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Lifer
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I doubt it'll have any significant impact whatsoever. Between seeking money and/or popularity those that walk away are going to be a huge minority.

How can you measure? With the injuries, salary cap, and free agency rules there is a good argument being made the talent pool is drying up and --men-- with athletic abilities are going elsewhere.
 

Red Squirrel

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I'd do the same. Play a couple years, make some millions, and retire on the pile of cash while I'm still healthy. Same with any million dollar job really.
 

Drako

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LOL, Borland's family are very well off.

He can go anywhere, or do anything he wants. He's an undersized middle linebacker who excelled in college on guts an determination. He is smart enough to realize that he can do better in the family business.

Go Kettering
 

Strk

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Wasn't there a thing a while back about how a lot of football players actually live much shorter lives? Like 50ish years or something like that
 

Sulaco

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No, you're the one that is sad and pathetic. Create stupid and annoying thread after another. Maybe, getting a job at age 40 might be a productive thing for you instead of leeching off your parents. Oh right, China is calling. The only place that would hire you.

Best post in this thread.

:thumbsup:
 

Thebobo

Lifer
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No, you're the one that is sad and pathetic. Create stupid and annoying thread after another. Maybe, getting a job at age 40 might be a productive thing for you instead of leeching off your parents. Oh right, China is calling. The only place that would hire you.

You itching to run more folks away from AT?
 

Genx87

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One thing that hasnt been brought up is the new collective bargaining agreement that set limits on rookie contracts. A lot of these guys, including Borland arent making millions right out of college. Was this a poison pill inserted by the league and agreed to by the players union to head off good players cashing out early?

Russell Wilson was a 3rd round pick and made about 600K last year. Great money by most standards. But not something he could really retire on in his mid 20s.
 

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One thing that hasnt been brought up is the new collective bargaining agreement that set limits on rookie contracts. A lot of these guys, including Borland arent making millions right out of college. Was this a poison pill inserted by the league and agreed to by the players union to head off good players cashing out early?

Russell Wilson was a 3rd round pick and made about 600K last year. Great money by most standards. But not something he could really retire on in his mid 20s.

Nah, that was really just put there to protect the team. You are only on the hook for so much money if a first rounder busts. Plus you don't have rookies holding out for fat contracts disrupting your pre-season and getting them involved with your team activities.

Now it's just a basic formula of we have $XX million allotted to us, your draft position is worth $$ and that's for four years.

Done. No drama. No hype. Sign and shut up.
 

Retro Rob

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http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/17/football/chris-borland-retirement-nfl-concussions/

http://www.cnn.com/videos/sports/20...land-nfl-49ers-quits-over-concussion-fear.hln

Seems that there are a few NFL players who have decided to walk away from their million dollar contracts so they can protect their health.

Chris Boland is concerned with issues concerning head trauma.

I don't think Boland wanted to "protect his health". He seems to have wanted to go out with a statment because he probably doesn't really want to play football anymore -- no longer has the desire or passion.

That's the only thing that would make someone basically give up a sport he's been playing his whole life basically, especially THIS early.

I respect his right and choice to leave becasue he lacks passion and desire...I don't really believe this was motivated by something that has a strong possiblity of not happening 20 or 30 years from now.
 

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The reality of the NFL is that so long as the superbowl gets 115 million people to watch it, stadiums continue to fill up with ever rising ticket prices, and people keep buying jerseys and team branded stuff and teams are paying people millions of dollars to do it...it will continue to exist.

So what if there's a slow decline in the number of kids playing. There's that million dollar carrot hanging out there that's *even easier* to get now that there's less people competing for it.

The demographics of many NFL players are such that even a year in the NFL is more money than most of them will see in a lifetime. It's more money than their family has ever seen. It's the lottery ticket that's 20 years in the making.

So long as people still tune in, still fill stadiums, and still buy jerseys and sweatshirts it's going to continue. So long as players are paid hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars a year it's going to continue.

Some suburbanite family that holds their kid out and puts him in hockey skates or on a lacrosse field isn't going to end the league. For every one of them, there's 50 kids from some small southern town, inner city ghetto, or dust bowl in texas wanting to punch a meal ticket in their absence.
 

Mai72

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No, you're the one that is sad and pathetic. Create stupid and annoying thread after another. Maybe, getting a job at age 40 might be a productive thing for you instead of leeching off your parents. Oh right, China is calling. The only place that would hire you.
Haha. Nope, you are pathetic.

They say the internet is full of ignorant and sad people. Well guess what? You just proved it. You and the other idiot who decided to invade my thread. I didn't ask you for your opinion. Get the f*ck out of my thread you worthless POS.

If I saw u in public I'd tell you to your face that you're worthless and an idiot. I would lay down my life savings that you're fat, disgusting and a nasty vile person to be around.

Lol, I must have gotten u so mad that you needed to invite yourself in my thread. You know you could have just avoided my thread? Move along because you're not welcome. Idiot. Hahahaha. :).
 

Mai72

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Mods you can close this thread. Its been infected with a few idiots who decided to voice their opinion. Like I give a rats ass.

Just lock the thread. :).
 

Capt Caveman

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Haha. Nope, you are pathetic.

They say the internet is full of ignorant and sad people. Well guess what? You just proved it. You and the other idiot who decided to invade my thread. I didn't ask you for your opinion. Get the f*ck out of my thread you worthless POS.

If I saw u in public I'd tell you to your face that you're worthless and an idiot. I would lay down my life savings that you're fat, disgusting and a nasty vile person to be around.

Lol, I must have gotten u so mad that you needed to invite yourself in my thread. You know you could have just avoided my thread? Move along because you're not welcome. Idiot. Hahahaha. :).

LMAO. I'm guess you don't have very much in life savings since you're jobless and the only jobs you can get our low paying English teaching jobs in foreign countries.

Yes, I'm fat. Only training for my 3rd Boston Marathon. I was actually in NYC last weekend to run in the NYC Half Marathon. Pretty cool running thru Times Square that I actually stopped to take a pic.

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So butthurt, don't like to be called out then don't make stupid threads. Everyone would appreciate it. Keep the money that your parents give you, you need it much more than me. Oh, and disgusting? You're the one that needs to pay someone in another country to be your gf.
 
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Vdubchaos

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I'm surprised it's even that long.

All of the drugs and physical harm they are exposed to, I would think it would be much earlier.
 

Zargon

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That was pretty much my reaction when I saw this on the front page of the Washington Post this morning.

As another NFL player retires early, football’s future comes under scrutiny
agin, 6 this yearm, under 30, and a few last year

I'd do the same. Play a couple years, make some millions, and retire on the pile of cash while I'm still healthy. Same with any million dollar job really.

he will have barely made a million bucks if he played 2 years. FYI

I don't think Boland wanted to "protect his health". He seems to have wanted to go out with a statment because he probably doesn't really want to play football anymore -- no longer has the desire or passion.

That's the only thing that would make someone basically give up a sport he's been playing his whole life basically, especially THIS early.

I respect his right and choice to leave becasue he lacks passion and desire...I don't really believe this was motivated by something that has a strong possiblity of not happening 20 or 30 years from now.

the #'s look more like he WILL have issues

the NFL got busted for basically publishling a fake study to support it not being an issue
 
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I respect his right and choice to leave becasue he lacks passion and desire...I don't really believe this was motivated by something that has a strong possiblity of not happening 20 or 30 years from now.

What. Brain damage to football players was seen in highschool players and players under 40.
 

GasX

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Mods you can close this thread. Its been infected with a few idiots who decided to voice their opinion. Like I give a rats ass.

Just lock the thread. :).
you don't own the thread. try simply sticking to the topic instead of wanking yourself
 

unokitty

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...football won't ever die; instead, the socio-economic demographics of the game will change. Middle class and upper middle class families and athletes will abandon it largely to those of lower income levels, much as with boxing. This stratification will not be a good development, on several levels. Business-wise, it could damage football's appeal.

Steinberg said all of this stuff more than a year ago. Basically, he was seeing the future. Chris Borland's father operates a successful financial planning firm in a leafy suburb of Dayton, Ohio. This makes Borland different from NFL players from less-privileged backgrounds, players who might have an entire extended family relying on him financially. Even if those players ponder early retirement, those other considerations carry considerable weight.

Borland leaving football is no big deal. But hundreds of Borlands leaving football -- or thousands of potential Borlands not even taking up the game because their parents won't allow them to play high school football -- would be a very big deal. Borland played the game with passion as an All-American at Wisconsin and led the 49ers in tackles last season by going full-tilt. You don't do all that if you hate the game. That is Steinberg's point.

Things change. Even Coach Dikta is questioning football's worth.

It's worth wondering what made Ditka change his mind. Perhaps it's the number of ways the NFL has shown it doesn't care about players' interests above its own. Perhaps it's the growing litany of evidence of the tangible dangers of football. Perhaps it's simply getting too hard for even Ditka to outrun the negatives of a game that has been so good to him. Notably, Ditka has joined the growing number of parents who wouldn't let their children play football. "That's sad. I wouldn't. And my whole life was football," he told Gumbel. "I think the risk is worse than the reward."

A few years ago, I worked with a fellow that had played at Northwestern. Bright fellow PhD in Math.

Good college player. On the cover of Sport's Illustrated. But, due to injuries, only a brief pro career.

He was in his late 30s or early 40s. Had had both of his hips replaced. Was going to have both of them replaced again.

To me no amount of money in the world would make that worthwhile...

Uno
 

Mai72

Lifer
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LMAO. I'm guess you don't have very much in life savings since you're jobless and the only jobs you can get our low paying English teaching jobs in foreign countries.

Yes, I'm fat. Only training for my 3rd Boston Marathon. I was actually in NYC last weekend to run in the NYC Half Marathon. Pretty cool running thru Times Square that I actually stopped to take a pic.

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So butthurt, don't like to be called out then don't make stupid threads. Everyone would appreciate it. Keep the money that your parents give you, you need it much more than me. Oh, and disgusting? You're the one that needs to pay someone in another country to be your gf.

1) You don't know anything about me. I have enough money. You'd be surprised at what I've saved, and I have money from an inheritance.

2) I see you responded quickly. I must have really gotten you upset.

3) I was teaching special education for a number of years before I left for Korea? Why did I leave? Because my mother died and life is extremely short. I wanted to live and work in another country.

4) I taught for a year in a lower tier hagwon, but my second year to taught in an international school. Big difference.

6) Finally, I don't need to validate what I do to you. Who the hell are you? You're a nobody just like the majority of us. You had a few options. You could have a) posted something positive like the majority of other members. b) ignored my thread. c) posted something negative. You picked C. That shows me that you're a very negative person. You kinda remind me off the trolls that have taken over Twitter. They don't like a post so they trash the person who tweeted. Instead they could have just ignored it.

Have a great day. :)
 
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Capt Caveman

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1) You don't know anything about me. I have enough money. You'd be surprised at what I've saved, and I have money from an inheritance.

2) I see you responded quickly. I must have really gotten you upset.

3) I was teaching special education for a number of years before I left for Korea? Why did I leave? Because my mother died and life is extremely short. I wanted to live and work in another country.

4) I taught for a year in a lower tier hagwon, but my second year to taught in an international school. Big difference.

6) Finally, I don't need to validate what I do to you. Who the hell are you? You're a nobody just like the majority of us. You had a few options. You could have a) posted something positive like the majority of other members. b) ignored my thread. c) posted something negative. You picked C. That shows me that you're a very negative person. You kinda remind me off the trolls that have taken over Twitter. They don't like a post so they trash the person who tweeted. Instead they could have just ignored it.

Have a great day. :)

It's a lunch break dumbass. Again, I'm not the only one that has called out your annoying/stupid threads, you would think you'd learn but annoying trolls are annoying trolls.

So, not going to lay down your life saving since I'm in better shape than you'll ever be. You can go to the Health and Fitness forum and count up the 1000s miles I've posted in the running thread. More bs from a troll.
 

purbeast0

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why don't you two love birds to rent a room and fuck eachother? holy shit you guys are annoying as hell.