New Van Halen album/tour with David Lee Roth FINALLY made official

[alkemyst]

You should like the new album if you liked:

maybe if you liked:

probably not if you thought this was the best:

 

[BrokenVisage]

You should like the new album if you liked:

maybe if you liked:

probably not if you thought this was the best:

Not sure what you're getting at. Diver was mediocre but some of the cover songs (Pretty Woman, Dancing in the Street) were greatly done, 1984 was DLRs last album but still awesome and spawned some of the songs VH is best known for (Jump, Hot For Teacher, I'll Wait, Panama), and OU812 has their best ballad (When it's Love) and catchy songs (Finish What You Started, Feels So Good) that were different but nicely done. I'm just glad I was too young to like Halen early on, becoming attached to Dave's voice to the point where I end up hating on the guy who eventually replaced him, because they really did make some GREAT music with Hagar, and vocally he is Roth's superior IMHO.

 

[alkemyst]

Not sure what you're getting at. Diver was mediocre but some of the cover songs (Pretty Woman, Dancing in the Street) were greatly done, 1984 was DLRs last album but still awesome and spawned some of the songs VH is best known for (Jump, Hot For Teacher, I'll Wait, Panama), and OU812 has their best ballad (When it's Love) and catchy songs (Finish What You Started, Feels So Good) that were different but nicely done. I'm just glad I was too young to like Halen early on, becoming attached to Dave's voice to the point where I end up hating on the guy who eventually replaced him, because they really did make some GREAT music with Hagar, and vocally he is Roth's superior IMHO.

You proved my point with this.

This album is back to their roots. If you are a Van Hagar type of guy, and never got into the originals then you probably won't like the new one.

They went away from a pure rock and roll group to samples/overdubs/electronica.

 

[BrokenVisage]

You proved my point with this.

This album is back to their roots. If you are a Van Hagar type of guy, and never got into the originals then you probably won't like the new one.

They went away from a pure rock and roll group to samples/overdubs/electronica.

Is that so bad if it works though? Eddie (and Alex) chose to go in the direction they did and at the time Sammy fit that style. All their albums except for Fair Warning still went triple platinum and Hagar's 4 albums with the band produced about as many charted hits as Roth's 6 if you look at the numbers.

I just find qualities in both eras of the band (let's pretend the Cherone "era" never existed) so I'm neither a Van Hagar or Van Roth type, but I also came late to the party and evaluate from a position of not growing up paying attention to one or the other, so I like to think I'm unbiased and have allegiance to neither. In the end it's still Eddie on guitar, which is 50% of what the band represents no matter who is singing.

 

[Jeffg010]

To me 5150 is a masterpiece. When I here that album it brings so much memories of my teen years.

 

[Jeffg010]

I would like to add ya Cherone sucked when he was in the band. They added all kind of effects to his voice which sounded like crap to me.

Now the Extreme 1992 album III SIDES TO EVERY STORY is fucking masterpiece. It is in my top 5 all time. I blame Van Halen for fucking that up.

 

[lowrider69]

If you care about the numbers the albums with Roth sold more than the albums with Hagar if I recall correctly. Yeah they did have two more studio albums with Roth which helps. I personally disliked 5150, For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge was my favorite album with Sammy. I'm a Roth era fan although they did have some good stuff with Hagar, I just don't find myself listening to the Hagar material nearly as often. As for Diver Down, it was a mediocre album but it contained one of the best songs they ever wrote IMO..Little Guitars.

Putting Gary Cherone in the band was the single biggest mistake VH ever made(even more so than losing Roth), that and Eddie being out of control with his drinking sunk the band from 1998 up to pretty much now. The 2004 tour was a POS. The 2007 tour with Roth helped a bit, it was successful. This album will help reestablish their credibility a lot more and I think the 2012 tour will be successful.

We'll see.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Don't care for the new song at all. They seem to be phoning it in, especially Eddie. There's none of his flash or guitar style in the song. Hopefully other songs on the album will be better and this won't be VH's version of St. Anger.

 

[spacejamz]

WTF??? Kool and the Gang are opening for them???

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/van-halen-taps-kool-and-the-gang-as-tour-opener/

Much like they did for the 2007-08 reunion tour, Van Halen has crossed genres in selecting an opening act for their 2012 tour. According to Rolling Stone, none other than Kool and the Gang will open select shows when things kick off on Feb. 18 in Louisville, Ken.

While the choice is somewhat of a head-scratcher, the unconventional pairing could be a lot of fun, depending on which set Kool bring, the funk of the ’70s (check out ‘Spirit of the Boogie&#8216 or the less memorable R&B of the ’80s (‘Joanna&#8216.

Ky-Mani Marley opened shows for Van Halen in 2008. The son of Bob Marley didn’t bill himself as a reggae musician however. He told Billboard his sound at the time was “really edgy, really urban.” That’s not anything near the sound Van Halen has tried to replicate, even during the forgettable Gary Cherone years. Last night’s performance at Cafe Wha? in New York City proved their new music begins where the band left off when David Lee Roth split in 1984.

As previously reported, tickets for most shows will go on sale Jan. 14. Nearly four dozen stops were announced yesterday, ending with a June 26 gig in New Orleans. The next important date for VH fans to circle on their calendars is next Tuesday however. That is when the new song ‘Tattoo’ will be released, and when the new album ‘A Different Kind of Truth’ will be available for pre-order. You can see the artwork for ‘Tattoo’ and hear two versions of another track from the album, ‘She’s the Woman,’ right here.

 

[BrokenVisage]

Just confirmed that I'll be 10 rows from stage for the Philly show! :awe::awe::awe:

 

[erikistired]

Who's playing bass? Michael Anthony or Wolfgang Van Halen?

mikey is doing way better things these days. and it's not VH without him.

 

[erikistired]

This album is back to their roots. If you are a Van Hagar type of guy, and never got into the originals then you probably won't like the new one.

They went away from a pure rock and roll group to samples/overdubs/electronica.

1984 is probably the greatest rock album ever made. the new song however, sucks.

and your second statement? really? are you intentionally being retarded? go watch "live without a net" and point out all of the electronica to me.

 

[13Gigatons]

The new album is going to be suck-ville.

 

[Gintaras]

Let put it this way:

Eddie is a very good guitarist, VH I and VH II albums can belong to any Hard Rock fan collection.
Before Eddie, there were many guitarist, who could play good and write good songs: Ritchie Blackmore, Michael Schenker...etc.
Eddie did not do anything special...
David Lee Roth - a cabaret singer - more or less...
There are way better singers and guitarists than Eddie Van Halen or David Lee Roth....


Music Business is about PROMOTION...I've worked in Music Industry for a couple years...and I do know something about.
Let's say, Marty Friedman and Jason Becker did more inventive records 2x Cacophony in late 80's that Van Halen in late 70's.
Cacophony wasn't promoted same way Van Halen was...

Neither Eddie Van Halen nor David Lee Roth contributed to HR/HM anything...

 

[jalaram]

Just confirmed that I'll be 10 rows from stage for the Philly show! :awe::awe::awe:

They're coming to Manchester. I'll be trying for tix. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Like many other nostaglia acts, I don't expect them to be the same as their heyday.

 

[lowrider69]

Let put it this way:

Eddie is a very good guitarist, VH I and VH II albums can belong to any Hard Rock fan collection.
Before Eddie, there were many guitarist, who could play good and write good songs: Ritchie Blackmore, Michael Schenker...etc.
Eddie did not do anything special...
David Lee Roth - a cabaret singer - more or less...
There are way better singers and guitarists than Eddie Van Halen or David Lee Roth....


Music Business is about PROMOTION...I've worked in Music Industry for a couple years...and I do know something about.
Let's say, Marty Friedman and Jason Becker did more inventive records 2x Cacophony in late 80's that Van Halen in late 70's.
Cacophony wasn't promoted same way Van Halen was...

Neither Eddie Van Halen nor David Lee Roth contributed to HR/HM anything...

Let's put it this way, you have no clue what you're talking about.

Eddie VH was a massively influential guitar player. VH as a band was also massively influential. To say otherwise means your head is up your ass, whether you were a pencil pusher in the music business or not. Promotion may get you in the room but talent among other things keeps you there.

By the way VH was not heavily promoted in the 70's and were considered almost a underground band for years.

Marty Friedman and Jason Becker(both influenced by EVH), two very good guitar players who wrote guitar oriented albums for Shrapnel records that would have not been commercially successful no matter how much you plugged them.

Jason Becker got more notoriety when he recorded with..... David Lee Roth in 1991 on A Little Ain't Enough.

Music is subjective so I don't know what constitutes as "better"... "There are way better singers and guitarists than Eddie Van Halen or David Lee Roth", if you mean faster, more technique, more range.. that's great and I agree. Where did it get them? Where are they now? What impact did they have or their band have on other musicians and music in general?


Good thing you got out of the music business.

 

[BrokenVisage]

Philly concert rocked last night! They played all almost all the old hits I was hoping to hear and only 3 from the new album, and they were the 3 I actually liked from it. Completely packed house and my seat was 10 rows back on Eddie's side of the stage. Dave still has a nice voice but he was selective with trying to hit the high notes, hard to blame him for that though. Eddie's solo into Eruption was so epic, then he played Eruption and I honestly couldn't hear 1 mistake.

 

[Eos]

The reviews I've been reading from bootlegs also say the shows are great. So excited for Tacoma!

 

[alent1234]

Let put it this way:

Eddie is a very good guitarist, VH I and VH II albums can belong to any Hard Rock fan collection.
Before Eddie, there were many guitarist, who could play good and write good songs: Ritchie Blackmore, Michael Schenker...etc.
Eddie did not do anything special...
David Lee Roth - a cabaret singer - more or less...
There are way better singers and guitarists than Eddie Van Halen or David Lee Roth....


Music Business is about PROMOTION...I've worked in Music Industry for a couple years...and I do know something about.
Let's say, Marty Friedman and Jason Becker did more inventive records 2x Cacophony in late 80's that Van Halen in late 70's.
Cacophony wasn't promoted same way Van Halen was...

Neither Eddie Van Halen nor David Lee Roth contributed to HR/HM anything...

you're on drugs, EVH invented a lot of modern guitar playing techniques

i listen to newer rock and i haven't heard one good guitarist on the level of the greats from the 70s and 80s. it's like as soon as the 90's hit no one can play good guitar anymore

 

[OutHouse]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_euxJjP933U&feature=related

no thanks. honestly its sad. i was in the 10th grade when 1984 came out and van halen fucking rocked and i wore my black VH shirts shirts and jean jacket with pride. now they just look old and out of place.

 

[BrokenVisage]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_euxJjP933U&feature=related

no thanks. honestly its sad. i was in the 10th grade when 1984 came out and van halen fucking rocked and i wore my black VH shirts shirts and jean jacket with pride. now they just look old and out of place.

That would be considered modern attire compared to some of the things people were wearing last night, some of which was pretty out-there.

 

[BrokenVisage]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBpJsbbvryg

Here's a video of Eddie doing Eruption at the Philly show. Like I said, not 1 damn mistake.

 

[RearAdmiral]

Philly concert rocked last night! They played all almost all the old hits I was hoping to hear and only 3 from the new album, and they were the 3 I actually liked from it. Completely packed house and my seat was 10 rows back on Eddie's side of the stage. Dave still has a nice voice but he was selective with trying to hit the high notes, hard to blame him for that though. Eddie's solo into Eruption was so epic, then he played Eruption and I honestly couldn't hear 1 mistake.

Did you see the guy by you with the red/black Van Halen guitar color schemed suspenders?

The show was indeed awesome.

 

[BrokenVisage]

Did you see the guy by you with the red/black Van Halen guitar color schemed suspenders?

The show was indeed awesome.

lol yeah I saw the Frankenstrat-themed suspenders guy while walking around before Kool and the Gang came on. There were a couple other crazy outfits like that too but his obviously stood out. Did you see the huge red "Wolfie" sign in the upper levels on his side of the stage? Thought that was cool, as out of place as he seems with the band I truly believe this wouldn't have happened without Eddie bringing him on.

I wonder what DLR throwing all those gold coins into the crowd was all about. I was off to the side on Eddie's side of the stage when it happened so had no chance to grab one but there were like 500 "coins" that he threw out there.

I'm also wondering what he meant when he called Flyer's fans "Jackals" :hmm:

 

[RearAdmiral]

lol yeah I saw the Frankenstrat-themed suspenders guy while walking around before Kool and the Gang came on. There were a couple other crazy outfits like that too but his obviously stood out. Did you see the huge red "Wolfie" sign in the upper levels on his side of the stage? Thought that was cool, as out of place as he seems with the band I truly believe this wouldn't have happened without Eddie bringing him on.

I wonder what DLR throwing all those gold coins into the crowd was all about. I was off to the side on Eddie's side of the stage when it happened so had no chance to grab one but there were like 500 "coins" that he threw out there.

I'm also wondering what he meant when he called Flyer's fans "Jackals" :hmm:

Nah I didn't see that sign. I think the most enjoyment I got out of the concert was watching Eddie play with his son, all the while having a smile on his face. He seemed to really be enjoying himself.

I really don't remember what the coins were about either, I was too distracted from it being "ladies night" for the 10th time that night. That and all the hippies smoking weed when the show started up.