarmed palestinians being shot in cold blood, and the hate-filled Israeli soldiers that carried out the act. They both suffer because of the choices made by our leaders to support Israel.
If you don't see both tragedy and pathos, as well as hatred and random acts of kindness on both sides, you're only looking at a small part of a very large, complex picture.
cruzer
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Anyone with military experience will tell you those were not real bullets. They were firing blank cartidges(you could tell because they had to manually eject the spent case between single shots - a blank doesn't have the power to chamber a new round).
They had some kind of barrel extension to allow hand loading of some kind of rubber ball or other riot control round that was powered by the gas of the blank in the chamber. At close range they obviously break the skin and cause bleeding, but so will a CO2 pellet rifle.
A buddy of mine was shot by rubber pellets from a 12 gauge riot control shotgun shell and said it hurt like hell and he limped for a few days.
They had some kind of barrel extension to allow hand loading of some kind of rubber ball or other riot control round that was powered by the gas of the blank in the chamber. At close range they obviously break the skin and cause bleeding, but so will a CO2 pellet rifle.
A buddy of mine was shot by rubber pellets from a 12 gauge riot control shotgun shell and said it hurt like hell and he limped for a few days.
Most rubber bullets are actually metal on the inside. I've seen many documentaries on this subject. So-called "none-lethal" riot control rifle rounds can often cause serious injury and death.
Case in point...
Red Sox Fan Killed by Policeman's 'Non-Lethal' Weapon
Case in point...
Red Sox Fan Killed by Policeman's 'Non-Lethal' Weapon
ProfJohn
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Ok... so the guy gets shot by a M-16, or somethng like that. They show him falling to the ground. Camera gets close to the guy, but you see no blood, then the camera man turns away. Some time later they come back to the guy, there is blood on his shirt, but no bullet hole anywhere to be seen. So where did he get shoot?
One more point... type "bilin" where the video was shot into google... not one news story about the shooting from a legit news source.
There some stories about someone getting hurt in the head, so maybe the guy was hit in the head with a rubber bullet.
With all the fake stories going around in that part of the world it is hard to tell fact from fiction.
funny how the crowd didn't seem too scared when the soldiers started firing at the beginning of the video. If I were being fired on, I'd be running like hell.
How many instances have you gotten injured and blood starts gushing out? Our bodies aren't balloons with blood waiting to be spewed. It takes time. It obvious that you're partial to this conflict.
Things like this happen so many times that people have become immune to it and it isn't 'newsworthy' anymore. Look at Iraq. We don't here about the death (or name) of every American soldier anymore. It's only newsworthy when it's two or more soldiers that are killed in a day. Even the low-level civil war in Iraq is only newsworthy when about 5 or more iraqis are killed.
Things like this happen so many times that people have become immune to it and it isn't 'newsworthy' anymore. Look at Iraq. We don't here about the death (or name) of every American soldier anymore. It's only newsworthy when it's two or more soldiers that are killed in a day. Even the low-level civil war in Iraq is only newsworthy when about 5 or more iraqis are killed.
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rudder
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Rare video? The soldiers walked right past the cameraman. I think had the Israelis wanted to cover this up the cameraman would be serioulsy injured. The video seems to be edited in such a way that we don't see what provoked the soldiers to start shooting their rubber bullets. Maybe if someone who speaks the language can interpret the audio.
The sad part of it is this video is probably making its way around the middle east as a massacre video of some sort.
It's not even rubber bullets. Those are blank cartiges. There is no bullet inside. It just makes noise, nothing more.
ProfJohn
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"A German news agency has reported that Hezbollah men have executed eighteen Lebanese accused of spying for Israel. Lebanon has a judicial process, but it was not involved. Hezbollah alone directed and carried out the process of putting these eighteen to death. "
Where is the video of this??
Where is the video of this??
They're using blanks. I use the M16 on nearly a daily basis. If you're using live rounds, the M16 will automatically cycle and push another round into the chamber. By cocking them over and over again, they have to cycle them manually, meaning that the bolts are not going back and forth.
Blanks. You've been DUPED.
Blanks. You've been DUPED.
Umm...our arteries and veins are pressurized. We have a heart that pumps blood through our bodies. Sure, if you get a superficial cut and hit capillaries, you won't see gush. A bullet wound will produce blood almost immediately as the heart tries to pump blood out of the wound, not to mention the splatter from the wound.
Hezbollah does not allow anyone to video tape their soldiers. Not even Fox News. Guess they don't want those pictures where they are 'suffering' as 'civilians' to be compromised!
I'm calling you out on this.
I was in the Canadian Armed Forces and been on exercises many times. We use a version of the M16A2 also used by Israel and the US. The bolt moves properly with blanks as if it was a live round being fired. The only difference was blanks were louder and clogged up the weapon sooner requiring cleaning more often than normal.
Either clarify your statement or don't post BS.
5150Joker
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Ok. I'm in the CF too, been in for 3 years now. Do you remember a little yellow device you put on the front of the barrel called a BFA, or Blank Fire Attachment, that screwed onto the front of the C7? It allowed the gas from the blanks to recycle through the gas mechanism and push the bolt back. Without it, the gas escapes out the front of the barrel and the bolt isn't actioned.
You can clearly see the Israeli troops loading something into the front of those rifles, right into that barrel extension. I'm guessing rubber pellets.
But non-lethal. We can go into weapons dynamics as long as you want, but I'm telling you, those were NOT real bullets. Even the sound is different. You would have heard a much louder noise with the rounds going through the sound barrier. But it was just that POP of the gunpowder going off. Hell man, all we ever USE on exercizes is blanks, you should know that! And you should know how the BFA works too!
Aelius, what unit were you in? Just curious.
It kind of does, because why the hell else would they be doing it? Its pretty obvious from that "savage shooting in cold blood", that if they were shooting anything, they were shooting blanks and rubber.
If they were shooting real bullets, that cameraman would have been out of there, the solders would be taking cover, the captain would be wearing a helmet, and those people would be running like hell.
That video was straight propaganda. No idea why theyre shooting blanks/rubber at them at the first place, but to play it off as some kind of massacre is absurd.
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