Newcastle Winchester

[pnyxxpress]

I just bought a NewCaslte. I don't see much mention of the Newcastle. What's the big difference?

 

[Regs]

The Winchester is for the 939 Socket motherboards with Dual Channel RAM. So 939's have the benefit of more bandwidth from the memory to the CPU and back. The Winchester is also on another fabrication process. Which means the actually CPU die is smaller and uses less transistors to power the CPU. Less transistors in use = less power consumption and generates less heat. Consequently leading to higher over clocks.

 

[Regs]

Let me clear something up before I get flamed. Both the 90nm and newcaslte have the same ammount of transistors but the 90nm uses them differently where all of them don't have to be at use all at the same time.

But since the 90nm is a smaller core of itself, it uses less power.

 

[CheesePoofs]

Both winchesters and newcastles run on socket 939 (so they both can use dual channel ram), but only newcastles run on socket 754.

Winchesters are essentially the exact same chip as a newcastle except that they are made on a 90nm process instead of a 130nm. This means they run cooler and use less power.

 

[veggz]

I was actually wondering the same thing myself. So if someone is not interested in overclocking, there would be no reason to get a winchester?

 

[jabronidan89]

In a month, Venice (a new core) will be released. This will be an improved Winchester, with SSE3 (instructions for the processor).

 

[teutonicknight]

Originally posted by: veggz
I was actually wondering the same thing myself. So if someone is not interested in overclocking, there would be no reason to get a winchester?

Well, with a chip outputting less heat, you can go for more silent cooling solutions, not to mention a slightly smaller power bill.

 

[amol]

Originally posted by: jabronidan89
In a month, Venice (a new core) will be released. This will be an improved Winchester, with SSE3 (instructions for the processor).

ehh, i'd rather get a Winchester for now

not a lot of apps utilize SSE3 . . .

maybe by the time dual core comes around. . .

 

[Spikesoldier]

damn and i just pulled the trigger on a winchester'

no pun intended 😉

 

[amol]

Originally posted by: Spikesoldier
damn and i just pulled the trigger on a winchester'

no pun intended 😉

3000+, 3200+, or 3500+?

its okay though, venice is going to be winchester, only higher speeds (therefore, more expensive)

and im not planning on getting dual cores until there are apps and games for it (and the tech has been proven)

 

[pnyxxpress]

Well, Lookks like I should of asked this question before I bought a Newcasltle. I have a 3500+ running at 2563 at 1.600 volts. I think thats a pretty reasonable OC. Temp under prime95 small files peaks at 51c.