New Washington Post Poll Out

[Smaug]

The Poll

So it really doesn't look good. The only issue where Bush has a higher approval then disapproval is war on terrorism.

The dems are 18 points above in handling social security.

Here is the big one

Shares our values

Dems-47%
Republicans - 38%

And 52% think judges are just right

26% too liberal

18% too conservative

Boy do the Republicans have to turn this around, or the democrats may just completely sweep in '06.

 

[nageov3t]

pfft.

the washington post is run by a bunch of gay, liberal, commie wolves. how can we possibly take any poll they release seriously?

 

[raildogg]

Democrats won't catch up anytime soon. Mark my words. This country is increasignly becoming more and more religious and an increasing church-going population will strongly vote Republican. Latinos will increasingly vote Republican as will up and coming new successful immigrants from all over the world.

What you and other Democrats fail to understand is that the church-goers are not some religious kooks who are way out there. In fact, they are normal everyday people. The Church is increasingly becoming a place where people talk of things from politics to sports to the economy. Its sort of a community gathering where everyone meets each other and talks about life. More and more communities are attending church as a way to communicate with other people and discuss all sorts of topics.

The Republicans have realized this and have seized the opportunity to capture the votes of these people, while the Democrats view them as inferior and backwardly. Even Harold Ford, who is a young moderate Democrat from Tennessee, one of the more religious states, says the Democrats are out of touch with the religious folk of this country. If you think about it, this country is very religious and more and more people are finding some kind of faith to cling to. Ford is a strong christian who regularly attends church and is put off by the "I'm better than these people" attitude the snobby Democrats seem to have.

If the Democrats want to become a mainstream party once again, they better realize that the religious folk are the ones whose votes really count.

 

[dannybin1742]

Democrats won't catch up anytime soon. Mark my words. This country is increasignly becoming more and more religious and an increasing church-going population will strongly vote Republican. Latinos will increasingly vote Republican as will up and coming new successful immigrants from all over the world.

What you and other Democrats fail to understand is that the church-goers are not some religious kooks who are way out there. In fact, they are normal everyday people. The Church is increasingly becoming a place where people talk of things from politics to sports to the economy. Its sort of a community gathering where everyone meets each other and talks about life. More and more communities are attending church as a way to communicate with other people and discuss all sorts of topics.

The Republicans have realized this and have seized the opportunity to capture the votes of these people, while the Democrats view them as inferior and backwardly. Even Harold Ford, who is a young moderate Democrat from Tennessee, one of the more religious states, says the Democrats are out of touch with the religious folk of this country. If you think about it, this country is very religious and more and more people are finding some kind of faith to cling to. Ford is a strong christian who regularly attends church and is put off by the "I'm better than these people" attitude the snobby Democrats seem to have.

If the Democrats want to become a mainstream party once again, they better realize that the religious folk are the ones whose votes really count.

when is your party going to stop using religion to divide people, bunch of tools, keep dividing people with emotional issues so the corporate government can continue to plunder the hard earned tax money that we pay, the energy bill is a perfect example of corporate hand out, straight from my pocket, way to contribute to the defecit :thumbsup:

 

[raildogg]

Its not my party and they have a right to go after religious people. Maybe they are better at getting votes than Democrats? Ever thought of that?

By the way, I want the Democrats to do well, thats why I criticize them so much. I would much rather vote for a Democrat than a Republican. But they must respect the religious people of this country or they will never regain majority ever again.

You're just blabbering all the usual crap talking points. Lets talk about growing trends, such as Catholic Latinos increasingly voting Republican or minorities, even blacks starting to vote Republican now. That should be a major cause of concern to the Democratic party. But of course, as long as Tom DeLay remains in the house as the leader, the Republicans will have a huge cloud hanging over their heads.

What I see in the future is defeat after defeat for the Democrats. Sorry to say it. But if they change their ways and start to act like the Democrat party of old, you know, the one that actually cared and respected the religious people? Then they may have a chance.

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: raildogg
Its not my party and they have a right to go after religious people. Maybe they are better at getting votes than Democrats? Ever thought of that?

By the way, I want the Democrats to do well, thats why I criticize them so much. I would much rather vote for a Democrat than a Republican. But they must respect the religious people of this country or they will never regain majority ever again.

You're just blabbering all the usual crap talking points. Lets talk about growing trends, such as Catholic Latinos increasingly voting Republican or minorities, even blacks starting to vote Republican now. That should be a major cause of concern to the Democratic party. But of course, as long as Tom DeLay remains in the house as the leader, the Republicans will have a huge cloud hanging over their heads.

What I see in the future is defeat after defeat for the Democrats. Sorry to say it. But if they change their ways and start to act like the Democrat party of old, you know, the one that actually cared and respected the religious people? Then they may have a chance.

Explain this to me.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Tabb

Originally posted by: raildogg
Its not my party and they have a right to go after religious people. Maybe they are better at getting votes than Democrats? Ever thought of that?

By the way, I want the Democrats to do well, thats why I criticize them so much. I would much rather vote for a Democrat than a Republican. But they must respect the religious people of this country or they will never regain majority ever again.

You're just blabbering all the usual crap talking points. Lets talk about growing trends, such as Catholic Latinos increasingly voting Republican or minorities, even blacks starting to vote Republican now. That should be a major cause of concern to the Democratic party. But of course, as long as Tom DeLay remains in the house as the leader, the Republicans will have a huge cloud hanging over their heads.

What I see in the future is defeat after defeat for the Democrats. Sorry to say it. But if they change their ways and start to act like the Democrat party of old, you know, the one that actually cared and respected the religious people? Then they may have a chance.

Explain this to me.

It's similar to how people criticize America, but they're not anti-Americans. He criticizes Democrats because he feels that they are straying away and wants them to return.

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Tabb

Originally posted by: raildogg
Its not my party and they have a right to go after religious people. Maybe they are better at getting votes than Democrats? Ever thought of that?

By the way, I want the Democrats to do well, thats why I criticize them so much. I would much rather vote for a Democrat than a Republican. But they must respect the religious people of this country or they will never regain majority ever again.

You're just blabbering all the usual crap talking points. Lets talk about growing trends, such as Catholic Latinos increasingly voting Republican or minorities, even blacks starting to vote Republican now. That should be a major cause of concern to the Democratic party. But of course, as long as Tom DeLay remains in the house as the leader, the Republicans will have a huge cloud hanging over their heads.

What I see in the future is defeat after defeat for the Democrats. Sorry to say it. But if they change their ways and start to act like the Democrat party of old, you know, the one that actually cared and respected the religious people? Then they may have a chance.

Explain this to me.

It's similar to how people criticize America, but they're not anti-Americans. He criticizes Democrats because he feels that they are straying away and wants them to return.

There a distinct difference between just rash generalizations and creating construcitve criticizm. I've only being seeing the first one...

 

[cwjerome]

The Reps are in trouble. Not enough to cause major shifts in trends and attittudes, but they're straying away from a brand of conservatism that's the fueled social and political changes that brought them to power. The re-election of Bush has made some a little arrogant and abusive. I find it natural and not all that surprising. It's almost a self-check, and this will ignite necessary debate and re-shuffling to be mindful of the electorate, although I believe the "pendulum" will not swing far. Not for at least a decade, that is.

 

[judasmachine]

Originally posted by: loki8481
pfft.

the washington post is run by a bunch of gay, liberal, commie wolves. how can we possibly take any poll they release seriously?

Heh, my kind of people! :thumbsup:

 

[Deptacon]

Originally posted by: Smaug
The Poll

So it really doesn't look good. The only issue where Bush has a higher approval then disapproval is war on terrorism.

The dems are 18 points above in handling social security.

Here is the big one

Shares our values

Dems-47%
Republicans - 38%

And 52% think judges are just right

26% too liberal

18% too conservative

Boy do the Republicans have to turn this around, or the democrats may just completely sweep in '06.

its a poll..... wow.... big deal

 

[impeachbush]

Originally posted by: raildogg
Its not my party and they have a right to go after religious people. Maybe they are better at getting votes than Democrats? Ever thought of that?

By the way, I want the Democrats to do well, thats why I criticize them so much. I would much rather vote for a Democrat than a Republican. But they must respect the religious people of this country or they will never regain majority ever again.

You're just blabbering all the usual crap talking points. Lets talk about growing trends, such as Catholic Latinos increasingly voting Republican or minorities, even blacks starting to vote Republican now. That should be a major cause of concern to the Democratic party. But of course, as long as Tom DeLay remains in the house as the leader, the Republicans will have a huge cloud hanging over their heads.

What I see in the future is defeat after defeat for the Democrats. Sorry to say it. But if they change their ways and start to act like the Democrat party of old, you know, the one that actually cared and respected the religious people? Then they may have a chance.

Ralldogg, you need to really think about what you have said. Any 'christian' or 'christian faith' that tries to pit christians against christians over political power is following the wrong god. I'm much more on the left these days than on the right and I consider myself a member of a chistian faith. I attend church every Sunday. In my church, we don't discuss politics over the pulpit. We worship God. My church does not take a politcal side. None of the monies collected go to politicians or political organizations. Many churches and believers of christ believe this way. My religion believes abortion is wrong, and homosexuality a sin, but to not look at the entire picture of whats good for the country is absolutely foolish. Politicians made these into wedge issues...in other words they used God to further their own political career and power. Both sides have politicians guilty of this.

I can't believe you really just said that Democrats don't care or respect religious people. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the majority of persons within the Democratic party consider themselves followers of Christ. Most of the democrat christians and many many republican christian grit their teeth anytime the name of christ is dragged through the mud of politics, and used to say we are right, you are wrong, if you dont vote this way we will see you in hell. Politicians and lobbyist religions that go down this road will soon crumble under their own hypocrisy.

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: Smaug
The Poll

So it really doesn't look good. The only issue where Bush has a higher approval then disapproval is war on terrorism.

The dems are 18 points above in handling social security.

Here is the big one

Shares our values

Dems-47%
Republicans - 38%

And 52% think judges are just right

26% too liberal

18% too conservative

Boy do the Republicans have to turn this around, or the democrats may just completely sweep in '06.

rofl. You are too enthusiastic. It's only 5 months after Bush just won re-election and republicans increased their majority! It's still 18 months till congressional elections! Not much is likely to change in congress.

 

[Proletariat]

Damn the American people are fickle.

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: dannybin1742
when is your party going to stop using religion to divide people, bunch of tools, keep dividing people with emotional issues so the corporate government can continue to plunder the hard earned tax money that we pay, the energy bill is a perfect example of corporate hand out, straight from my pocket, way to contribute to the defecit :thumbsup:

The Republicans don't need to use religion to divide people. The problem is that the stance of the Dems on social issues is simply incompatible with that of EVERY major world religion - Hindu, Muslim, Jew, and Christian. Relative to social issues, foreign and domestic policy will always take a back seat. Until Dems realize this, they're SOL. They discussed it briefly after the election, but it looks like they forgot already. As long as the Reps have a monopoly on social conservatism, they will have a monopoly on religious people. This isn't rocket science here.

 

[SuperTool]

I think Terri Schiavo is a great lithmus test. If Election 2004 was all about Christian values as we've been lead to believe, why did the public opinion in our majority Christian country break heavily against the GOP on this Christian values issue?
http://www.pollingreport.com/news.htm#Schiavo
I think the American people have sent a strong message that they don't want the federal government forcing its "morality" down people's throats.