New Water Loop

[Bullmecha]

I am looking into a WC Loop which contains the following items ::

http://www.jab-tech.com/Swiftech-Apogee-XT-Extreme-Performance-CPU-waterblock-pr-4568.html
http://www.jab-tech.com/Swiftech-MCP655-12-VDC-Pump-pr-2982.html
http://www.jab-tech.com/Swiftech-MCR320-QP-K-Triple-120mm-Radiator-pr-3320.html
http://www.jab-tech.com/YATE-LOON-120mm-Case-Fan-D12SL-12-pr-3009.html x3
http://www.crazypc.com/products/Caldera-4870x2-9361BK.html

I will be adding the Rad to the back of my case, should it be Pull or Push fan setup?
Any ideas for a res, tubing , additive, ETC is welcomed. Or if I happen to have bad choices, you can adjust them. Thanks in advance.

 

[aigomorla]

u need a top for that pump, to get the most out of it.
Also you have no res. Are you gonna T line?

You can kill 2 birds with one stone, with a res/top like this:
http://www.jab-tech.com/Primochill-Typhoon-III-Reservoir-System-PEC-pr-4497.html

And i would use silver barbs and go straight distilled.
http://www.jab-tech.com/Bitspower-True-Silver-G1-4-High-Flow-1-2-Barb-BP-SLWP-C01-pr-4397.html

Silver has a natural antimicrob property to it. Ive been using them, and havent had anything nasty growing in my loop for some time now.

I highly recomend u get at least 2 for your radiator, and replace the stock plastic ones.

Also if you get one of those res tops, you will need 2 more for it.
The XT with it would look nice if you were into that stuff.

Also for tubing, since its your first time, get 10-15 feet of this:
http://www.jab-tech.com/Masterkleer-Tubing-7-16-ID-5-8-OD-pr-3079.html

When you stop having the upgrade bug, and believe me, if your new, its only going to get worse from here, your loop wont be up long enough for you to merit expensive tubing yet.

You'll have too much fun tweeking, and customizing, and relooping, so stay with the cheap tubing for now, and straight distilled with silver barbs.

Once u get the hang of things, i recommend u move to primochill LRT tubing. As it has the best bend radius.

Also how are you hanging your rad?
http://www.koolance.com/water-cooling/product_info.php?product_id=829



OK i hope i didnt just break your budget.

Have your rads and fan's setup like that in koolance's pictures.
Have your fans get air from outside, and BLOW it though the rad, and to the back of your computer.

If you flip it, you will pick up heat from your PSU and throw it in your rad, which will probably make you kinda sad.

 

[Bullmecha]

I knew it was missing a few parts when I posted those so I was looking for the fill-ins like you posted.

Which would be easier for me to use at my experience level.. T or a Res? I do like the look of that Res combo

That mount is a bit ridiculous for a first timer so a Radbox for the rad and install on the back like this :
http://i290.photobucket.com/al...62/Grieve666/good1.jpg

But if the mount will provide a better amount of airflow, to keep it away from the Tower, I may get it instead of the Radbox.

And that should be as a pull thru airflow towards the back of the case? If my PSU does pull in the air from the Rad then since I have the 200 top fan and the front 120x2 it should vent it out or would that cause heat in the tower I don't need?

And will the corrosion factor be a problem with the blocks ( CPU & GPU) along with the silver barbs? Dumb questions I know, but I am breaking the ice on this lol.

 

[aigomorla]

u wont have any corrosion issues.

Silver and Copper, arent very reactive, it will happen slowly but you probably wont notice it.

As for the res combo's there great. Bleeding is easier then a Tline.
I like res's more then tlines. Tlines are a pain of the past.

And yes you always want fresh air going though your radiator. Not recycled air.

 

[Schmide]

You could possibly mount the rad like this guy did

http://www.overclock.net/attachments/water-cooling/103337d1238279653-watercooling-my-antec-case-dcp_0496.jpg

Combine that with maybe a

Swiftech MCR 320 QP-Res

Simplifying the need for a reservoir since you're mounting the radiator vertically anyways.

You may be a little wattage heavy for a single 120.3

You could add a thick 120.1 radiator in your front to make up for it. In order of density.

Black Ice SR1 120

XSPC RX120 - Single 120mm

Black Ice GTX 120 Radiator

or a bit thinner

XSPC RS120 BLACK

Swiftech 120mm Black - MCR120-QPK

I don't think you could fit a 120.2 in the front without modifications.

Edit: btw your link is broken. (google found it http://s290.photobucket.com/albums/ll262/Grieve666/?action=view&current=good1.jpg)

 

[aigomorla]

Schmide problem with a setup like that is the DVI ports in the rear.

:X

The guy doesnt have a monitor connected to it, and will realize soon he needs to space it in the rear otherwise his dvi wont fit.

Personally id say top mount it, and have the barbs hang out the rear and fall behind.
But thats up to the builder. :T

This but flipped the other way so tubes come out the rear of your computer.
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/9268/1000471zj0.jpg

Also with with bits power mounts to make it look cleaner.

 

[Bullmecha]

If I top mount the rad won't it be a mounting issue since i use the 902? the 200 fan on top would vent the hot air from the case right into the rad also.. guess you were right about the case not being water friendly Aigo.

 

[Schmide]

Schmide problem with a setup like that is the DVI ports in the rear.

The guy doesnt have a monitor connected to it, and will realize soon he needs to space it in the rear otherwise his dvi wont fit.

You do get access to one of the DVI ports you would need to get an adaptor to use the other.

 

[aigomorla]

If I top mount the rad won't it be a mounting issue since i use the 902? the 200 fan on top would vent the hot air from the case right into the rad also.. guess you were right about the case not being water friendly Aigo.

lol

you take the top featured air case, designed for air, made for air, and add water to it.

Yeah, your gonna get problems.

is it possible to flip the 200mm fan so it blows down instead of up?

 

[Bullmecha]

The fan does have the mounting screws on the bottom, inside the case so its possible to do it i think. Thinking of using it to pull air thru the rad? then it blows heat into the case, although i suppose it wouldn't be too high in temps. the 3 120's should be able to vent it out ok.

 

[Schmide]

Even with water you always follow the standard airflow pattern, in through the front/bottom, out through the back/top. Doing something different is most likely going to under perform somewhere. It may help though to order your rads, if you have more than one, such that heat out water from your chips goes to air exit back/top radiators first then bottom/front later. For the most part radiators have so much surface area a couple degrees here and there isn't going to make a major difference. Keeping the rest of your components cool, VRMs, fanless South Bridges, HD, etc should take precedence over the radiators since you have less fans in critical areas of your system.

 

[Bullmecha]

Have to look into another tower then for this WC build.. the 800d is awesome but I dont want to spend that kind of money for a case and not for the WC parts.

Starting something new is always a pain lol.