New Video Card - Non Stop Bluescreens

[Mem]

Originally posted by: Blurry
Also forgot to mention that this is on a clean install of Vista/32bit.

Safe mode appears to be fine - does that mean it is not a PSU related problem?

Sounds like it might be a driver issue,did you install chipset drivers first or the video drivers?..Also did you try different Nvidia drivers.

As to your PSU the only way to rule that out is try a better quality PSU.

 

[Clauzii]

So a 600 Watt PSU won't do in a machine that probably uses MAX ~400 Watt??

 

[taltamir]

The suggested that it might be a low quality PSU (way over rated) or a defective PSU. Not that 600watt wasn't enough.

Having 600W in the name should mean as much to you as the word "eXTREME" in the name

 

[evolucion8]

Originally posted by: taltamir

Originally posted by: rgallant
- chip set drivers ?

My guess, a defect in the chip in a part that deals with DX10. Remember that all that software runs on physical hardware, physical printed circuits.
Running XP means that only DX9 is being used on the chip.

That certainly would be truth if the pixel/vertex/geometry were separated parts of the chip, but isn't current DX10 hardware based on unified shaders which can perform any operation regardless of pixel/vertex data and DX9/DX10 API?

 

[taltamir]

The SP unifies a lot, but not ALL of the functions.
There are still many specialized hardware features. from video decode to texturizers.
Are there ones unique to DX10? I don't know. I said it was a guess.

Heck, AMD even created some hardware AA acceleration for standard AA modes in the 48xx series to give you very cheap (FPS loss wise) 8xAA performance (from what I read).

 

[evolucion8]

Originally posted by: taltamir
The SP unifies a lot, but not ALL of the functions.
There are still many specialized hardware features. from video decode to texturizers.
Are there ones unique to DX10? I don't know. I said it was a guess.

Heck, AMD even created some hardware AA acceleration for standard AA modes in the 48xx series to give you very cheap (FPS loss wise) 8xAA performance (from what I read).

Actually AMD uses full hardware acceleration for Standard AA, which was broken in previous hardware, CFAA still relying on shaders to improve quality. But when you look inside the architecture like as an example, the RV670, it shows the 4 block of ROP's, the Setup engine, and the 4 blocks of Texture Units and the Stream Processors but doesn't show if inside of them tey have parts exclusively for DX9 or DX10. May be they don't disclose that much or probably those DX9/DX10 portions are non existant.

http://techreport.com/r.x/rade...d-3800/rv670-block.png

 

[taltamir]

why do you say actually (implying a contradiction), and then proceed to say exactly what I said?
As for the rest of what you said. Maybe, I don't know.

 

[evolucion8]

Originally posted by: taltamir
why do you say actually (implying a contradiction), and then proceed to say exactly what I said?
As for the rest of what you said. Maybe, I don't know.

Jum, I don't know what you mean, I was just explaining it with more details.

 

[Acanthus]

PEBKAC

You likely installed XP drivers on Vista.

 

[Jschmuck2]

Which drivers did you use? And how many versions did you try?

 

[Blurry]

I used two versions - ones from the CD that were VISTA only,

and ones I downloaded off of Asus's very speedy website - again, VISTA only.

 

[Jschmuck2]

...but never from NVIDIA's website?

 

[Blurry]

sorry for the confusion

The chipset drivers I used from both the bundled CD and off of Asus's website.

As for the drivers for the 9800GTX, I used the ones only off of nVidia's site.

 

[taltamir]

Never use CD drivers, they tend to be ancient. Never use drivers from manufacturer site.
Get them from the chipset maker. In this case. nvidia.com

Unless... do you have an intel chipset? I was also having blue screen issues with that. Intel.com does not give you ANY drivers.... and manufactureres (asus, gigabyte) are outdated, etc... It was a pain to get my P35 working right on vista. but once i got the drivers right for the chipset the blue screens stopped.

 

[john3850]

Vista needs to be prime stable before you can max out card.
Xpp sli will run at 4300.
Vista will only run at 3900-4000.
Xp will fail prime and still be game stable.
I also believe the newer MB 45 48 are much more stable in vista.

 

[evolucion8]

When I first saw lower scores with Vista, I though that it was because Vista was heavier and used more CPU cycles and had some kind of overhead that dropped the score slighly in benchmarks and games. And I found that it was the opposite, in benchmarks for example, in my case, my CPU score remained identical as it was on XP, but my GPU score dropped a bit in Vista, so the lower performance in Vista is because of the GPU, but I don't know who to blame, the GPU drivers (ATi or nVidia) or Vista (Micro$oft).

 

[Mem]

Originally posted by: Blurry
sorry for the confusion

The chipset drivers I used from both the bundled CD and off of Asus's website.

As for the drivers for the 9800GTX, I used the ones only off of nVidia's site.

Personally just get the latest video drivers from Nvidia's website,make sure you remove the old ones first as well.

Chipset drivers you are better off getting newest version from Intel,AMD,Nvidia depending on the motherboard in question.

 

[taltamir]

you should blame the testing software.

 

[secretanchitman]

i agree with the OP. i had endless crashes with my 6600GT and vista (not sp1 though). same thing with my 8800GTS 320MB. somehow, magically the BSODs just stopped after i applied a certain update (i forget which one and i let windows update do everything). still, all that and more should be fixed with sp1.

 

[john3850]

It was strange to see some 3dmark world records being run using vista.
Few months back records were so close I could not understand using vista when a few hunred pts would have put you on top for a few weeks.

 

[taltamir]

Originally posted by: secretanchitman
i agree with the OP. i had endless crashes with my 6600GT and vista (not sp1 though). same thing with my 8800GTS 320MB. somehow, magically the BSODs just stopped after i applied a certain update (i forget which one and i let windows update do everything). still, all that and more should be fixed with sp1.

thats not magically, there were no less then three (I know of three) separate major graphics issues causing crashing and blue screens in vista that were fixed in SP1.