zOMG he raped me with his words!
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I'm sorry. I agree the guy is a sicko in some ways, but give me a freakin' break.
He didn't rape anyone unless he actually raped someone.
Unless you count the ownage of their computers as rape. :laugh:
:laugh:
I'm sorry. I agree the guy is a sicko in some ways, but give me a freakin' break.
He didn't rape anyone unless he actually raped someone.
Unless you count the ownage of their computers as rape. :laugh:
They were kids. They were vulnerable. They probably do not know as much about computers as you do.
I do not think they were stupid OR at fault.
I disagree. I definitely think they lacked common sense if they actually thought that giving into the demands of this creep is the only option. Tell your parents? No. Just shut the computer down? No. If I didn't know anything about computers and a man "hacks" into it, the first thing I would do is try to get help. If they actually thought that a couple nude pics would stop this guy, they are really clueless.
On second thought, I'm starting to wonder how old these girls are. Because if they were under 10 or something, this somewhat makes sense. But I doubt it was some 8 year olds in a chat room.
That's an excuse for not knowing that your computer has an ON/OFF button? Please, these people aren't just average internet users, they are MORONS who were just waiting to be victimised online. I have no sympathy whatsoever.
i would think if they can take a picture with a digicam and send an email with attached files, they would know to unplug the intarweb or shut off the comp.
Actually, we really don't know how he got into their computers. If he had enough knowhow, even if they turned off his computer, a lot of them have wakeonlan and he could just boot it off.
Yea, they could just unplug it I guess, although if he really did already get some of the nude photos and blackmailed them for more, he probably already copied them off-site and turning it off wouldn't have done them any good.
It could be a number of things really without the full details etc. I'd say each individual girl involved done it for different reasons. Lack of computer knowledge to being promiscuous. Really, did any of you stop and question the girls relationship with their parents? It's sad that so many of them didnt feel comfortable about telling their parents right away.
shortylickens
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The page has a bunch of pop-ups, so I'll post the article here.
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"Paedophile jailed for transatlantic 'internet rape'
By Philippe Naughton and PA News
An internet paedophile who repeatedly took control of schoolgirls? computers from his own home and "terrorised" them into sending him intimate pictures was jailed today for ten years thanks to the courage of a young Canadian who ignored his threats and told her parents what he was doing.
Adrian Ringland, 36, of Lord Haddon Road, Ilkeston, Derbyshire, posed as an "attractive and innocent" chat room teenager to gain the trust of youngsters either side of the Atlantic, Inner London Crown Court heard.
Once he had the girls' e-mails, the father of two used a highly advanced programme to hack into their PCs, demonstrating the "horrors that lurk within the internet and the minds of some individuals who use it".
By threatening to crash their systems, he then blackmailed his victims into stripping and sending revealing poses of themselves.
Ringland backed up his warnings by visibly taking control of their computers, moving cursors around, switching on printers and, in one case, opening and closing the CD-ROM drawer.
One of his victims said that his considerable IT expertise reminded her of the cult science fiction film Matrix. Another described her ordeal as "internet rape," while a third threatened suicide.
The court heard that once the defendant felt that he had the vulnerable youngsters under his control he forced them to provide ever more explicit pictures of themselves. He warned that refusal would result in the pictures he already had being sent to their friends, or that valuable files would be wiped from their computers.
Ringland was convinced that he was untouchable, boasting to one child: "Call the cops ... they won?t trace me."
But he reckoned without the courage of one of his victims, a 14-year-old girl in Manitoba, Canada, who ignored her tormentor?s threats and told her parents - who then alerted the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.
After an extensive investigation, officers eventually cracked his electronic defences and traced him to his home 4,000 miles away.
Ringland, who was unemployed and living with his partner at the time, was eventually arrested by local police and bailed. But a random check later caught him having sex with a 14-year-old girl he had groomed on the internet.
He pleaded guilty to 20 charges relating to the internet abuse, two of indecency with a child, four of hacking, four of blackmail and ten offences of making indecent photographs of a child. They involved three girls in Britain and one in Canada.
Thirteen similar charges concerning a number of 15-year-old girls, again on both sides of the Atlantic, were ordered to remain on file. Ringland also admitted six charges of unlawful intercourse and one of internet grooming.
Lisa Wilding, prosecuting, told the court: "This is a case about manipulation, exploitation and sexual gratification. It is a startling tale that will bring home to you the horrors that lurk within the internet and the minds of some individuals who use it."
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What scared me was the first few paragraphs.
That modern kids are so utterly dependant (and ignorant of) their computers, they will allow themselves to be blackmailed just so it wont crash.
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"Paedophile jailed for transatlantic 'internet rape'
By Philippe Naughton and PA News
An internet paedophile who repeatedly took control of schoolgirls? computers from his own home and "terrorised" them into sending him intimate pictures was jailed today for ten years thanks to the courage of a young Canadian who ignored his threats and told her parents what he was doing.
Adrian Ringland, 36, of Lord Haddon Road, Ilkeston, Derbyshire, posed as an "attractive and innocent" chat room teenager to gain the trust of youngsters either side of the Atlantic, Inner London Crown Court heard.
Once he had the girls' e-mails, the father of two used a highly advanced programme to hack into their PCs, demonstrating the "horrors that lurk within the internet and the minds of some individuals who use it".
By threatening to crash their systems, he then blackmailed his victims into stripping and sending revealing poses of themselves.
Ringland backed up his warnings by visibly taking control of their computers, moving cursors around, switching on printers and, in one case, opening and closing the CD-ROM drawer.
One of his victims said that his considerable IT expertise reminded her of the cult science fiction film Matrix. Another described her ordeal as "internet rape," while a third threatened suicide.
The court heard that once the defendant felt that he had the vulnerable youngsters under his control he forced them to provide ever more explicit pictures of themselves. He warned that refusal would result in the pictures he already had being sent to their friends, or that valuable files would be wiped from their computers.
Ringland was convinced that he was untouchable, boasting to one child: "Call the cops ... they won?t trace me."
But he reckoned without the courage of one of his victims, a 14-year-old girl in Manitoba, Canada, who ignored her tormentor?s threats and told her parents - who then alerted the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.
After an extensive investigation, officers eventually cracked his electronic defences and traced him to his home 4,000 miles away.
Ringland, who was unemployed and living with his partner at the time, was eventually arrested by local police and bailed. But a random check later caught him having sex with a 14-year-old girl he had groomed on the internet.
He pleaded guilty to 20 charges relating to the internet abuse, two of indecency with a child, four of hacking, four of blackmail and ten offences of making indecent photographs of a child. They involved three girls in Britain and one in Canada.
Thirteen similar charges concerning a number of 15-year-old girls, again on both sides of the Atlantic, were ordered to remain on file. Ringland also admitted six charges of unlawful intercourse and one of internet grooming.
Lisa Wilding, prosecuting, told the court: "This is a case about manipulation, exploitation and sexual gratification. It is a startling tale that will bring home to you the horrors that lurk within the internet and the minds of some individuals who use it."
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What scared me was the first few paragraphs.
That modern kids are so utterly dependant (and ignorant of) their computers, they will allow themselves to be blackmailed just so it wont crash.
shortylickens
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If you folks read the whole article, he did eventually have sex with a 14 year-old.
Thats statuatory rape. And given the circumstances of how he met the girls, possibly forced rape.
Also, the "internet rape" was is quotes in the article.
If you read furthur down, one of the young girls he harrassed used the term, and the reporter was just using her expression in his title.
Thats statuatory rape. And given the circumstances of how he met the girls, possibly forced rape.
Also, the "internet rape" was is quotes in the article.
If you read furthur down, one of the young girls he harrassed used the term, and the reporter was just using her expression in his title.
timosyy
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I'm more curious as to how it was administered. The article says it infected their computers after they opened a supposed picture of the man.
But wouldn't that fall under that mythical .jpg scare a while back? Did they only open picture files or actually run executables? The former would be somewhat understandable, as they probably thought simply opening picture files was harmless and would have freaked when he suddenly had control. If they actually ran something then we just need to incorporate a little more internet education in the education system.
But wouldn't that fall under that mythical .jpg scare a while back? Did they only open picture files or actually run executables? The former would be somewhat understandable, as they probably thought simply opening picture files was harmless and would have freaked when he suddenly had control. If they actually ran something then we just need to incorporate a little more internet education in the education system.
fleshconsumed
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Well the article does say he had physical sex with 14yo.
Even so I think he does deserve what he got, even if he did not have sex with that 14yo. There are reasons why minors cannot enter in legal contracts. For the same reason they must be protected from situations such as these.
However I did find the following paragraph funny: "One of his victims said that his considerable IT expertise reminded her of the cult science fiction film Matrix."
Guess that's the proof that hollywood crap will be the end of it all...This could be prevented by educating kids about what can and cannot be done over the internet and on a computer, and letting them know that pretty much anything can be traced so they're not trapped if they get help from police.
I remember playing with netbus, which is what I think he used. Describes a few features (ie, cdrom opening and closing)
Scared a few people in the process, but damn, never thought someone would actually sexually terrorize others using software like that.
Knowledge really is power. He's nothing more then a script kiddie. Who used his "superior" knowledge to scare 15 year olds.
Scared a few people in the process, but damn, never thought someone would actually sexually terrorize others using software like that.
Knowledge really is power. He's nothing more then a script kiddie. Who used his "superior" knowledge to scare 15 year olds.
anything is possible when a person has a sick mind, and kids do naughty things they don't want to tell their parents about.
no girl wants to be telling her mother that she was talking to an unknown guy when her mother explicitly told her not to communicate with anyone else outside her IRL social circle. i'm female. i understand that mentality. i understand why they weren't comfortable speaking to their parents about it. i understand that when i was younger under my parents' roof, i was communicative online with people my parents did not want me to communicate with. i definitely didn't want to share the stress of my online relationships with my parents for fear that they would shut it off and prevent me from using the internet. would you blame me? would you blame them for not wanting to share this with their parents? would you tell your parents about that pr0n collection you have on your computer or those habits you do behind closed doors? think for a moment about what you're claiming.
sure runes911, they can turn their computers off, but the threats are scary. if he had a single picture, that's enough blackmail for him to do more later, even if they turned the computer off. you don't want that. once you're in the game, you're in the game. and that's what these girls feared. you hang up with an angry person on the phone and that angry person is vengeful. it's even worse when you can't tell what the person's emotion is because it's all text-based chat.
so jeff7, your answer, while practical for a computer literate individual, is not practical for the young teenage girl who is just on the internet to socialize. i could also do "netstat -a" instead of "ipconfig /release." but what are these kids supposed to know?
he did a bad thing, and he deserves it. and it's no surprise that these girls were afraid. if you were an unsuspecting female with no computer background doing similar activities, i bet you'd be scared as hell too.
no girl wants to be telling her mother that she was talking to an unknown guy when her mother explicitly told her not to communicate with anyone else outside her IRL social circle. i'm female. i understand that mentality. i understand why they weren't comfortable speaking to their parents about it. i understand that when i was younger under my parents' roof, i was communicative online with people my parents did not want me to communicate with. i definitely didn't want to share the stress of my online relationships with my parents for fear that they would shut it off and prevent me from using the internet. would you blame me? would you blame them for not wanting to share this with their parents? would you tell your parents about that pr0n collection you have on your computer or those habits you do behind closed doors? think for a moment about what you're claiming.
sure runes911, they can turn their computers off, but the threats are scary. if he had a single picture, that's enough blackmail for him to do more later, even if they turned the computer off. you don't want that. once you're in the game, you're in the game. and that's what these girls feared. you hang up with an angry person on the phone and that angry person is vengeful. it's even worse when you can't tell what the person's emotion is because it's all text-based chat.
so jeff7, your answer, while practical for a computer literate individual, is not practical for the young teenage girl who is just on the internet to socialize. i could also do "netstat -a" instead of "ipconfig /release." but what are these kids supposed to know?
he did a bad thing, and he deserves it. and it's no surprise that these girls were afraid. if you were an unsuspecting female with no computer background doing similar activities, i bet you'd be scared as hell too.
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