Newb Question

[imported_LoKe]

If an intel runs at 2.0ghz, and an AMD runs at 2.0ghz, which is better or are they the same?

My instincts tell me the AMD would be better, but why?

And what's the equivalent to an Intel 2.0, when looking at semprons?

 

[Lord ZipLoc]

first you have to look at other things then core clock for example intel pentium 4 2.0hgz or a celeron 2gz second if you have an amd xp 2000 its comparable to an intel p4 2ghz but is clocked lower at around 1.5ghz tell us the chips your comparing also dotn forget Level 2 cache and front side bus speeds

 

[junkerman123]

Translation: AMD is better. <3

 

[Lord ZipLoc]

Amd is not always better than intel. Case and point intel is better at multitaskign and amd is better for gaming

 

[junkerman123]

I was talking about his example. An AMD clocked at 2 ghz is better than a p3 at 2.0 GHz.

 

[Lord ZipLoc]

Originally posted by: junkerman123
I was talking about his example. An AMD clocked at 2 ghz is better than a p3 at 2.0 GHz.

in that case yes amd is better sorry for the confusion

 

[ShadowBlade]

amd is best for gaming, amd a64 X2 is better than intels for everything intel used to be good at

 

[imported_LoKe]

I'm not comparing anything in particular, I'm just having a hard time deciding which is better. I was looking at a Sempron 2800+ that runs at 2.0Ghz, but then again I have an intel P4 in my dell at the moment, and it runs at 2.0Ghz. I know nothing else about it. -,-

 

[dornick]

The Sempron will destroy the P4

 

[imported_LoKe]

But why? And by how much?

What P4 would the Sempron equal to? a 2.2? 2.4?

Thanks for the reply. 🙂

 

[dornick]

It will beat it because AMD runs more instructions per clock cycle.

As for the Intel equivalent, I dont know. You'll have to find some benchmarks or find a better informed guy.

 

[imported_Kensai]

Uh.. You might want to post that in the Highly Technical forum where they'll give you one hell'va answer.

One reason is how many instructions per clock the CPU can complete. AMD is yet again, ahead.
Currently, AMD is beating Intel on all fronts except in the super cheap budget systems in mass quantities section where Intel is winning due to Dell and their Celeries.

That Sempron 2800+ will be equivilent to a 2.8GHz P4 in office work and such.

 

[dornick]

yeah, according to THG, its competitor was the 2.8Ghz Celeron D

 

[imported_LoKe]

Thanks for the info guys. :thumbsup:

I'm building a budget system (~300-350[after shipping+taxes]) and figured the 2800+ Sempron for 125.00 CAD was a good way to go.
Now to find everything else to go with it... ^_^

Thanks again. 🙂

 

[imported_LoKe]

CP1-SEM28007 :: AMD Sempron 2800+ / 256KB Cache / 1600MHz FSB / Socket 754 / Processor with Fan -- $125.99
TC3J-4006 :: Premium Blue 2522 Alien ATX Mid-Tower Case with Front USB and Audio Ports and 400-Watt Power Supply -- $53.99
S458-1212 :: ECS K8T800-A Via Socket 754 ATX Motherboard / Audio / 4x/8x AGP / 10/100 Ethernet LAN / USB 2.0 / Serial ATA / CNR -- $76.99


Canadian prices. Good so far?

 

[w00t]

amd has shorter pipelines ex. AMD pipeline : --
intels pipeline: ---
so even if amd processors have less ghz doesnt mean they are slower because they are on a shorter pipeline. right now amd64 is best for gaming if ur into multitasking than amd64x2. intel p4's used to be better than amd xp's even thought the amd xp's had a shorter pipeline.

 

[imported_LoKe]

I'm not a gamer, so I'd just need it for regular use. Would be running Windows XP (possibly pro), Firefox, AIM, iTunes, some Torrent programs, probably watching some DVD's, burning CD's, using Photoshop/Dreamweaver and any other program that catches my eye.

I've already got 2x256 RAM sticks sitting around. I have a few spare hard drives and a monitor, so I don't really need much.

 

[shoRunner]

speed of a processor is determined by IPC(instructions per clockcycle) * frequency(mhz,ghz). amd does 9 IPC vs intel's 6. there is other chip architecture that comes into place, like the athlon 64 integrated memory controller that lowers system latencies.

 

[KoolDrew]

Originally posted by: Lord ZipLoc
Amd is not always better than intel. Case and point intel is better at multitaskign and amd is better for gaming

Not when it comes to X2's

 

[Lord ZipLoc]

Originally posted by: KoolDrew

Originally posted by: Lord ZipLoc
Amd is not always better than intel. Case and point intel is better at multitaskign and amd is better for gaming

Not when it comes to X2's

the x2's are way overpriced with the 4800 costing 1000 i dont think it applies in this post the guy wants a budget system

 

[johnnqq]

go with amd. if you're just doing basic stuff and not video encoding or whatever amd is pretty much the same, if not faster. AND it is cooler and cheaper. oh yea it overclocks better too.

 

[imported_LoKe]

Thanks. 🙂

 

[watek]

What Front side bus is that intel inside your dell? 100??

 

[imported_LoKe]

I have absolutely no idea. 🙁