New TV Tuner. No audio through composite.

[antsct]

Hey.

I don't know whats happening but I bought a new Medion TV Tuner (Medion DVB-T/Analog/FM External USB) and it works great however through composite I get no audio.

I use Powercinema (it came with it and is what program that remote control is compaitble with). To my surprise, in Powercinema, there is no option to select Composite (or S-Video). What I did was try out a few different PVRs (about 6 different) and when using Composite, I get no audio. It seems as though there are four options which all TV Tuners have and when opening that up with a PVR such as Windows Media 9 Capture and select Composite (while Powercinema is opened) I can see the Composite in Powercinema! (which is my Playstation 2) however there is no audio.

The funny thing is, DScaler (a pvr program) does give me audio however it is very crackly and when there is more sound there is more crackle.

Please could someone help me get audio through my composite connection.

Thankyou!

 

[antsct]

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[aidanjm]

What country are you in? I thought USA wasn't using DVB digital over free to air?

So you are trying to get a signal from your play station to your computer, via e.g., an s-video cable? but the audio isn't working? does the playstation have separate audio out terminals? maybe you could run them in thru your mic in terminals on the sound card?

 

[FlyingPenguin]

Are you running a seperate cable for audio? The s-video cable doesn't carry audio, it's only video.

 

[antsct]

Hi.

Thanks for the replys.

I live in Australia and am trying to get Video and Audio through my Playstation 2 via Composite (Yellow, red, white). It's 3 cables stuck together thathave 3 heads and plugs into the tuner.

Any help would be great.

Thanks.

 

[antsct]

Bump.

 

[slpaulson]

Do you use a digital connection to your speakers? If so, you might to find an option that is something like "digitize input." That's what I had to do back when I had my tv tuner with my nforce audio.

 

[antsct]

Originally posted by: cRazYdood
Do you use a digital connection to your speakers? If so, you might to find an option that is something like "digitize input." That's what I had to do back when I had my tv tuner with my nforce audio.

Nah I don't. Well, not that I am aware of.

 

[aidanjm]

If you are in Australia, a good place for advice on products in the Australian market are the Whirlpool forums:
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-threads.cfm?f=7

 

[aidanjm]

As I understand it, a composite signal does not contain audio, it only contains video. So you also need to run an audio cable from your playstation to your computer soundcard input at the back of the computer.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: antsct
Hi.

Thanks for the replys.

I live in Australia and am trying to get Video and Audio through my Playstation 2 via Composite (Yellow, red, white). It's 3 cables stuck together thathave 3 heads and plugs into the tuner.

Any help would be great.

Thanks.

OK, so the white cable is left audio, the red cable is right audio, and the yellow cable is the actual composite video signal - see this image:
http://www.answers.com/topic/rca-jack
(scroll down for image of back of playstation)

Are there 3 RCA ports on the back of your tuner card (white, red, yellow) to match up with the three on the play station? If so, then you should be able to go straight from the playstation to the tuner card with the three cables.

However lots (most?) tv tuner cards only have a single (yellow) RCA port for video in. E.g., on the back of my Compro Videomate DVB-T300 tv card there is only a single (yellow) RCA port for a composite video signal, but the card lacks red or white RCA ports for audio. (There is also an s-video port). In other words, the card only takes video input, not audio input - i.e., with my card you would have to handle audio seperatley, probably run it thru the computer's sound card inputs. It's the same with the DVICO DVB-T card. See the pic on this page, you can see a single RCA port on the back of the card (it's yellow, indicating it takes composite video):
http://www.overclockers.com.au/article.php?id=314259
The DVICO card also has an analog audio in port, in the form of a 3.5mm female stereo plug socket (which you can see in the above pic). Does your tuner card have one of these? If not, most motherboards with onboard sound have one of these anyway, and so do most sound cards.

You could get a little adapter to convert the yellow/ red RCA cables (left/ right audio) to a single plug that fits into the 3.5 mm socket.
e.g.
http://www.ramelectronics.net/assets/images/180-3-5S-RCAX2.jpg
or
http://www.ramelectronics.net/assets/images/180-3-5S-RCAPX2.jpg
(not sure whether you would need male or female version, depends on how your cable is that came with the playstation)
Does this make sense?

 

[antsct]

Thanks aidanjm!

Ok, just to give you an update. I run the yellow red white from the Playstation 2 directly into the TV Tuner (the tv tuner has the yellow red white ports on it).

So yesterday, my Dad says, try a program called ChristTWEAK (for changing settings for your tv tuner). So I did. I opened it up while I had Powercinema open and changed the video input in ChrisTWEAK to composite. Then Powercinema showed the composite picture. Beautiful! but no audio still...So, having a look around in ChristTWEAK I found the audio input section. My Dad was telling me to see if I could find something with Line In. So while looking in the audio input settings, it was on 'Device' or something like that. I clicked the dropped down button and, fantastic, I see a Line In. So I click Line In, hit apply and presto! I have audio and video in Powercinema! Now the problem. The audio is very crackly, the more sound there is the more crackle. For example I was playing the car game, Grand Turismo 3. When just ideling or driving slowly the audio is ok, as soon as you go fast, drift, burnout or are near other cars, it crackles more because there is more sound. It sounds like the speakers are blown up but they are not because everything else works perfectly. My Dad was saying it good be a sound card issue but isn't sure why there is a crackling sound.

Could someone please help me out with this?

Thanks.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Could just be the quality of the line-in. They're usually not the greatest.

I don't have a PS2, so I don't know if you can, but see if you can adjust the volume of it.

Decreasing the level of the input and then turning up your speakers to compensate might work.

 

[antsct]

Hi.

I've tested out another game and it also made the same crackel sounds when there is a lot of sound. I'll test out my digital camera's composite soon.

I was wondering and hoping, that there is a program like ChrisTWEAK but only with the following settings (which are available on all TV Cards and shouldn't have to pay for) because ChrisTWEAK isn't free.

I only need a program that allows you to change the settings outlined in red:
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/8044/pic4ly.png

Thanks

 

[aminoo]

hi I had the same sort of problem and it drove me nuts. I endured it for 6 months but then found a solution and now playing with my PS2 on my computer is vastly more enjoyable. I tried hooking up my PS2 audio to my on-board motherboard audio via line-in, my SB x-fi card, and even plugging it into my TV tuner card and then my TV tuner card into my sound card. I always had left-channel clipping (static-y at high volumes) no matter how I changed the settings.

Turns out that the problem is that the initial volume of the sound sent from the PS2 is too high for the computer audio to handle. No tweaking to the software will do anything because it is a hardware problem. So, what you need to do is reduce the volume after the sound leaves the PS2 but before it reaches the sound card/TV tuner audio input. I did this using a headphone volume control thing for a portable CD player that is basically a box with a volume slider which the headphones plug into, and in turn plugs into the CD-player.

I checked online and they sell such simple volume controls. Here is one: http://www.goelectronic.com/Merchant2/m...=KOSS+VC-20&Category_Code=1+HEADPHONES

So, the setup includes having the two PS2 RCA audio cords plug into a RCA-to-miniplug converter, having the converter plug into the headphone audio control, and the audio control plug into either your soundcard line-in or your TV-tuner card input. Then you should play something loud on your PS2 and adjust the volume on the headphone audio control until you no longer hear any clipping.

Both the converter and volume control will set you back about $10-$15 U.S. depending on quality of components you select.