New Xbox could be in development.

[JackSpadesSI]

Typical elitist garbage. Anyone who thinks a P4 or Athlon64 cannot handle office work and business networking at breakneck speeds is completely lost.

Oh please. I'm certainly no PC elitist, but saying a P4 can do anything at "breakneck" speeds is just silly.

 

[nageov3t]

1) I've never bought a game that uses more than 2 discs on the xbox. You're reaching for an argument here. Not to mention the already stated price benefits from not including it. It seems to have worked out well for them.

Lost Odyssey on 360 is 4 disks.

I know this because I bought it when it first came out, then it sat on a shelf for 2 years... then I finally start playing it and fall in love with the game, only to get to the 4th disk to find that it's broken D: 😡

 

[jrphoenix]

Lost Odyssey on 360 is 4 disks.

I know this because I bought it when it first came out, then it sat on a shelf for 2 years... then I finally start playing it and fall in love with the game, only to get to the 4th disk to find that it's broken D: 😡

Me too! I bought a used copy form gamestop and 45 hours in found out disk 4 was unreadable. I brought the 4th disc back (after a year from purchase date) and they gave me a replacement. I don't have that problem now because about 2 1/2 years ago I switched to only buying new games. Great game and 60 hours (15 hours each disc)... I had no issues with the swaping.

 

[Anubis]

They're good enough for anyone. My FX-55 could fly like the wind until the day that PC died. It's tiresome to read these ridiculous statements made by PC elitists like you. The reason they are slow in their office is usually due to lack of software upkeep (too much spyware, viruses, unused & unremoved progs, etc) and, more usually, a ridiculously overloaded network that is incapable of handling the amount of traffic it is receiving.

It's just a ludicrous statement for you to make and makes you appear ignorant to people that have been around PC building circles for awhile.

its not a ridiculous statement, most of the shit i do in excel every day runs orders of magnitude faster when going from a C2D to a dual xenon work station my home computer (i7) is faster then both

no spyware, no virii, no wasted programs, with all files being stored locally. some things just require that much more processing power. If i batch process some of my stuff on my comp at my desk at work it can take hours, if i remote into the workstation downstairs it takes less then 1/2 of that, some of it is inefficient VB code but most is simply do to processing power. id actually be scared at how long it might take on a P4

 

[TheSlamma]

Just in time for Battlefield 4! Now PC gamers won't laugh at our graphics, so much.

3 months after release of the PS4 and Xbox 720 the next version of DirectX will come out and crush the visuals of console guaranteed.

 

[blckgrffn]

I play my 360 on a 100" projector screen (1080p) and the blurry, low res textures do bother the crap out of me. I am considering hauling a PC in there for playing games. I'd be delighted if we saw a refresh for xmas 2012... I figure the Kinect bought the 360 at least two more years of life, even though it is hamstrung by the processing power of the 360.

Considering I play games on my rig on a 20" 1080p LCD... and the 360 on the 100" screen... it would make way more sense to flip those around, wouldn't it?

Too bad I use my PC for so much more than gaming 🙁

*Single core general purpose PCs are fast becoming nearly useless. The internet killed them. If you think a P4 is fast enough, try and use it. Its like firing up a netbook...*

 

[Anneka]

3 months after release of the PS4 and Xbox 720 the next version of DirectX will come out and crush the visuals of console guaranteed.

Yeah but again the argue will begun. Will would i pay a tone of money on upgrading my PC again and again for games to work and don't just buy a console that will work for 3-4 years (if you do the math you will discover the PC components are much more expensive per total sum).

 

[PimpJuice]

3 months after release of the PS4 and Xbox 720 the next version of DirectX will come out and crush the visuals of console guaranteed.

.....and pc fanboys will rejoice, while continuing to whine that people still prefer to play on consoles.....

the saga continues...

 

[chalmers]

.....and pc fanboys will rejoice, while continuing to whine that people still prefer to play on consoles.....

the saga continues...

Or you could just not worry what people on the internet think and do whatever you want with your life, considering you're never going to meet them.

 

[JTsyo]

3 months after release of the PS4 and Xbox 720 the next version of DirectX will come out and crush the visuals of console guaranteed.

When consoles come out they aren't the equivalent of the high end computers of the time. About the same power as higher than average gaming machine.
I don't think the consoles have be maxed out, especially the PS3. Though I guess the 360 is a bit older but it does hold up. I don't think the console makers are that interested in competing with the PC, different markets.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Have the developers capped out the current technology?

 

[PimpJuice]

Or you could just not worry what people on the internet think and do whatever you want with your life, considering you're never going to meet them.

that makes no sense in context to my post......

 

[SMOGZINN]

I would say at least 2 years (probably 3) till the next consoles come out. If we were expecting them any sooner we would already see the marketing hype starting. I think I read an article about the xbox360 everyday for a year before we even saw the first demonstration model.

Also, I doubt that the next generation will be as powerful as the last generation was in relation to the PC's of the time. What I mean is that while the xbox360 was about as powerful as a high-average gaming PC, the next generation will be more along the lines of a below-average gaming PC. The reason for this is that the console only needs to push 1080p and the midrange video cards of this generation can already do that, by the time the next generation of consoles come out that will be achievable with low end video cards. While I am sure they will all come with blu-ray drives, I think the real emphasis will be on downloadable content.
The big toss up is going to be 3D gaming. If that gets some traction in the next year or so the console makers will make a push for 3D and that will require a beefing up of specs, although I'm sure that even the low to mid-range videocards will be able to handle that at 1080p by then. If it is the main thrust of the next generation, which it looks like it will, then personally I will be out of the market for consoles. I don’t do well with 3D.

 

[BD2003]

I would say at least 2 years (probably 3) till the next consoles come out. If we were expecting them any sooner we would already see the marketing hype starting. I think I read an article about the xbox360 everyday for a year before we even saw the first demonstration model.

Also, I doubt that the next generation will be as powerful as the last generation was in relation to the PC's of the time. What I mean is that while the xbox360 was about as powerful as a high-average gaming PC, the next generation will be more along the lines of a below-average gaming PC. The reason for this is that the console only needs to push 1080p and the midrange video cards of this generation can already do that, by the time the next generation of consoles come out that will be achievable with low end video cards. While I am sure they will all come with blu-ray drives, I think the real emphasis will be on downloadable content.
The big toss up is going to be 3D gaming. If that gets some traction in the next year or so the console makers will make a push for 3D and that will require a beefing up of specs, although I'm sure that even the low to mid-range videocards will be able to handle that at 1080p by then. If it is the main thrust of the next generation, which it looks like it will, then personally I will be out of the market for consoles. I don’t do well with 3D.

The next consoles cant be 3D in 1080p. HDMI can currently only support 24hz in 1080p 3D, thats just not fast enough. The choice will be 720p/3D vs 1080p/2D for the next gen. This should take care of a large part of the performance gap.

It remains to be seen what the performance of the consoles will be. My guess is that nintendo will keep scraping the bottom of the barrel with the low end, just as they did with the Wii and the 3DS. Sony will probably still try to capture the high end, or at least try and be on top - the NGP shows theyre all about performance even when its arguably not needed. I think microsoft will tend to follow nintendos lead given how theyre trying to capture the family market with kinect, and not upgrade as much as they could, but it'd be suicide if they werent competitive with sony. The gamecube/xbox/ps2 gen had three systems on nearly equal footing, but this gen is far more divergent. The next may be even more so.

Anything can happen though. Theres nothing to say the consoles will come out in sync as they did last time. Someone (particularly MS) could create a platform with rolling upgrades on a constant basis like apple and iOS, getting more powerful each year while maintaining compatibility a few years back. Or they can all be ultra conservative, push out minor upgrades like nintendo with the Wii. Or they could push out super powerful loss leaders. Apple might even enter the home console market in force with the apple TV - those SoCs already blow away the Wii, the games are cheap, and people really, really like apple right now.

This seems like the year of portables, but Ill be shocked if theres not at least one new console from a major player by holiday 2012.