New truck - Standard

JM Aggie08

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So for the past few years i've been spoiled on automatic transmissions and stepped it up to a standard i guess you could say.

The price was right so i took it and have been very pleased except one mundane detail....i've never driven stick before, let alone on a quarter ton truck. The thing is a beast.

So i kindly ask of you ATOT, what tips do you have for a young kid on making this learning process run smoothly and with less pain?

'98 Dodge 2500 5.9 V8 Single Cab

**Also**

It's been a while since the OP, therefor i know how to drive it now, just decided to post a picture since some had requested one.
 

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It's a truck. It probably has a shifter that is a 1/4 mile long and enough slop in the gear box to lose a Civic in it. It's not going to get that smooth.
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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Learn where the clutch engages. Push the clutch in, foot OFF of the gas pedal entirely, shifter into first, now slowly release clutch. Learn where it engages the gear, and once you can put the car into motion without using the gas pedal, you're golden.
 

JM Aggie08

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Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: JM Aggie08
Originally posted by: KK
ranger?

ram 2500

quarter ton? 2500 is more like a 3/4 ton I thought.

Edit, lets see some pics. 4WD?

3/4 is what i meant, and no pics yet.

4in lift, 4x4, 6 speed, single cab. pics tomorrow if interested.

and thanks agaboogaboo, i'll keep that in mind.
 

Howard

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Memorize the location (travel distance/throw) of full disengage. When you first learn standard, you should rev up to about 2k-2.5k while you find the engagement point, then gradually let the clutch in until it's all the way. At the same time, give more and more gas as more of the clutch engages. Once you become more proficient, accelerate gently once you feel the clutch grab.

One thing that helps is to start shifting at fixed points (say, 3k) and then memorizing the RPM of the next gear at the same speed. e.g. shift from 1st to 2nd at 3k RPM, then make a note of what RPM you're in right after you fully engage the clutch again (should be around 2-2.5k). This way, you know exactly how long to wait between clutch-out and clutch-in.
 

MegaVovaN

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I R DEMAND PICXZORZ

edit: I think he just earned a man card by buying huge ass truck. Not like you civic pussies.
 

Auric

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Standard refers to equipment included in the base price. That may be a manual transmission or an automatic (or something inbetwixt) depending upon the autocarriage (indeed in some cases an automatic may be standard and a manual or hybrid may be optional). Stick doesn't make any sense either as automatic transmissions are commonly operated by such levers. In conclusion: use the correct term manual transmission. Thank you.
 

JM Aggie08

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Originally posted by: Auric
Standard refers to equipment included in the base price. That may be a manual transmission or an automatic (or something inbetwixt) depending upon the autocarriage (indeed in some cases an automatic may be standard and a manual or hybrid may be optional). Stick doesn't make any sense either as automatic transmissions are commonly operated by such levers. In conclusion: use the correct term manual transmission. Thank you.

everyone else got it....

and thanks howard. pics will be up tomorrow! Ive had the title for just a few days so I'll snap a few in the daylight tomorrow.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: Auric
Standard refers to equipment included in the base price. That may be a manual transmission or an automatic (or something inbetwixt) depending upon the autocarriage (indeed in some cases an automatic may be standard and a manual or hybrid may be optional). Stick doesn't make any sense either as automatic transmissions are commonly operated by such levers. In conclusion: use the correct term manual transmission. Thank you.

"Stick" also refers to what you have up your ass if you're giving him shit about using the term "standard."
 

Auric

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Originally posted by: JM Aggie08

everyone else got it....

Err, ja, but that's not the point is it... hmm?

I would also like to take this opportunity to more precisely define Standard as refering to equipment included in the base configuration rather than price. /anal
 

Auric

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Originally posted by: BigJ

"Stick" also refers to what you have up your ass if you're giving him shit about using the term "standard."

Don't kill the messenger. :D

Oh yeah, wrong forum too. :p

 

BigJ

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mugs

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Auric
Standard refers to equipment included in the base price. That may be a manual transmission or an automatic (or something inbetwixt) depending upon the autocarriage (indeed in some cases an automatic may be standard and a manual or hybrid may be optional). Stick doesn't make any sense either as automatic transmissions are commonly operated by such levers. In conclusion: use the correct term manual transmission. Thank you.

"Stick" also refers to what you have up your ass if you're giving him shit about using the term "standard."

:laugh::thumbsup:

http://dictionary.reference.co...tandard%20transmission
 

JM Aggie08

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Originally posted by: Auric
Originally posted by: JM Aggie08

everyone else got it....

Err, ja, but that's not the point is it... hmm?

I would also like to take this opportunity to more precisely define Standard as refering to equipment included in the base configuration rather than price. /anal

chill out

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Is it a big bad diesel? If so the massive torque ought to make it pretty easy to learn on.

I wish so. from what my dad's told me it is one of the easiest standards he's driven so i guess i got lucky.
 

Auric

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Okay, go to a dealer selling a car with an automatic transmission as standard equipment and a manual as optional and then get into a drawn out "Who's on first" Abbott & Costello routine while trying to communicate that you want the manual while using the erroneous term standard.

Language is a communication tool. If intentionally used wrongishly then donut be surprisitated when misunderstanded.

/Seacrest out
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: Auric
Okay, go to a dealer selling a car with an automatic transmission as standard equipment and a manual as optional and then get into a drawn out "Who's on first" Abbott & Costello routine while trying to communicate that you want the manual while using the erroneous term standard.

Language is a communication tool. If intentionally used wrongishly then donut be surprisitated when misunderstanded.

/Seacrest out

"I'm looking for a new car but it's gotta have a standard transmission in it."
"Oh a manual eh? Sure let me show you what I have."
 

JM Aggie08

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Originally posted by: Auric
Okay, go to a dealer selling a car with an automatic transmission as standard equipment and a manual as optional and then get into a drawn out "Who's on first" Abbott & Costello routine while trying to communicate that you want the manual while using the erroneous term standard.

Language is a communication tool. If intentionally used wrongishly then donut be surprisitated when misunderstanded.

/Seacrest out

get outta my thread. if i wanted to know the proper terminology on how to address my transmission, my thread would've been titled "Anal vehicle vocabulary."

troll
 

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Let the clutch in until you feel it start to grab. Then give it some gas. Then let the clutch in some more. Repeat as needed until you get going. Eventually it'll become instinct.
 

Auric

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Originally posted by: BigJ

"I'm looking for a new car but it's gotta have a standard transmission in it."
"Oh a manual eh? Sure let me show you what I have."

That would be the worst Vaudeville routine evar!

 

jagec

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Originally posted by: Auric
Originally posted by: BigJ

"I'm looking for a new car but it's gotta have a standard transmission in it."
"Oh a manual eh? Sure let me show you what I have."

That would be the worst Vaudeville routine evar!

Yeah, the only way to revive that one would be to give the guy two kids, one named Clutch and the other Torque Converter.

Originally posted by: JM Aggie08
So for the past few years i've been spoiled on automatic transmissions

You mean "deprived."

Tips: Practice, practice. Let the clutch out slow on first for the sake of smoothness, then as fast as you like on the other gears. You've usually got to rev the engine a bit before letting out the clutch to keep it from stalling, but don't rev it a whole bunch otherwise you'll burn it. Screwing up a few times is fine, but if you're doing it at every stoplight, expect to have to buy a new clutch before too long. You've got lots of torque, so it's less important to rev a lot than with other cars. No need to rev to change gears once you're moving, just go off throttle, push in clutch, shift, let out clutch smoothly. Don't worry about it if you're jerky at first, just practice. You'll get faster and smoother with time.
 

Throckmorton

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That is a sweet vehicle. I can only imagine how much fun it would be to drive a diesel manual truck. I'd be shifting at 1500rpm. Be careful offroad though.