New Turtle Beach Catalina 7.1 sound card.......

Brian48

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Well, it looks like TB is trying to make a come back to the consumer-level sound card market. Has anyone got any more details regarding this card (besides what's on Voyetra's site)?

Turtle Beach Catalina 7.1 product page

I've been looking every where for a decent sound card with optical out to replace my aging Fortissimo III that WASN'T based on a the cut-down VIA Envy 24 HT-S (which I don't really consider to be that big of an upgrade from the Fortissimo).
 

sathyan

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whats the difference with the one I got 2 years ago, Santa Cruz

haven't heard it cannot comment on that - if its anything like my TBSC very impressive

but features-wise:
24/96 support via digital
optical out AND in (TBSC has no digital in)

better software:
MIDI sequencer
multitrack audio editor
WinDVD

it's also cheap - only $80
 

KGB1

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Impressive, maybe TB will actually come out with working driver's supporting 8 speakers, their last attempt with Santa Cruz was disapointing. Yes great hardware, but unstable driver's cannot be kept in a rig constantly on. My logitech z640 (yeah don't laught :( ) are okay, but the SB Live Value card really isn't really helping show the ability of the speakers. After some reviews of the card, maybe I can choose it instead of jumping on the Audigy2 bandwagon (admittedly it is the best sound card, however awfully expensive :( )
 

Vonkhan

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SWEET!!!

I still love the TB Santa Cruz in my backup rig, music quality was unbeatable for its day!

TB's drivers gave me much less of a headache than Creative's crapola :p
 

Brian48

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it's also cheap - only $80

Not if it's only an Envy24HT-S sound card. I can get equivalent clones for $20-30 and less. Even the Mad Dog Entertainer (MSRP $59.95) frequently goes on sale for $19.95 or $29.95. I was hoping the card is a full flown Envy24HT like the Revo or Prodigy 7.1, but the 16/48 analog eludes that it isn't. Did some checking and it's definitely an Envy based chip, just not sure which one.
 

Pariah

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4 years since the Santa Cruz was released, and this is what they came up with? Pretty disappointing. This company has fallen even further than Plextor has from it heyday.
 

AntecCSR

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So I e-mailed them asking when it'll ship:

Thank you for your interest in our Products.
It is expected to ship sometime next week.


Best regards,
Sam,
Turtle Beach Sales Team

AntecCSR
 

Maleficus

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I can't wait for the reviews to start pouring in, I love my TBSC.

I will never buy a POS Creative sound card.
 

CrackaLackaZe

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While the Santa Cruz was the first 6 Channel sound cards, the new lineup brings nothing new to the market. The Riviera is a C-Media CMI8738 based card, something that?s been around for nearly 3 years. Turtle Beach isn?t really doing anything to make the Riviera appeal to the target market. It uses reference drivers and doesn?t provide anything justify the $39.95 price tag compared to similar $15 CMI8738 sound cards. While it does include a Software bundle, most gamers, enthusiasts and even musicians wouldn?t care for it. The software bundle includes some music producing and editing applications in LE form. The Catalina is the worst of all. It is nothing more than a standard Envy 24HT-S sound card with a VIA AC?97 codec as a DAC. You?d think Turtle Beach would put forwards more effort and produce an Envy 24HT based card utilizing an AKM DAC, but instead we get the Catalina. For $80 you can have the Catalina which is much overpriced. The pricing on the Catalina is nearly 2.5 times the cost of the similar Gainward@Home, which can be had from Newegg for approximately $30.

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ckennylin

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Here's a preliminary review of the Catalina card. First, a little history:

I had been looking for an audio card that supports optical in, as there is some audio material I want to grab off my DirecTiVo, and since the DTivo is a bit bucket, I wanted to stay in the digital domain if at all possible.

My first stab at it was with a Chaintech AV-515M, which costs about $20 from Newegg. This is an affordable card with an optical-in that uses the C-Media chipset. At first, I was excited to get it working (FYI, DTiVos output at 48Khz, 16-bits) and thought all was good and dandy, and started to capture music from DirecTV Freeview and the various musical performances on the Talk Shows.

Then, I came across last week's "On the Record with Bob Costas," which featured Liz Phair performing an acoustic version of "Extraordinary", and as I listened to the resulting WAV files, my ears began to curdle. After some exhaustive A/B testing and tinkering with the W2K HAL (i.e. Standard PC vs ACPI vs ACPI Uniprocessor), I noticed that the S/PDIF monitor to speakers sound great as expected, but the resulting WAV had all kinds of audible distortion. Locating a block diagram on C-Media's website, I found that the monitor circuit went directly to audio out, while recording passes through a DSP.

Technically, this should have been a simple binary file transfer from the source to the PC, but some distortion got introduced along the way. Again, monitor sound great, recorded wavs did not. I haven't noticed it before as most of the material I captured was rock, so distortion was par for the course and was not terribly evident. The distortions became really noticable when it came to acoustic and vocals.

After some more surfing, I saw that TB had introduced the Catalina recently, and the reviews on the Sudhian forum thus far have not been encouraging. Having not much to lose, I picked up the OEM version from Newegg for $50+, and swapped it in just now to see how it performs.

Some quirks: if you choose Digital In as your source, all playback sources get disabled, though you can monitor the Digital In. To play back audio, you have to manually switch it back to speaker output. It's basically one or the other.

The verdict: Wow! The WAVs came out as expected, with none of the distortions. And to think I almost started to think of playing musical Toslink cables to try to isolate the problem.

For my intended use i.e. Digital-In recording, this card is SOLID, though it is quirky to have to manually switch between Digital In and playback. I don't have a 7.1 speaker system nor play games on my PC, so I can't really speak to those applications, but for the $50+ (OEM version), it's money well spent.

Anyone interested in my two test recordings can contact me directly. Hope this Helps!
 

Sunner

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Hmm, waiting for some reviews(well, a little bit in depth reviews;)).

Wow, my first DP ever I think...
Oh well, at least I know JRun still sucks after all these years...
 

Dug

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The Catalina is the worst of all. It is nothing more than a standard Envy 24HT-S sound card with a VIA AC?97 codec as a DAC. You?d think Turtle Beach would put forwards more effort and produce an Envy 24HT based card utilizing an AKM DAC, but instead we get the Catalina. For $80 you can have the Catalina which is much overpriced. The pricing on the Catalina is nearly 2.5 times the cost of the similar Gainward@Home, which can be had from Newegg for approximately $30.

That's enough of a review for me.
 

Brian48

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I think, for the most part, all the VIA Envy24HT-S cards are going to be similiar in performance and quality. From what I can see, the Catalina leans heavily on the reference design, just like the Mad Dog Entertainer 7.1, ChainTech AV-710, and Gainward Hollywood@Home. I would imagine reviews for the Catalina would be about the same as well.
 

Brian48

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Just a comment. As badly overpriced as the Catalina is, I think Turtle Beach's new Riviera is even worst. Would you play $40 for a CMI8738-based sound card when you can pick one up or $10 OR LESS?