New Workstation for Photoshop?

kirkdickinson

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I am in charge of the IT for a small family owned company. I usually build computers for the users that are best bang for the buck. Business type computers, not graphics workstations. For myself I use Photoshop, InDesign, Illustrator, Sony Vegas, Premiere, etc... Since it takes a while to set up a computer, I don't like to do it often and when I build one for myself, I try to go bleeding edge so I don't have to do it again.

Last time, I built myself a workstation was in the spring of 2012. I used an Intel Core i7-3930K (hex core), 16GB DDR3, 256 EVO Pro boot, watercooled, etc.... I put in a 4 bay hotswap in the front of the case and started with 1-TB drives but now have 4TB & 6 TB drives. This system has worked fairly well for 5+ years except for the week when it tried to upgrade automatically to Win10 and wouldn't boot at all. I had to restore my boot drive from an image and have kept Win 7.

My computer is starting to drag. I have so many programs that I have installed and uninstalled, and just basic electronic sludge. I know I could wipe it and reinstall it would run fast again. The problem is that it takes me a week to get a new computer set up like I need. It seems that it would be better to do that on new hardware and have another 4-5 years without redoing it.

I figured I would start with the CPU that I wanted and work out from there for a system. My current i7-3930K has a passmark score of 12024 and a single thread score of 1936. These scores are still competitive with stuff that is brand new right now. Since Photoshop performs best on one or 2 fast cores better than multiple slower cores, I have been looking through the charts for a CPU that has high single thread score.

I found i7-7700K (quad) which has 12106 total and 2581 single. This is basically a wash in the total score and about a 33% jump in single thread.

Is this really going to be a much faster computer? I know I can use faster SSD now with M.2 and I can add a second SSD for Photoshop cache etc... But am I really going to have that much faster?

Looking at the Passmark scores for CPU and just going up until the price was too much to bear, I found this one: i7-7820X (octa) which has 18739 total and 2432 single. Single score is really close to the 7770K, and the total is a lot more.

Am I putting too much importance in the CPU Passmark? Are there motherboard or chipset improvements in the last 5 years that will make a significant speed increase?

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ultimatebob

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Yeah, you're not going to get much of a performance boost from what you have now unless you get something crazy like a 16 Core AMD Threadripper system. I'd probably just reformat the system you have now and put a fresh install of Windows 10 on there.
 
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kirkdickinson

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Yeah, you're not going to get much of a performance boost from what you have now unless you get something crazy like a 16 Core AMD Threadripper system. I'd probably just reformat the system you have now and put a fresh install of Windows 10 on there.

That is what I keep thinking.

This old computer I am currently using has a 256GBSSD boot drive and a 500GB Program drive, I forced windows to install all the programs on another drive. I could drop some money and get a 1TB Samsung 850 PRO drive and set this up dual boot and reinstall my OS and programs on the new drive as I have time and when the transition is over, make the 256 into a cache drive for Lightroom/Photoshop/Bridge/Vegas, etc... It would probably be a screaming fast computer and wouldn't cost anymore than the SSD and about 30 hours of labor.

The current motherboard is an ASUS Sabertooth x79 it has PCI express slots. Would there be any memory that could plug into it that might be faster than SATA? Probaly not on a 5 year old Mobo.

I noticed that this mobo has quad channel memory and most of the new boards that I have looked at only have dual channel. I could jump from 16 to 32GB of Ram on this board.
 

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Yeah, you're not going to get much of a performance boost from what you have now
Agreed...
unless you get something crazy like a 16 Core AMD Threadripper system.
Disagreed. For Photoshop, single-thread or a few threads matters more than more cores. At least for the last benchmarks I saw. It's just that a 33% improvement isn't very significant for the cost.
I know I can use faster SSD now with M.2
That seems like a good step to take. You'd probably need an M.2 to PCIe adapter. They're not expensive.

I noticed that this mobo has quad channel memory and most of the new boards that I have looked at only have dual channel. I could jump from 16 to 32GB of Ram on this board.
More RAM would definitely help you too, but there's the eternal problem of whether buying old RAM technology is wasting money. Not to mention RAM in general is expensive lately. Maybe try Ebay?
 
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ultimatebob

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Agreed...

Disagreed. For Photoshop, single-thread or a few threads matters more than more cores. At least for the last benchmarks I saw. It's just that a 33% improvement isn't very significant for the cost.

You would think that future versions of Photoshop will be better optimized for multiple cores, but there is no rush to upgrade now.
 

kirkdickinson

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Playing with PC Part Picker. Found that the i7-8700K has the highest single thread rating on all of passmark. 2739 and it has a total score of 16413. That is way up there on the list. Gotta get into an i9 probably to do better with Photoshop, and then I am not even sure. No single thread that high with i9 for more than double the cost.


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I will need to pick up a hot box for the front of the computer to swap in and out all my SATA drives.

I may just do this.