New York To Ban Sugary Drinks Over 16 Oz - Update - Stopped by courts 3/11

[cybrsage]

No more super-sized Cokes. Forget about stomach-busting 64-ounce sodas at KFC. Even 20-ounce Snapples are on Mayor Bloomberg’s latest heath-conscious hit list.

New York City plans to ban the sale of large sodas and other sugary drinks in an effort to combat obesity.

The proposed first-in-the-nation ban would impose a 16-ounce limit on the size of sweetened drinks sold at restaurants, movie theaters, sports venues and street carts. It would apply to bottled drinks as well as fountain sodas.

The ban, which could take effect as soon as March, wouldn't apply to diet sodas, fruit juices, dairy-based drinks or alcoholic beverages.

Mayor Michael Bloomberg said Wednesday that he "thinks it's what the public wants the mayor to do."[/quote]
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...s-sugary-drinks-over-16-ounces/#ixzz1wRzcfCqo

 

[cybrsage]

This is just insane, now the government is telling you how much soda you are allowed to buy at one time.

 

[PokerGuy]

Yaaaaay for the nanny state! Now telling you how much soda you can drink, how thirsty you should be, what you should drink etc. Surely, the state should also tell you how much to eat, what to eat, when to eat it and how. 8 oz steak? No, a nice 6 oz one is plenty for anyone comrade.

Sad that we've come to this point, and the people just accept it.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Fine by me....

1 - I don't live there and truly have no desire to go back.

2 - I don't drink sugary drinks

 

[nehalem256]

Isnt this a violation of the right to privacy. My body, my choice and all that. Or does that only apply to abortions?

 

[PokerGuy]

Fine by me....

1 - I don't live there and truly have no desire to go back.

2 - I don't drink sugary drinks

I don't live there and generally don't drink sugary drinks either, but that's not really the point. If people blindly accept that government should regulate every minute aspect of their lives, that bodes very badly for having any kind of freedom left.

 

[dank69]

The 'Wow...' is supposed to go in your second post.

 

[nehalem256]

This is just insane, now the government is telling you how much soda you are allowed to buy at one time.

Well technically couldnt you just order 4 16oz sodas too. And then KFC could provide a nice carrying case...

Phew, my thirst can still be quenched :awe:

 

[Orignal Earl]

Sad that we've come to this point, and the people just accept it.

Do you read this board?
There's is going to be a lot of geeks horrified and posting about this today

 

[Ninjahedge]

Hmmm....

The first 4 posters....

Cybr
Londo
nehalem
PokerGuy

I ain't gonna reply.....oops.

 

[dank69]

Well technically couldnt you just order 4 16oz sodas too. And then KFC could provide a nice carrying case...

Phew, my thirst can still be quenched :awe:

Yeah, I don't really like laws that aren't well thought out. Restaurants will just sell value meals with varying quantities of 16oz sodas. All of a sudden, minivans with 27 cup holders make perfect sense.

 

[cybrsage]

The 'Wow...' is supposed to go in your second post.

Darn it, you are right.

Epic Fail on my part.

 

[nehalem256]

Yeah, I don't really like laws that aren't well thought out. Restaurants will just sell value meals with varying quantities of 16oz sodas. All of a sudden, minivans with 27 cup holders make perfect sense.

But think of the stimulative effect on the economy.

Cup makers will sell more cups. Restaurants will have to buy more dispensers to fill up multiple cups at once.

People will have to buy new minivans with more cup holders.

Business will spring up to retrofit old vehicles with more cup holders.

Recession will be a distant memory

 

[Atreus21]

Stupid morons.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

I don't live there and generally don't drink sugary drinks either, but that's not really the point. If people blindly accept that government should regulate every minute aspect of their lives, that bodes very badly for having any kind of freedom left.

Exactly.

 

[ShawnD1]

Does anyone actually buy 64 oz drinks? I would need to piss like every 5 minutes if I tried drinking that.

 

[nehalem256]

Does anyone actually buy 64 oz drinks? I would need to piss like every 5 minutes if I tried drinking that.

I would say the larger issue is that 64oz is basically 2 liters... it seems like an awfully unwieldy container to try drink out of. On the plus side every sip is basically a mini-workout for your arms.

 

[jackstar7]

Reason article on obesity

Well. Like the cavalry riding to the rescue, the Institute of Medicine has just unleashed a report – 478 pages, corpulent in its own right – addressing the topic. It advances the notion that obesity is not an individual shortcoming requiring voluntary personal reformation, but a societal problem requiring compulsory systemic change. So in addition to exposing what it calls “obesogenic environmental forces,” the IOM proposes a wide range of government policies to combat them, from the sensible (provide healthy food in the public schools) to the seriously alarming (let government dictate the recipes for commercial foods).

 

[fskimospy]

While drinking 64oz of soda is a horrifyingly bad health decision, this is not a good answer to it. I'm a much bigger fan of the calorie posting requirements and things like that.

 

[FerrelGeek]

Why don't you tell us your opinion on the topic at hand, rather than the responders? Are you in favor of this? Do you like the .gov telling you how much of something you can have? Do you think this is intrusive? Do you like the idea as you think you're so much more evolved than the masses that people like you deserve to tell the commoners what they need?

Hmmm....

The first 4 posters....

Cybr
Londo
nehalem
PokerGuy

I ain't gonna reply.....oops.

 

[FerrelGeek]

While drinking 64oz of soda is a horrifyingly bad health decision, this is not a good answer to it. I'm a much bigger fan of the calorie posting requirements and things like that.

I can get behind ths.

 

[Craig234]

People react badly to change. I suspect this is an effective health measure, which of course will complete our becoming Maoist China.

I can imaging the horror of the posters here to the 'war on tobacco', if they weren't already accustomed to it - if the US were just now introducing 'not allowing television ads for tobacco products', if the measures to remove (often sponsored by cigarette companies) smoking from television shows were just now being made - we'd hear anguished screams about the 'end of free speech and freedom and capitalism', how the only legitimate measure is an information sheet (not rquired to be on the cigarettes).

Yet, when a large majority of the American people smoked - and such 'information' did little for years to counter the advertising - those measures were effective.

And freedom survived in this country.

People don't like to admit human nature. There's a reason advertisers say, 'SHOW THEM USING THE PRODUCT IN THE AD'. Show the drink being drunk, the food being eaten, and the smile by the person after doing so - and why the war on tobacco banned showing the smoking of cigarettes even if people held them in their hand. It's a sort of monkey-like 'people see the behavior and mimic' fact of human nature the ideologues claiming 'just give people some information' don't want to admit about people.

That yes, seeing a pretty girl next to a beer is what actually makes people buy the beer.

Their ideology doesn't do almost anything to address the problems. But their good little ideologues and think blaming the people is adequate as a solution.

Cue the slippery slope fallacies by these people when any effective measures are done, however actually limited they are.

Save234

 

[airdata]

Glad some of us in P&N who can't agree on most things can agree stuff like this is simply retarded.

I bet vendors love the idea though. Means they could stand to sell more drinks.

 

[BoberFett]

Thanks for confirming the totalitarian tendencies of progressives Craig. It's a good reminder of why you and your pathetic bunch of closet fascists are a fringe group.

 

[Ninjahedge]

Stupid morons.

Redundant.