New Video Card - Non Stop Bluescreens

Blurry

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Hey folks,

Just got a new 9800GTX for my rig. Problem is, everytime I try to install the drivers for it or finish installing it, I get the BSOD. If the drivers install correctly, Windows is unusable due to constant BSOD.

Any ideas? Thanks!
 

octopus41092

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Whats the BSOD error code. My guess is you either like xtwells said don't have a powerful enough PSU, or it could be due to some driver conflict issues resulting from you not uninstalling your previous ones properly.
 

Blurry

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Ok guys,

Motherboard is an Asus P5K Deluxe
Power supply is a Rosewill 600W.

The following is displayed during the BSOD:

BCCode: 1000007e
BCP1: 80000003
BCP2: 81977168
BCP3: 8A15F958
BCP4: 8A15F654
 

Blurry

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Also forgot to mention that this is on a clean install of Vista/32bit.

Safe mode appears to be fine - does that mean it is not a PSU related problem?
 

videopho

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What video card was previously used in your rig?
One thing you could do now though is that re-seat the card and check all pci-e power pin connection for tightness or looseness.
 

Blurry

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This is a new rig - no cards have been previously installed.

Anyways - I copied the error code from the BSOD - can anyone pinpoint my problem?
 

Blurry

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FIXED - my intuition led me to reinstall everything over again - this time only not Vista, but good ol' XP. Guess what - no problems - playing Mass Effect ATM with my spanking new 9800GTX.

WHY VISTA WHY? I gave you one last time to prove your worthiness - my laptop sucks because of you and now this?

Thank god for XP and I sure hope Windows 7 won't disappoint...

End rant.
 

hemmy

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User error IMO

If you can't figure out how to get an OS working that works for everyone else it isn't Window's fault
 

Ronstang

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If it was a clean install of Vista was it done with a disc that had been slipstreamed with SP1? Did you install SP1 after the clean install? If you do not have Vista SP1 then the problem lies in you not updating the operating system to the most current state.
 

Blurry

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Ronstang,

The Vista Disc I had included SP1 with it.

At Hemmy,

Yes, you may be right about it being a user error. But, to be honest, I'd never had any problems with XP - my laptop, which is preloaded with Vista Business, has all types of quirks that I never encountered in XP.

IMO - XP is more stable and compatible with hardware than Vista.
 

sneakybit

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Maybe you need to do a few tests by running Memtest+ on your PC for a couple of iterations.
I'm no font of knowledge but I would check your connectors, your PSU and RAM.
Been using Vista full time since SP1 and IMHO it's superior to Windows XP.
 

Blurry

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Memtest? What for?

The setup is running perfectly right now under XP - Crysis, Bioshock, CoD4 - you name it.
If my ram was the culprit - won't XP also crash like it did in Vista?
 

sneakybit

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Vista puts a lot more stress on computer components (that may be marginal) and that's when software crashes.
 

taltamir

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XP is a bloated buggy piece of crap... use 2k.
At least. that is what i said before SP2 for XP... and SP1 for vista (still needs some work, but is currently my favorite choice).

Check for ram and CPU errors... a single error during installation results in a corrupt OS file that results in non stop BSODs... a few fresh installs later it will work fine, simply because no OS files were corrupted during install. But eventually the BSODs will come back when an error occurs during a windows update process.

The solution, is to fix the problem... so use memtest and CPU testing suites.
 

40sTheme

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Wow.. way to blame Vista, when I've seen tons of people running it fine without BSODs.
User error, as someone above said.
 

Modular

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I wouldn't blame user error as some are so quick to do above. More constructively OP, did you try more than one nVidia driver?
 

videopho

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OP- You may try to repost this over the Operating System forum where you may get more insight help since it looks more like the OS issue than any thine else.
User error is most likely the cause but this is not to criticize your efforts but hopefully just a minor issue that had been overlooked during the OS installation??
 

evolucion8

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I don't think that Vista puts more strain on the PC than XP, it even boots faster than XP in my setup and my CPU usage doesn't even reach 60% during booting, Vista uses more RAM of course, but it has a much more robust memory management, XP is a cache trasher. I had a friend that using his overclocked Pentium 4 Prescott would cause crashes on XP, but not a single issue in Vista. He got back to XP because he has issues with his sound card and the programs he uses to create music (He's a DJ) and had to deactivate the overclocking for XP. Even though Vista is supposed to be more reliable, a single driver for my STM Card Reader USB crashed Vista twice, that's reliable!!
 

Mem

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Originally posted by: Blurry
FIXED - my intuition led me to reinstall everything over again - this time only not Vista, but good ol' XP. Guess what - no problems - playing Mass Effect ATM with my spanking new 9800GTX.

WHY VISTA WHY? I gave you one last time to prove your worthiness - my laptop sucks because of you and now this?

Thank god for XP and I sure hope Windows 7 won't disappoint...

End rant.

I'm playing Mass Effect too on both my Vista PCs with no issues(Nvidia based laptop and ATI 4870 graphics in main PC),too bad you never be able to use 9800 card in DX10 mode in XP,as to fixing your problem well actually you did not,you gave up on the first problem that popped up,you don't know for sure it was a Vista issue,did you install any other software,installed all drivers including chipset drivers?

For the record Vista does not suck and posts like yours are very misleading,too bad you never found the real cause of the problem,ask yourself this why are there loads of 9800 users even Nvidia and AMD users in general running Vista just fine when you can't?.....see my point.
 

Blurry

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I do see your point and I can see why people think it's a user error.

However, I think I have exhausted nearly every option available to me.

I reinstalled Vista a total of five times, using different versions (Ultimate, Business, and Basic). Each version had the same problem - once I install the nVidia drivers, my pc locks up - and booting up becomes impossible.

I do think the problem lies in drivers - either Vista doesn't like nVidia's drivers (doubt it) or Asus's own Vista drivers are incompatible with nVidia's Vista drivers etc, etc.

I am frusturated mainly in that it took me a whole day messing around with Vista, but still no go whereas a 30 min install of XP resulted in ZERO problems.

Vista isn't so bad - it's just that it shouldn't have so many hardware incompatibilites.

And for the record, Vista was my first choice - having a 9800GTX meant that I really wanted DX10, but for now, I'm stuck with XP and DX9.
 

Christobevii3

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Originally posted by: Bateluer
Nvidia's drivers have always been lousy for Vista.

Yes, this! The latest have a stutter issue in tf2 from their site, i had to switch to an older beta release to fix it.
 

taltamir

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Originally posted by: rgallant
- chip set drivers ?

you know what, i had blue screens until I installed the chipset software that came on the CD with the mobo. The ones I was getting online weren't cutting it...
But this is ONLY an issue with intel. Both nvidia and AMD chipset drivers are available as one single package from their website (unlike intel who tells you to get it from the mobo manufacturer)

Reading the original post... he got a NEW video card, it BSODs in vista, it does not in XP...
My guess, a defect in the chip in a part that deals with DX10. Remember that all that software runs on physical hardware, physical printed circuits.
Running XP means that only DX9 is being used on the chip.
that, or he needed to reinstall vista, or his vista install was corrupt... maybe his DX10 files were corrupted. Who knows.

But 9800GTX and vista are compatible, and work for millions of people.