New York coming through. Trump and Trump Organization crimes now being investigated.

Hayabusa Rider

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NEW YORK (AP) — New York's attorney general has opened a civil investigation into President Donald Trump's business dealings, taking action after his former lawyer told Congress he exaggerated his wealth to obtain loans.
A person familiar with the inquiry said Attorney General Letitia Jamesissued subpoenas Monday to Deutsche Bank and Investors Bank seeking records related to four Trump real estate projects and his failed 2014 bid to buy the NFL's Buffalo Bills.

The person wasn't authorized to discuss the matter publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity. The New York Times first reported the subpoenas.
Trump's former lawyer, Michael Cohen, told Congress in late February that Trump exaggerated his wealth on financial statements provided to Deutsche Bank when he was trying to obtain financing to buy the Bills. He told a House committee it was common for Trump to overstate his wealth when dealing with the news media or banks, but understate it when it came time to pay his taxes.


Messages left with the banks and the Trump Organization were not immediately returned.

The subpoenas issued by the attorney general seek loan applications, as well as mortgages, credit lines and other documents related to the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C., buildings in Chicago and New York and a golf course in the Miami area.

James, a Democrat newly elected to office, pledged to look into Trump's business practices, saying after her victory last November that she'd be "shining a bright light into every dark corner of his real estate dealings and every dealing."

Trump has complained that James is waging a politically motivated vendetta against him. Her office is also overseeing a lawsuit against a Trump charitable foundation. James' predecessors sued Trump over the operations of Trump University, his real estate school.

Previously, a different New York state agency, which regulates insurance companies, launched an inquiry into Cohen's allegations that Trump also misled insurance companies about his financial worth.

Trump has said Cohen is lying to try to get out of a prison sentence for tax evasion, campaign finance violations, making false statements to banks and lying to Congress.





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As might be expected the civil aspects will be handled first and the financial penalties are enough to bust Trump down to Paul Manafort level millionaire. Then criminal proceedings follow and if found guilty Trump is not getting a break like Manafort. NY doesn't give a crap about Trump's money or status. They'll wait until Trump is out of power and then can show up and have him arrested as he leaves the WH on an extradition order.

Good riddance
 

woolfe9998

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In order to prove that he overstated his wealth on loan applications, they need proof of his actual wealth, right? Meaning they'd need something like his tax returns?
 

hal2kilo

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An outlined article

NEW YORK (AP) — New York's attorney general has opened a civil investigation into President Donald Trump's business dealings, taking action after his former lawyer told Congress he exaggerated his wealth to obtain loans.
A person familiar with the inquiry said Attorney General Letitia Jamesissued subpoenas Monday to Deutsche Bank and Investors Bank seeking records related to four Trump real estate projects and his failed 2014 bid to buy the NFL's Buffalo Bills.

The person wasn't authorized to discuss the matter publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity. The New York Times first reported the subpoenas.
Trump's former lawyer, Michael Cohen, told Congress in late February that Trump exaggerated his wealth on financial statements provided to Deutsche Bank when he was trying to obtain financing to buy the Bills. He told a House committee it was common for Trump to overstate his wealth when dealing with the news media or banks, but understate it when it came time to pay his taxes.


Messages left with the banks and the Trump Organization were not immediately returned.

The subpoenas issued by the attorney general seek loan applications, as well as mortgages, credit lines and other documents related to the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C., buildings in Chicago and New York and a golf course in the Miami area.

James, a Democrat newly elected to office, pledged to look into Trump's business practices, saying after her victory last November that she'd be "shining a bright light into every dark corner of his real estate dealings and every dealing."

Trump has complained that James is waging a politically motivated vendetta against him. Her office is also overseeing a lawsuit against a Trump charitable foundation. James' predecessors sued Trump over the operations of Trump University, his real estate school.

Previously, a different New York state agency, which regulates insurance companies, launched an inquiry into Cohen's allegations that Trump also misled insurance companies about his financial worth.

Trump has said Cohen is lying to try to get out of a prison sentence for tax evasion, campaign finance violations, making false statements to banks and lying to Congress.





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As might be expected the civil aspects will be handled first and the financial penalties are enough to bust Trump down to Paul Manafort level millionaire. Then criminal proceedings follow and if found guilty Trump is not getting a break like Manafort. NY doesn't give a crap about Trump's money or status. They'll wait until Trump is out of power and then can show up and have him arrested as he leaves the WH on an extradition order.

Good riddance
Hey look mom, no pardons available.
 

Moonbeam

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What is the big deal about Trump being a criminal. He is liked by his supporters and if they had the means and the money, they would all be criminals too. All successful people are criminals, right. I must be right....right. Right.
 

Moonbeam

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Hey look mom, no pardons available.
Somewhere there is a judge that will give him a suspended sentence for good behavior. Maniford’s judge can’t be a freak. White crime is just good business sense.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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In order to prove that he overstated his wealth on loan applications, they need proof of his actual wealth, right? Meaning they'd need something like his tax returns?
I should think they would already have his financials including tax returns. I know NY knows everything about me when I file.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Somewhere there is a judge that will give him a suspended sentence for good behavior. Maniford’s judge can’t be a freak. White crime is just good business sense.

I agree. Fortunately, we're glad to host criminals in our fine state without discrimination against old rich white guys.
 
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The Russian witch hunt continues! No collusion! No collusion! Not the puppet! Why isn't Hillary being investigated. Manafort judge even said Manafort proved there was no collusion. Fake News. Invasion on the southern hamberder.
 

skull

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I should think they would already have his financials including tax returns. I know NY knows everything about me when I file.
New York state income tax division would but that doesn't mean its gets shared with every department in the state.
 

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Trump has said Cohen is lying to try to get out of a prison sentence for tax evasion, campaign finance violations, making false statements to banks and lying to Congress.
Makes a ton of sense. Lie to Congress to avoid prison time for.... crimes you've already plead guilty to and have already been sentenced...
 
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The Russian witch hunt continues! No collusion! No collusion! Not the puppet! Why isn't Hillary being investigated. Manafort judge even said Manafort proved there was no collusion. Fake News. Invasion on the southern hamberder.
points for getting everything so succinctly in one post :thumbsup:
 

ondma

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What is the big deal about Trump being a criminal. He is liked by his supporters and if they had the means and the money, they would all be criminals too. All successful people are criminals, right. I must be right....right. Right.
Well, sometimes you do "overstate" things, out of satire, I assume. However, your second sentence is eerily close to the truth. As long as he hits the hot buttons for his base (abortion, gun control, immigration, cut taxes for the rich), I dont think his base really cares what else he does.
 

Moonbeam

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Well, sometimes you do "overstate" things, out of satire, I assume. However, your second sentence is eerily close to the truth. As long as he hits the hot buttons for his base (abortion, gun control, immigration, cut taxes for the rich), I dont think his base really cares what else he does.
Because the truth is they are as morally bankrupt as he is. When you are threatened as a child by being rejected for being evil, and not for the behavior itself, you learn to hate yourself, not evil. In this way your only salvation lies in pretending not to be what you feel. It then becomes necessary to find an outlet for that self contempt by ascribing what is unconsciously felt about one’s self onto others. By this means the contemptuous become contemptible. To awaken is to forgive.
 

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