New York wants to make it a felony to annoy a cop.

Kadarin

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You can damned well bet that the definition of "annoy" will be greatly expanded over time.
 

Double Trouble

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That seems really crazy and over the top, rife for abuse. Then again, New Yorkers apparently love government control of their lives.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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That seems really crazy and over the top, rife for abuse. Then again, New Yorkers apparently love government control of their lives.

We haven't any choice. Democracy is a joke here since all options are alike. The political machine own us.
 

HamburgerBoy

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Being that the word "annoy" is used exactly once in the link, and that the rest refers to physical aggravation, I'm going to guess that it's some legal definition of the word contrary to how ATPN laymen understand it.
 

glenn1

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That seems really crazy and over the top, rife for abuse. Then again, New Yorkers apparently love government control of their lives.

Sounds good to this non-New Yorker. It will really be a shame if cops have to billy club some villainous felons breaking this law. "Don't taze me bro" indeed.
 

Dari

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This will be thrown out by the courts. Who's paying you, Senator Griffo?
 

irishScott

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Well on the bright side, the streets of New York will soon be free of annoying, blaring rap music. :D
 

woolfe9998

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You can damned well bet that the definition of "annoy" will be greatly expanded over time.

The word "annoy" is in numerous harassment statutes and has been for a long while. Whatever it means, it isn't the simple act of irritating someone. In any event, I see no evidence of it "expanding over time."
 

Hayabusa Rider

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The word "annoy" is in numerous harassment statutes and has been for a long while. Whatever it means, it isn't the simple act of irritating someone. In any event, I see no evidence of it "expanding over time."

Why does it have to expand? It's already there.
We need to make it very clear that when a police officer is performing his duty, every citizen needs to comply and that refusal to comply carries a penalty.”

MLK would be doing time for a felony.
 

woolfe9998

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Why does it have to expand? It's already there.

Yes, but he said it would expand, AND you didn't reply to the second part of what I said. Whatever is meant by "annoy" it isn't merely to be irritating.

It is in fact illegal to do this to anyone BTW. I think what's new here is making it a felony when you do it to police.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Yes, but he said it would expand, AND you didn't reply to the second part of what I said. Whatever is meant by "annoy" it isn't merely to be irritating.

It is in fact illegal to do this to anyone BTW. I think what's new here is making it a felony when you do it to police.

There was little point in discussing expansion when the penalty for annoyance is a felony. I suppose it could become a death penalty issue but I haven't seen that suggested. It would be interesting to see thousands of Wall Street protesters charged with felonies. What about someone who doesn't pull over fast enough to suit a policeman who's going to issue a traffic ticket? What's the check on that? I'd ask under what circumstances would someone not be subject to a potential felony charge? The author of the bill seems keen on disrespect being a serious criminal violation. Maybe you see his statements differently?
 

her209

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Why do cops get special privileges that the rest of the populace doesn't get?