New TV, Plasma burn-in, a problem?

boxleitnerb

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Hi guys,

I'm considering buying my first TV:

  • Source: PC via HDMI/DP. Just Bluray, Netflix etc., no cable/sat
  • Sound: Hi-fi speakers available
  • Viewing distance: 10 feet from wall to wall, so about 9 feet
  • Size: 50-60" (should be adequate for a 9 ft. viewing distance?)
  • Resolution: 1080p. 4K doesn't make sense for me as there is no content for it. No gaming.
  • 3D: not important
  • Viewing angle: about 10-20 degrees possible, but usually I would sit directly in front
  • Glare: I don't like reflections. If possible, no glare, but I'm realistic here - I suppose most TVs have it
  • Brightness: not so important since I use the TV only at night
  • Price: 1000-1500 EUR max (maybe I'll wait for Black Friday sale)
Some people recommended a plasma TV but I have serious doubts about burn-in. I have read reports of burnt-in DVD/Bluray menus, even menus of the TV itself! I don't want to be at the mercy of the shop or the manufacturer for a possible exchange, I definitely don't want that risk. Someone I know has a Panasonic Plasma and he had his panel exchanged three (!) times due to burn-in effects...
So I'd rather go the LCD route. OLED is the same thing, the technology is not realiable enough in my eyes and I won't use the TV enough to justify the price.

Could you make some recommendations please?
 

smitbret

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Burn-In is virutally non-existent on plasmas built in the last 3-5 years. You can/will get some image retention if you leave a static image up long enough but that will go away within a few minutes of watching something else.

You would have to leave the static image up for days to get it stuck at this point.
 

poofyhairguy

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Burn in is a slight problem for Panasonic plasma, but those are all gone. All we have left are Samsung and LG plasmas, and the Samsungs at least have no burn in problems what-so-ever.

If you are talking yourself out of a plasma while you can still get one you are basically avoiding the best picture quality you can get.
 

boxleitnerb

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If it is no problem, I would consider Plasma. I'll go to a store right now that has some Plasmas on display and have a look.
 

purbeast0

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Burn-In is virutally non-existent on plasmas built in the last 3-5 years. You can/will get some image retention if you leave a static image up long enough but that will go away within a few minutes of watching something else.

You would have to leave the static image up for days to get it stuck at this point.

i have a bit of burnin on my st50 that i got 2 years ago, so i wouldn't say it is non-existant. there are a few tv channel logos you can see in my bottom right corner if it is on a white background.
 

Childs

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Most plasmas have something to prevent image retention. On my ST50 I think its called pixel orbiter. Just make sure its enabled. On my set, if the size is set to 1:1 it is disabled! On my first set I had the MCE screensaver picture borders burned into my set. I had it replaced, changed the size to something with overscan, and I haven't had an issue with IR or burn in for years.
 

Slappy00

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OP,

I have a 60" samsung plasma I bought for ~$750USD at Costco.

I have the same setup as yours and the size and quality is perfect (Especially the blacks). The only thing I noticed was that at startup I notice a little bit of flickering, but when the TV warms up it is fine.

Specifically it was this:

Samsung 60" Class (59.9" Diag.) 1080p Plasma HDTV PN60F5350BFXZA
 

olds

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I have the Panasonic VT60. I use it for browsing the web. It has image retention in that I can see the top of my Chrome browser.
Running screen wipe for a day or so makes it nearly invisible but it comes back. Pixel orbiter is set to Auto.
 

Hinda65

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If it is no problem, I would consider Plasma. I'll go to a store right now that has some Plasmas on display and have a look.


Don't put too much stock in the Plasma display quality at your local stores....I never saw a Plasma that looked good at best buy or Costco. I couldn't be happier with mine now that I have it in my basement.
 

poofyhairguy

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OP,

I have a 60" samsung plasma I bought for ~$750USD at Costco.

I have the same setup as yours and the size and quality is perfect (Especially the blacks). The only thing I noticed was that at startup I notice a little bit of flickering, but when the TV warms up it is fine.

Specifically it was this:

Samsung 60" Class (59.9" Diag.) 1080p Plasma HDTV PN60F5350BFXZA

That is a great model.
 

Sho'Nuff

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Yeah that is a Panasonic thing. My ST60 has the Panasonic logo in the middle on a completely white background because it was the demo TV.

But the evidence clearly shows Samsung's don't have this problem:

http://www.cnet.com/news/samsung-plasma-wins-cnets-accidental-burn-in-test/

Not sure its a Panasonic thing. I have a Panasonic TH50PZ700U, which I bought in 2007. I've gamed on it endlessly, watched tons of football on it, left it on with static images on the screen for long periods of time, etc. No burn in whatsoever.
 

Pacfanweb

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Better hurry...Samsung is getting out of the Plasma business after this year.

I wouldn't even bother with any TV that LG makes, much less their Plasma. They are the worst one made. (unless Vizio or some other cheese manufacturer makes them)

There is a HUGE drop from a Samsung to an LG. I'd go with a decent LED from Sammy or Sony before an LG Plasma.