Newegg P4 CPU prices...

THUGSROOK

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in typical fashion Newegg P4 CPU prices are going up! (and down, and up again) expect others to follow.
(newegg is ALWAYS the 1st to raise prices and the last to drop them) :disgust:

googlegear prices have been pretty steady.

so much for the Nov10 price drop huh?
 

Johnnychangs

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Yeah, they are up a few bucks from yesterday.
Typical, trying to make some extra cash before they are forced to cut prices.

There was another post on this topic already...but someone is trying to change it into an AMD/Intel pissing contest...yeesh.
 

dbwillis

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Yeh, noticed that too.
--I also noticed Crucials prices also went up, on 10/29 I got a 256mb stick (PC2100) for $67.16 shipped, last ngiht the same stick was $80 ish before shipping.
 

Johnnychangs

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This is shite because I thought the prices were going down today. Are we going to have to wait until January for the "Nov.10 pricecut"?

The discount was supposed to be per 1000 units bought. So what about reseller's current stock? Are they going to wait until they get rid of their current stock of P4s before they slash prices?

If so, it could be a long wait, better off to try a small local shop.

 

techietam

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Well.. There is another price cut coming on Novemer 17th but I definately
expected to see it today...
 

RalfHutter

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Yesterday's price reduction was only on the 2,8Ghz (-21%), the 2.66Ghz (-24%), and the 2.6Ghz (-24%), and on all the Celerons (between 17 and 29%)

The November 17th cuts are only on Zeons.
 

techietam

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Yup. I just checked Intel stie. Nov.17 is for Zeon.
I didn't realize it last time I checked.

Actually, Intel did drop prices on P4 and Celerons, since
I could buy 2.8 for $199 today instead of $251 as of yesterday,
if one of our guys didn't buy it.. GRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am so mad!!!!! I am about to cry...
Oh well... I'll have to stick with 2.53 for now...
 

chizow

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Originally posted by: Johnnychangs
The discount was supposed to be per 1000 units bought. So what about reseller's current stock? Are they going to wait until they get rid of their current stock of P4s before they slash prices?

If so, it could be a long wait, better off to try a small local shop.

No, resellers typically get some type of credit for existing inventory, which is usually applied to future orders rather than an actual repayment on the difference. As soon as the manu announces a price cut, the change should be reflected at the reseller. If not, your reseller is sketchy and you should let em know that :)

Chiz

 

RU482

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Originally posted by: techietam
Yup. I just checked Intel stie. Nov.17 is for Zeon.
I didn't realize it last time I checked.

Actually, Intel did drop prices on P4 and Celerons, since
I could buy 2.8 for $199 today instead of $251 as of yesterday,
if one of our guys didn't buy it.. GRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am so mad!!!!! I am about to cry...
Oh well... I'll have to stick with 2.53 for now...


let me get this straight, are you talking about a p4 2.8 for $199.....WHERE???
 

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Originally posted by: redly1
Originally posted by: techietam
Just got me a Celly 2.0 for $45.36 shipped UPS BLUE :)

WHERE WHERE WHERE!!!

He gets the deals through his company so it's not a hot deal :(
 

andrey

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Originally posted by: chizow

No, resellers typically get some type of credit for existing inventory, which is usually applied to future orders rather than an actual repayment on the difference. As soon as the manu announces a price cut, the change should be reflected at the reseller. If not, your reseller is sketchy and you should let em know that :)
Chiz

Resellers do not receive any credit for their remaining inventory. The price cut is not be reflected at the retail level on the same day simply because existing batch of CPUs need to be sold before new CPUs are ordered, and that normally takes a week or so, depending on the retail.

--Andrey


 

chizow

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Originally posted by: andrey
Originally posted by: chizow

No, resellers typically get some type of credit for existing inventory, which is usually applied to future orders rather than an actual repayment on the difference. As soon as the manu announces a price cut, the change should be reflected at the reseller. If not, your reseller is sketchy and you should let em know that :)
Chiz

Resellers do not receive any credit for their remaining inventory. The price cut is not be reflected at the retail level on the same day simply because existing batch of CPUs need to be sold before new CPUs are ordered, and that normally takes a week or so, depending on the retail.

--Andrey

I hope you are speaking from experience, because I know I am. Inventory pricing and product life cycle analysis are part of what I do in assessing a company's financial health. Maybe your experiences are different, but I'm not talking about mom and pop shops that buy 10 cpus a month to plop into some home built rigs, I'm talking authorized resellers.

In any case, price protection is one of the biggest concerns that must be overcome before a reseller agrees to sell a product. This is particularly true in market segments with high competition, short product life cycles, and high rates of depreciation. To convince a reseller to carry their product, manufacturers have to offer incentives, or else they simply can't compete. Essentially, they have to assume some of the risk and liability if the retailer can't sell the product. Here's 3 examples that quickly come to mind 1) Computers and consumer electronics 2) Automobiles 3) Magazines.

With all of these goods, everyone knows that something bigger and better and newer is right around the corner. Yet there is demand now. This uncertainty forces both the manufacturer and the retailer to shoulder the burden of risk, and here's some examples how:

1) Computers and consumer electronics: Typically, the manufacturer shoulders any decrease in price through MIR rebates (TVs, OEM desktops, Stereos etc). This allows the retailer to collect the full cost of the purchase and keep their target gross on the sale per item. On the manufacturers side, they keep the retailer happy, don't have to issue any refunds or credits, many MIRs are not redeemed, but they take a hit to revenue for whatever period it is issued. In cases of CPUs and larger volume consumer electronics, there is a credit or discount due to the constant change in prices and the volume involved. Think of it from your standpoint, would you want to purchase more inventory than what you had already sold (JIT, used by Dell among others) with the risk of being OOS and losing business? Or would you agree to carry more inventory provided the manufacturer bears some of the risk? Again, these agreements vary from B2B, obviously depending on how much leverage the reseller has. Like I said, if your reseller doesn't reflect new prices immediately, they're pretty sketchy and probably aren't authorized resellers, just selling on the margin and trying to make a few extra bucks. Then again, they probably don't have the purchasing power nor the need to stock as much inventory.

2) Autos: Factory markdowns rather than local dealerships taking huge hits. Factories need to put their cars on lots, but dealerships don't want to eat their margins since lot space costs money.

3) Magazines: Case where publishers take almost 100% of the risk. Magazines are sold on consighment. They aren't typically counted as part of a retailer's inventory, but retailers receive flat "showroom" fees as well as a % of what is sold. Any unsold that are out of circulation are either destroyed or returned at no cost to the retailer. Video games, DVDs, CDs and other items are sold in much the same manner. The manu/licensee bears much of the cost and profit on the goods, with a small margin going to the retailer.

I've had clients in each of these industries and its the same story whether you talk to purchasing managers, look at contracts, glance at the balance sheet or read the MD&A portion of a quarterly or annual report. These are pretty basic business concepts, but I felt the need to clarify since not everyone has industry experience.

Chiz
 

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Great post chizow! and thanx for the enlightening data as well :cool: I feel like I've just attended a free seminar ;)
 

DoubleL

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Not just the P4's I see the AMD 2400+ went up, I got some for some computers I was building about 10 days ago and went to order some more and the price was higher, Pretty soon one will cost as much as a good bottle of wine
 
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Must be time for the christmas buying season eh? Gas prices are going up again, and shipping prices went up dramatically (I've seen average of 25%-50% increases) about 3 weeks ago.
 

Yeti101

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I'm probly buying my system after X-mas......... I was looking forward to the NV30, but now... Its not going to be out by X-mas :(
 

rIpTOr

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damn I must be going insane when the P4 3.06 just came out @ newegg it was $720. Now its $799

WTF!?
 

Jgtdragon

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Just emailed Newegg to see they can check voltage for me on their OEM chip.

Here is the reply:

Dear John

Unfortunately, we do not have a way to physically getting our hands on our most current stock and tell you what voltage is on the CPU. Also, I cannot tag a particular item for a particular order. We ship what we have, when we have it, at our discretion. We do not have such information unless specified on our website, sorry. Have a nice day.



Oh well. :)