this is correct. i'm sure all of us are guilty of this though. it would suck for them to come back in the future and demand it. i hope, if they do this, they offer some sort of amnesty first.
Difference is the mob "smuggled" across state lines in order to sell them for a profit, not for personal use.
This whole scenario is ridiculous and I'm surprised (or mabey not taking into account the members we have here) that people arn't more outraged than they are. I think most of you fail to see the implications of the states actions. I think much of that blindness has to do with the fact that it's a "sin tax" and most of you upstanding moral warriors don't have a problem with imposing their will on others.
The issue instantly transcends from a "smoking issue" to a unfair taxation issue. We will see how these tax bills pan out in court.
I love crazy high NY cig taxes. That, combined with the new no smoking in bars has led to a huge decrease in smokers, according to studies done.
We got nabbed on this buying furniture. out of state to FL Apparently FL checks/tracks the delivery companies manifests very closely now. Even though the delivery company was a different company than the purchasing company. We got a letter about 4-5mo's afterwords asking us to submit our sales tax or proof we paid sales tax in the other state (which we didn't). End result we paid up.
Yeah, it was even a question on TaxCut last year (or perhaps TurboTax, or both). There were quite a few threads here last year bitching about how NY was especially big on wanting taxes from online purchases.
I wonder thought if there ever will be a huge attempt to collect these taxes. IMO, it would be a significant blow to online purchases.
Do you know if that only deals with mail order/internet purchases or? I know when I lived back in Spokane, Wa (which borders right on Idaho) people were driving to Idaho to purchase cigs from state run stores or reservation smoke shops. The Washington State Patrol decided to stop people driving back in from Stateline to charge them with tax evasion. About a year later the state supreme court threw it out saying it was unconstitutional. Of course now I don't recall if the searchers were unconstitutional or the having to pay tax fines.
I'd guess the searches were unconstitutional. In the case of furniture above, we could have chosen not to pay the tax... and I'm guessing the state would either have to get the records from the company we purchased it from (which may or may not be legal) or they may be able to pull some crap, like finding what the typical retail price is and charge us tax + fines back on that. In any case, legal or not, fighting it would cost more money than paying what you legally owe.
As said above, just because most folks do not pay the use tax, does not mean it isn't the law. I think it sucks that they enforce it. Also sneaky that they are cross referencing the shipping manifests with delivery recipients and then reporting it to the department of revenue, probably all hinged around the DOS Patriot Act provisions too. How long until they tap into FEDEX / UPS / USPS db's and require declarations on all shipments in/out of states... like customs... I see that coming down the road.
At least we don't have to pay state income tax here in FL...
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Like as mentioned, if Newegg crumbled under pressure and released their purchase records a WHOLE LOT of individual comsumers and businesses would be in deep doodoo over unreported purchases.
Or, how about Dell Home purchases on PC's and accessories?
Or, how about Dell Home purchases on PC's and accessories?
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100% agree with you. This is a huge, huge deal. How many of us have spent thousands of dollars at Newegg or Dell per year and haven't paid a cent in taxes? The people who do not see a huge problem with this are naive at best.
Joe Schmo who spent $10,000 at Newegg in NY now has to cough up another $850+ for NYS sales tax. Not to mention all the people who buy from Amazon.com and everywhere else.
And then how far back are they going to go? Hell could they hit us for all our internet purchases in the last 8+ years? If they do, people would be put thousands of dollars in the hole.
I think what is being so sorely missed here is why they are going after these taxes, because their budgets are so enervated as it is. Perhaps if people spent more time being concerned with how the federal and state budgets are set, the average citizen would be able to avoid more taxes (which are already law mind you, just are rarely paid. The States are simply following laws already in place)
Next time we should think before dropping billions of dollars on worthless federal contracts, corporate welfare for big businesses, propaganda programs etc... and then make a fuss when our tax money is spent in ways that benefit well-off corporations and indivduals rather than it costing a few more bucks to inhale tar.
Next time we should think before dropping billions of dollars on worthless federal contracts, corporate welfare for big businesses, propaganda programs etc... and then make a fuss when our tax money is spent in ways that benefit well-off corporations and indivduals rather than it costing a few more bucks to inhale tar.
God forbid we impose logic and rational thinking on the public. Jesus, along with the constitution state we should be stupid and closeminded! Rah Rah Rah
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