Newbie Questions

[brewerbob]

1. What is overclocking? I know you are changing the Mhz somehow by changing the voltage?
2. What does it do to the CPU? If it doesn't hurt it why doesn't Intel/AMD sell the 500 as a 700?
3. Is heat the only concern with the CPU? Use liquid nitrogen and turn an 8088 into a super computer.
4. What does overclocking do to the warrentee? Is there a way Intel/AMD can look at the chip to see if you smoked it by overclocking vs a bad chip that smoked on it own?

 

[arod324]

1. Overclock is increase the front side bus or multiplier to increase your clock speed (mhz)
2. Your cpu will get hotter and run faster. You can counter the heat by adding additional fans and/or bigger heatsinks. It really doesn't hurt it and Intel/AMD sell the 500's because they want to milk the market. They start at low grades, and slowly move up, even though all of the chips could probably handle higher speeds. This is what Intel did in the Pentium I days. It had no competition, so why would they want to make faster processors?
3. Liquid nitrogen can freeze your cpu, and it will not continue to run. There is a certain limit to what a certain chip can do. Many super computers are supercooled to make them faster.
4. It usually voids the warranty, but with Intel, they can never tell because you are just changing the FSB.

 

[brewerbob]

It really doesn't hurt it and Intel/AMD sell the 500's because they want to milk the market. They start at low grades, and slowly move up, even though all of the chips could probably handle higher speeds. This is what Intel did in the Pentium I days. It had no competition, so why would they want to make faster processors?It really doesn't hurt it and Intel/AMD sell the 500's because they want to milk the market. They start at low grades, and slowly move up, even though all of the chips could probably handle higher speeds. This is what Intel did in the Pentium I days. It had no competition, so why would they want to make faster processors?

Now AMD and Intel have been competing for years. The first one to reach 1GHz had to be worth something. Wouldn't you want your company to be the first to reach 10GHz (even if you had to cheat a little) if everyone else is at 5GHz? You could say you were twice as fast.

How can anything freeze your computer? Remove the moisture and you wouldn't have to worry about ice.

 

[arod324]

I read this thing, where the people put liquid nitrogen onto a processor, and it cracked it because the temp was too low.

 

[arod324]

Also, one reason for releasing multiple "grades" of cpu's, is because not everybody is going to want the top end stuff. Intel and AMD want to offer value solutions to the market. The average consumer (retail) who buys his/her computer in a store, isn't necessarily going to want to buy the fastest computer, but wants to spend less and buy a slower computer.

 

[brewerbob]

That would have been from either not baking the moisture out of it first or from the extreme temperture swing. If you did it gradually it wouldn't hurt anything (a guess, never actually tried it).

 

[arod324]

They just kinda "stuck the nitrogen in" without trying to slowly cool it down.

 

[brewerbob]

Hope it was an old and extra CPU!!!

 

[arod324]

It was something like a Celeron 566 or something, so it only set them back about $50. They got it up to like 1200 or so with this "water" which they used to submerge their motherboard and cpu in. But then they used the liquid nitro on the cpu, and it cracked.

 

[brewerbob]

More money than brains...I'm running on a K6 200Mhz AMD. The next time they want to trash a CPU have them send it to me.