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yh125d

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Originally posted by: blckgrffn
Originally posted by: coldpower27
Originally posted by: Cheex
Originally posted by: the Chase
Originally posted by: Cheex
@ Newegg, just type 8600GT in the search engine...It will bring up both the GT's and the GTS's.

They are a disappointment though.

Yeah Nvidia really dropped the ball with these cards. I can understand reducing costs to maximize profits but these are.......kinda slow.

You can leave out the kinda.

Fine NV...clock both the GT & the GTS at 675/2000 but for heaven's sake, give the GTS 256-bit.

That's what NVIDIA should have done.

I would have rather they increased it to a minimum of 48 Shader Processors, at the cards intended resolutions of 10x7 and 12x10 the memroy bandwidth is not usually the limiting factor.

Yep. Nvidia seems to content to leave a huge performance disparity between high end and the middle, almost like the X1600 series vs the x1800/1900 series. Let's hope, for ATI's and competitions sake, that we can see a Radeon in midrange that is simply ~ 25% faster than the geforce equivalent. (ala X1600 vs the 7600's).

At least that would keep it interesting. :)

don't you mean 7600's vs x1600s?
 

blckgrffn

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Originally posted by: yh125d
Originally posted by: blckgrffn
Originally posted by: coldpower27
Originally posted by: Cheex
Originally posted by: the Chase
Originally posted by: Cheex
@ Newegg, just type 8600GT in the search engine...It will bring up both the GT's and the GTS's.

They are a disappointment though.

Yeah Nvidia really dropped the ball with these cards. I can understand reducing costs to maximize profits but these are.......kinda slow.

You can leave out the kinda.

Fine NV...clock both the GT & the GTS at 675/2000 but for heaven's sake, give the GTS 256-bit.

That's what NVIDIA should have done.

I would have rather they increased it to a minimum of 48 Shader Processors, at the cards intended resolutions of 10x7 and 12x10 the memroy bandwidth is not usually the limiting factor.

Yep. Nvidia seems to content to leave a huge performance disparity between high end and the middle, almost like the X1600 series vs the x1800/1900 series. Let's hope, for ATI's and competitions sake, that we can see a Radeon in midrange that is simply ~ 25% faster than the geforce equivalent. (ala X1600 vs the 7600's).

At least that would keep it interesting. :)

don't you mean 7600's vs x1600s?

Um, yes... sorry, I guess I though everybody would know what I meant :)
 

Cookie Monster

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RV630XT unfortunately performs around the 8600GTS.

Its from hardspell.com as they have pics of the card, and leaked benchmark numbers.
 

yh125d

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Originally posted by: blckgrffn
Originally posted by: yh125d
Originally posted by: blckgrffn
Originally posted by: coldpower27
Originally posted by: Cheex
Originally posted by: the Chase
Originally posted by: Cheex
@ Newegg, just type 8600GT in the search engine...It will bring up both the GT's and the GTS's.

They are a disappointment though.

Yeah Nvidia really dropped the ball with these cards. I can understand reducing costs to maximize profits but these are.......kinda slow.

You can leave out the kinda.

Fine NV...clock both the GT & the GTS at 675/2000 but for heaven's sake, give the GTS 256-bit.

That's what NVIDIA should have done.

I would have rather they increased it to a minimum of 48 Shader Processors, at the cards intended resolutions of 10x7 and 12x10 the memroy bandwidth is not usually the limiting factor.

Yep. Nvidia seems to content to leave a huge performance disparity between high end and the middle, almost like the X1600 series vs the x1800/1900 series. Let's hope, for ATI's and competitions sake, that we can see a Radeon in midrange that is simply ~ 25% faster than the geforce equivalent. (ala X1600 vs the 7600's).

At least that would keep it interesting. :)

don't you mean 7600's vs x1600s?

Um, yes... sorry, I guess I though everybody would know what I meant :)

yeah, just wanted to make sure
 

tuteja1986

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Originally posted by: elcamino74ss
figures I just bought a 7900gs this weekend for $154 with a $15 rebate.

don't worry.. the 8600gt is crap and the 8600gts that is able to beat up an X1950pro in some situation is the Asus 8600GTS top Stock OC version which cost $229. A stock 8600GT has no chance of beat up a X1950pro but a 8600GTS oc has.
 

coldpower27

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Originally posted by: tuteja1986
don't worry.. the 8600gt is crap and the 8600gts that is able to beat up an X1950pro in some situation is the Asus 8600GTS top Stock OC version which cost $229. A stock 8600GT has no chance of beat up a X1950pro but a 8600GTS oc has.

8600 GT is basically equal in performance to the 7600 GT while haveing DX10 functionality so it's a decent SKU.

Originally posted by: elcamino74ss
figures I just bought a 7900gs this weekend for $154 with a $15 rebate.

That's a good deal, it will be a bit before the pricing of the Geforce 8600 normalizes.
 

coldpower27

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Originally posted by: blckgrffn
Originally posted by: A5
Well, the 8600GTS cards are hanging out with the X1950XT in price...that's a pretty easy decision in favor of the X1950XT.

If only AMD/ATI were making the same amount of profit on that card as nvidia is making on the cheaper to make 8600 series...

Yes but that comes at what cost to ATI? The die size of the R580 is basically double that of the 8600 not to mention the 256Bit PCB.

It's not even close. For the consumer obviously for the moment the depreciated high end cards are better deals.
 

blckgrffn

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Originally posted by: coldpower27
Originally posted by: blckgrffn
Originally posted by: A5
Well, the 8600GTS cards are hanging out with the X1950XT in price...that's a pretty easy decision in favor of the X1950XT.

If only AMD/ATI were making the same amount of profit on that card as nvidia is making on the cheaper to make 8600 series...

Yes but that comes at what cost to ATI? The die size of the R580 is basically double that of the 8600 not to mention the 256Bit PCB.

It's not even close. For the consumer obviously for the moment the depreciated high end cards are better deals.

Exactly. For some people, 70% of the performance but with DX10 and half of the power consumption will still be enough to get their cash, so nvidia is really in the drivers seat right now.

Nat
 

hans030390

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I think it's sad that an the 8600gts isn't much faster (if at all) than the x1950pro (I think that's what it compares to), at least for the price.

Let's just hope DX10 is put to good use in the near future...maybe then it will be worth buying it over the x1950.

I still think it's more reasonable to but an 8800gts.