New way to trip-up your rebates

Gustavus

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This post properly belongs in the Hot Deals forum since virtually every Hot Deal depends on one or more rebates, but the rules there preclude even relevant posts that aren't themselves hot deals so I am posting it here.
Rebate companies have added a new twist to the "conditions" for a valid rebate submission.

For some time they have been making the window in which the rebate had to be mailed narrower which increased the chances that a customer wouldn't be vigilant enough to mail in his rebate on time. This was usually stated in terms like the envelope must be postmarked no more than 14 days after the the end of the promotion period -- or sometimes of the date shown on the sales receipt. I just lost out on a $30 rebate because I thought the 14 day period was from the end of the promotion and it was from the date on the sales slip and I had bought the item at the very beginning of a week long promotion. My experience had been that with some fair frequency they would say the postmark on the submission was after the period ended even if I had been careful to mail it in well in advance of the end of the period. For that reason I began buying a Certificate of Mailing (which costs 75 cents) that usually, but not always, sufficed to win the dispute.

The new twist which I will quote from one of the rebate forms from Parego in Coppell, Texas says;

"Mailing envelopes must be postmarked within 14 days of the close of the promotion and must be received within 7 days of that date".

In other words, they can always say the submission took 8 days to get to them even if you have proof that it was mailed on time. You might think that purchasing a signed receipt for delivery would be a guarantee, but I did that for one large rebate and the "delivery" date was over two weeks from the postmark date -- suggesting that they may well let mail accumulate before accepting and signing for it.

I thought it worth posting this since so many of us take advantage of rebates and this fine print may have escaped some of you.
 

dcdomain

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%&U@)*#@ I hate rebates. I have had mixed results from them, and what really pissed me off was the $50 one from Maxtor for the ata100 controller card. I sent it in and had EVERYTHING they asked for, even the photocopies show everything, but somehow, when they got it they stated that my damn UPC from the harddrive was missing. WTF?

Anyway, I generally just mail them off and don't give them a second though. If they actually come through, I'll take it as a Christmas present or something, if not, I never expected them to. I don't know what companies are thinking with these stupid rebates. When I see an advertisement with the word rebates on them, I don't look at the after rebate price, I look at the before rebate price. To me, rebates don't entice me at all...
 

vi edit

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Registered mail is your friend :)

They have to sign for it when they get it ;)
 

kaiotes

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have to agree w/ dc
rebates suck, why can't they just screw the rebate and actually lower the price.
not like they will make money off of our money as in the interest.
they will in turn turn to special agency that handle rebates, more money for 'em to spend.
 

tigerbait

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dcdomain, maxtor did the same thing to my roommate. I watched him put everything in the envelope and mail, only to receive a postcard 6 weeks later saying no UPC. He never followed up on it, though. Did you try to call them?
 

CyberTiger

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The reason some companies offer rebates is most people don't bother (or forget) to mail in the rebates which means profit for the company.
Another reason is that some companies won't even honor it unless you threaten to take legal action.
 

Lanyap

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Gus,

Thanks for the heads up. I agree with you that they should let rebate problems be discussed on Hot Deals forum. Most Hot Dealers do not read OT because there is too much not related information in it.

I send in a lot of rebates and I am very careful about reading all of the fine print and following the rules, but, I had not noticed that new wrinkle. There is no way they can enforce that new rule because it takes 3-4 days for them to receive the mail at their post office box and then it takes them at least a week to sort it out, open it, in/validate it and input it into the computer.

The first time they try that with me I will file a complaint with the FTC, the state attorney general and the retail company that used them. I have been documenting all of my rebate info for the last two years and I have been tempted to go ahead and file a complaint with the FTC because many of the rebate houses are not honoring the turnaround timeframe specified on the rebate coupon. RebatesHQ/Parago is almost always late sending the rebates out. I have to call them quite often to prod them. I called them the other day about a rebate that was 4 weeks overdue and they said they would cut the check on 4/12. I told them that was unacceptable since it would be the end of April before I received the check. They relented and said they would expidite and get it to me in 7-10 days. Ha.

They recently burned me on the $50 Maxtor ATA100 card and the Staples $30 Memorex CDROM rebates. I resolved both of them but had to spend a lot of time and effort.

For those of you who had problems with the Maxtor $50 ATA100 card rebate, there were two promotion periods setup by Maxtor. During the first period from 9/2000 to 1/2001 you had to purchase the card with a 40GB or larger Maxtor hard drive. For the second period from 12/2000 to 3/2001 you could buy any size drive as long as it was a retail kit starting with a specific model number which almost all retail kits qualified. So, when they said they did not get the UPC (like they did with me and many others) the computer was telling them they needed a 40GB HD UPC. Here is a copy of the letter I sent to them:

To Parago/RebatesHQ:

Attached is the documentation you requested to honor my $50 rebate for the Maxtor Ultra ATA100 PCI Card. The original rebate information that I mailed to you on February 17, 2001 was valid and should have been honored by Parago/RebatesHQ. Hopefully by the time you receive my information your computers will have been updated and your customer service representatives made aware of this error.

Please let me explain. Maxtor has a rebate promotion containing two ?periods? when you purchase their Maxtor Ultra ATA100 PCI card and selected Maxtor hard drives. Period 1 from September 24, 2000 until January 27, 2001 required that a Maxtor 40GB or larger hard drive also be purchased. Period 2 from December 30, 2000 until March 31, 2001 does not have a hard drive size requirement. My rebate request is for promotion period 2. Both use the same Parago promotion code 00-21460 which is probably what caused this problem. Parago is apparently invalidating rebate requests for period 2 if people are not purchasing the 40GB or larger hard drives. I am aware of numerous people who have been denied and have contacted both Parago and Maxtor.

I have also attached documentation printed directly from Maxtor?s web site and contained in their promotions section that confirms the above information. I have highlighted the relevant sections. I spoke directly to the person at Maxtor who coordinates rebates on 3/7 (Linda) at 800-262-9867 who advised me that she was aware of this problem and had notified Parago the previous day of the error that was causing valid rebates to be denied. Linda also advised me that if I had trouble with Parago honoring the rebate to call her back. I have spoken to two rebateHQ customer service reps (Marsha on 3/5 and Tonya on 3/7) so far and neither seemed aware of this problem and both only wanted me to resend my rebate information.

If Parago still decides not to honor my rebate, I request that you send me notification in writing explaining why and returning all of my original documentation so that I can address this issue directly with Maxtor.



 

RossMAN

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Registered mail is your friend

You mailed it, although registered mail with signed return receipt is like $2 or $3 and some change it's worth it for me. Of course if the rebate is less than $10 I don't bother with registered mail, I just photocopy EVERYTHING, mail it off and hope for the best.

People don't realize that rebates = pain in the a$$ = cash for their pain and suffering.

Here's what I do with all rebates:
1) When you're at the store buying the merchandise, ask for a "duplicate receipt" copy just after they ring you up.
Of course if you order online you don't have this option, but you do have your receipt in digital form (your e-mail confirmation).
2) Follow the rebate stipulations meticulously (not kidding).
3) If the rebate form can be downloaded as either an .htm file or .pdf then download it immediately and store in your hard drive. Every now and then you'll find some unprepared person posting in the Hot Deals forum "can anyone PLEASE e-mail me the $20 rebate form for blah blah blah it's no longer on the web site and TODAY is the LAST DAY OF THE REBATE!!! HELP HELP HELP!!! Please!". LOL
4) Complete the rebate forms and all other documents in blue or black ink only.
5) Photocopy EVERYTHING!
6) Last but not least as vi_edit said, Registered mail is your friend.

Of course when it's comes to FOLLOWING UP on your rebate status I'm really bad because I usually end up losing the photocopied documents and the signed confirmation slip, chuckles. Hey I'm still perfecting my method.

Does anyone else have pointers to add to the above list?