Newbie needs general advice

Dnepr

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Feb 16, 2005
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I'm new to this forum, but not new to building PCs. I just haven't been keeping up with stuff in the last 2.5 years (new marriage and bought a Dell) HA! So, I need some quick advice.

Currently, I'm running a Dell 400SC with a P4 3.0Ghz, 1gig PC3200 Crucial nonECC RAM, and a Radeon 9800 Pro AGP card. I have a Dell 1905FPV LCD Monitor, but also still have my Samsung 955 19" CRT that I'm not using now, and would prefer not to use again. I want a new machine, plain and simple, and I want one that isn't so 'plain vanilla' and so contraining.

I've decided to go with one of the AMD 64 chips, but can't afford higher than a 3800 (and would much prefer to go cheaper if possible). I don't mind overclocking, but I doubt seriously if I will be trying to push any envelopes with water cooling and such (better and quieter fans/heatsinks is about as far as I want to go). I can get a good 450-500 watt case and that shouldn't be too hard. I also doubt that I will ever see a need to go with SLI graphics. I'm 55 years old, and I like games, but find myself less and less willing to put in the time to play them, and less and less atracted to FPS types (I do enjoy DOOM3 and HL2 solitaire). I could care less for Unreal Tournament or LAN parties or multiplayer online. I loved the heck out of Total War Rome and those types of military games and I love COD and MOH. These are my parameters.

Here is where I'm having trouble deciding.

Should I go with a Winchester core with a 3500 and 939 socket. Is socket 754 mostly for notebooks or should I consider it also? A 3500 isn't available in socket 754 right? But a 3700 is. Should I rule out socket 754 altogether? I've heard that 939 runs cooler than 754, is this true?

More... Should I save money and get an nforce3 board and stay with AGP and not have to buy another video card now, or should I bite the bullet and go PCIE and therefore have to buy another video card?

One strong consideration is that I DON'T want a loud and humming case that sounds like a jet about to take off sitting under my feet. (One thing I like about the Dell is that it is quite - I can take a little more noise dbs, but not too much.)

Can some of you 'experts' out there help an old-timer from Radio Shack TRS-80 days out? It would be much appreciated.

Thanks, Steve
 

ts3433

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What are you looking to improve? Your current system should handle most things you throw at it right now as it is. If you just want faster framerates, higher resolutions, and/or more details in games, just upgrade your video card.
 

Dnepr

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First, I want windows and other stuff I do (like ripping DVD's with DVD Shrink and encoding my home movies from digital tape to DVD and converting music from analog to digital) to go faster. Also, I want something that I can 'tinker' with, and as you know, you can't 'tinker' much with a Dell Bios - it is what it is.

But, what (in AGP) is out there that is that much faster video card than what I have now - bang for the buck wise?

I guess though the main thing bugging me is that I can't 'play' or 'tinker' with the Dell much.

And wouldn't a A64 3500 be a good bit faster than what I have now, by maybe 15-20% processor wise?

Thanks
 

Zebo

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1G ram stick or 2 x 512?

I'd get a 3000 and EPOX board in my sig ~$240 total.

Use your existing memory (Crucial OC very well anyway since it's the best ram) then set HTT to 270 and you got a 3800 with stock/quiet HSF.

PlaY with that for awile.. then if you still find video lacking get another video card..like the 6800ultra..
 

Dnepr

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I've got 2 512 sticks. My Crucial mem is stuck the basic memory - nothing fancy. One other reason that I want to build a new system is because I'm planning to put the Dell down in the basement next to my stereo and put all my CD collection on hard disk and use my computer to feed music to my vacuum tube stereo system.

Which EPOX board would you recommend? The one you have?
 

BoleCailey

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I wish I went with the EPOX board rather that neo platinum 2 (hard to get stable to me). I wish i went with a 3200 instead of a 3500 as i probably could have overclocked to exactly where i am at right now and saved 50-60 dollars. Make sure you go with a good power supply like an OCZ modsream or a Antec true power.