New York city - More Black Babies Killed by Abortion Than Born

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Texashiker

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SheHateMe

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You do realize that an Abortion doesn't prevent you from ever carrying a child again, right?

Are you really trying to suggest that Black women aborting their children is some type of Eugenics plot?
 

bshole

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You do realize that an Abortion doesn't prevent you from ever carrying a child again, right?

Are you really trying to suggest that Black women aborting their children is some type of Eugenics plot?

Yea, I was having a real difficult time seeing what his point was. Is there a conspiracy among blacks to kill their own unwanted fetuses? Or perhaps there is a big conspiracy among whites to brainwash blacks into aborting their fetuses? TH in general has cogency issues, they happen to be particularly bad in this thread.
 
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Texashiker

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Are you really trying to suggest that Black women aborting their children is some type of Eugenics plot?

Not that minorities are part of the plot, but that minorities have fallen for the plot. Society has decayed to the point where poor minority children are better off being aborted than born.

Just as with the eugenics program society will make an excuse why those children should not be born. They will end up on welfare, they will get into drugs, they will bog the system down.

Excuses that were used to justify the eugenics program of the 20th century are being used in this thread.
 

bshole

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Not that minorities are part of the plot, but that minorities have fallen for the plot. Society has decayed to the point where poor minority children are better off being aborted than born.

Don't you mean that conservatives have gnawed at the societal safety nets so long and so hard that poor minority children are better off being aborted than born?
 

Texashiker

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Don't you mean that conservatives have gnawed at the societal safety nets so long and so hard that poor minority children are better off being aborted than born?

I respectfully disagree.

Welfare should not be a way of life. There are families out there who have been on welfare for generations. That kind of stuff needs to stop.
 

CitizenKain

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I respectfully disagree.

Welfare should not be a way of life. There are families out there who have been on welfare for generations. That kind of stuff needs to stop.

Well, maybe the R's could stop gutting social programs so people can.
 

bradly1101

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www.bradlygsmith.org
Welfare: statutory procedure or social effort designed to promote the basic physical and material well-being of people in need

Oh the horror. It's hard to get ahead in this country, and there are way more available people for the amount of good jobs we have.

What should we do? Let them starve? Bring back soup lines and devastating poverty? At one time we thought we were better than that and put an end to it.
 

Thebobo

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Not that minorities are part of the plot, but that minorities have fallen for the plot. Society has decayed to the point where poor minority children are better off being aborted than born.

Just as with the eugenics program society will make an excuse why those children should not be born. They will end up on welfare, they will get into drugs, they will bog the system down.

Excuses that were used to justify the eugenics program of the 20th century are being used in this thread.

So you believe the government has some hands in this? And or that there is a conspiracy and that is to fool black women into abortions for whatever reasons? That the these conspirators are covering up a eugenics program?

























Dude :whiste:
 

hans030390

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If financial impact was the primary reason for ending the pregnancy, is there more we as a society can do to help minorities? Maybe provide better housing than "the projects", free college education, free transportation,,,?

Yes. That's called being a liberal. (Those ideas might even be...socialistic! ZOMG!)

What makes you think a low income mother is going to climb the economic ladder by having an abortion?

But on the other hand, with the right support system a single mother with a couple of children will get a free college education. And with that education she will be able to break the chains of poverty.

Because children are extremely expensive and a huge financial setback, especially for the poor?

You can just as easily make the argument that it is more responsible to not raise a child in a poor environment (where they'll likely struggle) AND to avoid having to receive further support from tax payers (even if some are more than happy to share their wealth and help).

Education gives the child a change to get out of poverty, assuming they know how to get that support and have the right motivation in the first place. And the intellectual capabilities. The mother will likely remain poor, maybe even poorer if they have to help fund further education (maybe folks do lie in that zone where they receive SOME support but ultimately end up in worse financial shape because they still have to contribute a large chunk).

Abortion is class warfare on the poor. Instead of forced eugenics, just convince poor minorities it is their right to have an abortion.

You understand that many (most?) that support a women's right to choose what to do with a fetus (i.e. not a child) would MUCH prefer to see lower abortion rates due to a much, much better social support system, right? For some odd reason, it's as though you think we are encouraging people to get abortions. That's like saying other encourage people to be gay just because they think gay people should have equal rights and freedoms as everyone else. For now, sometimes abortion IS the most responsible, sensible action to take (considering economic situation, physical and mental health in the long run, etc.).
 

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The black genocide that has been perpetrated by the networks that work around CPS and front ops such as Planned Parenthood and other pro-abortion groups.

The pro-abortionists who are not directly involved are simply dumb followers who really believe that government is there to help protect their rights.

This is not about rights at all, they've spinned it into a rights debate falsely, basically it's a fight for a license to kill, and many pro-abortion people support abortion up to 3 years of age, this is not a typo, 3 years of age, jokingly "4th trimester abortion", post-birth abortion, or in other words murder.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laFAMMq2w8s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDtCaKdb9II
 

Texashiker

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Because children are extremely expensive and a huge financial setback, especially for the poor?

Yes, children are expensive. Even when they are grown and moved out they still need help from time to time.

It is called taking responsibility for your actions.


You understand that many (most?) that support a women's right to choose what to do with a fetus (i.e. not a child) would MUCH prefer to see lower abortion rates due to a much, much better social support system, right?

You have been lied to and you have believed the lie.

http://www.lifesitenews.com/former-...t-was-a-money-grubbing-evil-very-sad-sad.html

But Anderson quickly abandoned her illusions of safety once she began work at Planned Parenthood. “I started feeling uneasy working there when people came from national in New York City to teach us the conscious sedation process,” Anderson told the paper. “It was disgusting. These two ladies had this chant they would do: ‘Abortion all the time!’ I thought, ‘I’ve got to get out of here.’ That was about six to eight months after I started.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...parenthood-cranks-up-abortion-mills/?page=all

They haven’t been disappointed. In 2011, government subsidies to Planned Parenthood reached an all-time high, with the abortion provider receiving a whopping $542 million in taxpayer funding — all while ending a record number of lives — 333,964.

It is equally disturbing that while Planned Parenthood is performing a record number of abortions, their cancer screenings have dropped by 29 percent, and contraceptive services by 12 percent over the past three years.


Abortions are up, and contraceptive services are down by 12 percent.

If you "really" believed planned parenthood wanted to do less abortions, shouldn't contraceptive services be up instead of down?
 

CitizenKain

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Typical liberal, ignore the facts when they are right in front of you.

Its from a site called lifesitenews, so there is no chance of it being remotely true.

Are we still supposed to take responsibility for your idiot stepdaughter not figuring out how birth control works? Or is the only moral birth control the one that directly affects you.
 

Texashiker

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Its from a site called lifesitenews, so there is no chance of it being remotely true.

That news article was published on several other websites.

http://www.examiner.com/article/pla...-talked-to-babies-body-parts-during-abortions

http://www.catholic-sf.org/ns.php?newsid=1&id=62228

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Govern...oney-Grubbing-Evil-Very-Sad-Sad-Place-To-Work

I expect sites like huffpost and cnn to ignore news like that because it does not fit with their liberal agenda.
 

Texashiker

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Also because they are not news sites they are advocacy sites promoting pro-life. They will only tell you what you want to hear. They see one site and copy and past it to theirs, they don't have reporters out checking into a story.

How does this affect so many black children being aborted.
 

CitizenKain

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That news article was published on several other websites.

http://www.examiner.com/article/pla...-talked-to-babies-body-parts-during-abortions

http://www.catholic-sf.org/ns.php?newsid=1&id=62228

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Govern...oney-Grubbing-Evil-Very-Sad-Sad-Place-To-Work

I expect sites like huffpost and cnn to ignore news like that because it does not fit with their liberal agenda.

No, they ignore it because its made up fantasy by someone with an agenda to push and even CNN and Huffpo has some standards.
 

Thebobo

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Ok so you want to do something? Posting here wont do anything other then raise you blood pressure stress you out and shorten your life. That not healthy.

I would suggest you move to that area run for local office and start a grass root campaign with pregnant black women (you can help out in that matter) to get elected. Then once in office you can eliminate the forcing of abortions for black women who don't want them.