New to S@H!

[SpeedFreak03]

I just joined the AT Seti@home team! Ive been wanting to do it for a while now but my old computer wasnt up to it, but since I built myself a new one now I have no excuse not to (specs in sig)! What should I put in my sig now that I am a member lol? Is there anything else I have to do to "finalize" it (I followed the instructions from here: Text the CLI ones)? Im 56% on my second WU and I started around 11 or 12, so is this good? I plan to use my old box as a dedicated system for S@H or maybe a different project (its an Athlon 850MHz 320MB PC100 sdram), would it be fast/worth it to run S@H or should I do a different project (maybe Find a Drug or Folding at home)? Thanks and I plan to stay here for a looooooooooong time!

-Josh

 

[amdxborg]

Welcome to TA SETI SpeedFreak03!!!

If you've installed the client, registered with SETI and joined TA, ur allready there!

If ur interested in joining another project, join DPAD, http://www.stephenbrooks.org/muon1/

DPAD is way cool!!!

 

[titanmiller]

Welcome to Team Anandtech!

I would suggest that you set up SetiQueue on the 850 Athlon assuming that you have a network, this way all of your clients will connect to that computer when they finish thier WU, download a new one and start on it. You can configure the Queue to automaicaly upload/download results/Work Units when ever you want. Doing this means you will not have to waiste any time sending results.

 

[SpeedFreak03]

Thanks for all the welcomes! So on the Athlon if I load this SetiQueue, it will download work orders from my P4, complete the WUs, then send 'em back to my P4? That sounds good! And what about my Celeron 333MHz or P2 266MHz and 64MB ram? Would DPAD work well on that? And which CPU would be faster for DC projects, the 266 P2, or the 333 Celeron? Thanks for all the help, Josh

 

[amdxborg]

The SetiQueue downloads a bunch of workunits, so if the SETI server is down, you'll have some wu queued to process. It doesn't matter on which pc u install SetiQueue on.

Any pc would be great for DPAD!!! Hope to see u soon in DPAD!!!

 

[SpeedFreak03]

Oh and then the Athlon can get the WUs off my main box? Thats cool but I might do it the other way around (so the athlon can be busy downloading WUs and my P4 wont have to). I think im gonna go fire up that old rig and run DPAD! And BTW like the new sig ?

-Josh

 

[SpeedFreak03]

oh crap I see that DPAD is windows only (i have linux on that rig now). But it looks like an awesome project! I think I will go load NT4 on it and let it rip!

-Josh

 

[Wiz]

The P2 has larger cache - 512K versus the 128K on the celery. Bigger cache helps in Seti.
If you are able to OC either and get a higher bus speed that would be most helpful, for instance running the 333 on a 100fsb would make the cpu run at 500mhz. Lots of those were capable of that kind of speed, but it depends on your ram, OC ability of the MB etc. Even if you can run it a 500 mhz you would be lucky to get more than 2 seti WU's / day out of it. That being said, every cycle counts!
Obviously if you can run the P2 on a 100fsb that would be even better.

 

[amdxborg]

I don't know if there is a DPAD for Linux, but if ur willing to waste it and maybe install Win2k or some other windows, then that's fine.

If you want to know how to setup DPAD, you can checkout some of this posts in this thread:

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=39&threadid=1209514&FTVAR_MSGDBTABLE=

or read this post by DanC:

A. A running machine... and a willing spirit?

Seriously - Just any Windoze machine should do the trick. Every WU is one more than we had before! This is a David/Goliath scenario... just like we like 'em here!

Many thanks to those beginning... and re-beginning!

Here's the short version of how to get started.

1. Create a directory called "Muon"
2. Download this zip file to your muon directory
3. Unzip the above file
4. Copy this text, and paste into a file named "results.dat"
5. Open notepad, enter "[TA]Username" - where "Username" is YOU!
6. Save above file as "user.txt"
7. Invoke "muon1.exe" (graphical version) or "muon1_background" (background mode) or "muon1_cmdline" (DOS window)

That's it. You're running. The client will create a file called "results.txt" - this is what will be sent to the server upon upload of results. You may choose to wait until it gets to 100Kb in size - then it will dump (using FTP) on its own, or you can use manual upload. In any event - you'll need to have at least 10kb in results.txt in order to dump.

The only other thing is making an adjustment to "config.txt" if you have multiple processors.

Pretty easy!

BTW like the new sig!

 

[SpeedFreak03]

Almost finished my second WU in Seti@home on the P4, its at 97.82% and total time is 2:27 minutes! I would run Seti on the P2 but I think I would get more out of it running DPAD. Im gonna set up SetiQueue and put it on the Athlon soon (that runs WinXP Pro). Hardly anybody uses it so seti will have a lot of time to be at 100% full load. I have it set up to use only 1 logical CPU on the P4, but its running at 100% on that logical CPU the whole time, so it gets a lot done and I dont see a slowdown. Alright im gonna go get the Athlon and the P2 crunchin' (and overclocked hopefully)! The P2 will be sitting in my basement with no monitor or anything, its just a spare, but the Athlon is hooked up and used for occasional web browsing etc, but its on 24x7 anyway. Whoa I just relized im on 5% on WU #3 (ive only been typing for like 5-10 minutes)! Also, one quick question, where can I find out my stats?

-Josh

 

[Overkiller]

Awesome job m8!

Welcome to both seti and DPAD

Dpad is a small project with very worthy goals (the study of neutrinos to build the 1.9 Billion dollar factory which is occuring AS we speak! along witht he possible transmutation of nuclear waste into harmless elements!

And i think the P2 would make more of an "impact" in dpad than in Seti b/c it should do about 1.5-2 WU/day on seti which isn't "a lot" while any amount helps with a new project such as Dpad

Either way welcome to the TeAm...simply the best team out there

 

[SpeedFreak03]

Well the P2's PSU is acting up, so I think I will load DPAD on the Athlon for now until I get the P2 up and running again. And I was thinking, since the P4 does them so fast, I should prolly just run DPAD on the Athlon and P2 once they are both running.

-Josh

 

[SpeedFreak03]

I got DPAD running on the Athlon (im currently using the Athlon and it doesnt feel slower with muon running). So I just let it run and never touch it, and it will automatically download new work and upload finished work? Thats easy! Im running the background program so if anyone else uses the computer it won't be interupted.

-Josh

 

[amdxborg]

Hi SpeedFreak03, welcome to DPAD!!!

For ur SETI stats:

http://smokeball.gygabyte.com/setistats.cgi?compare=SpeedFreak03
and
http://www.soni.dk/Distributed/ShowHistory.asp?SitesID=1&UserID=6397

and for ur DPAD stats:

http://muon.dcstats.de/index.php?id=4&team=[TA]

DPAD will automatically upload the results when the result.txt file reaches 100k and will then download a new one. You can manually upload a result if the result.txt file reaches 10k or more by running the manualsend.bat file, this way ur name will appear sooner on the DPAD stats.

Good luck and enjoy!!!

 

[Overkiller]

Welcome to the team speedfreak,

Also another thing about the client is that it "learns" from itself. You are trying to model essentially the best way of creating the highest muon transfer. The client "learns" from its previous trials and improves over time as it tries to achieve the maximum transfer rate. what it "downloads" every 3 days (configurable in config.txt) is a "best of" 100 file that has a healthy mix of the top transfers along with certain "interesting" designs that need to be explored further.

Its great if everyone is maxing out @ 10% muon transfer rate but what "if" there's an oddboll design (random) that can top out @ say 12?....

This is the cool thing about this client and project...the client is a "work" unto itself

 

[Soggysocks]

I see you have been parts and piecing the good stuff together to make a better system.

P2's run win 2k really good. I had Win 2k server running on my HP Pavillion P2-300mhz with 192 meg's of ram. Thing never died......it's just that it wasn't fast at seti or anything else , accept web surfing. Gave it to the wife and she liked it until she saw the neat stuff they stuck into XP. Games mostly So I had to get the Dell 1 Gig set-up for her with XP. She's happy now, but I have more stuff to do to keep it going. Oh And welcome to the team :beer::beer:

 

[compudog]

SpeedFreak03 that's awesome. Welcome to both Seti and DPAD TeAms!!! It's great to have you here!! It seems you have things well under control. Keep on crunching!

 

[SpeedFreak03]

Thanks for the rest of the welcomes! But sadly the P2 and its mobo are messed up from that bad PSU (that thing started smoking!), so I had to resort to my P1 MMX 233MHz, with 80MB PC100 SDRAM. I put NT4 workstation on it, but when I started DPAD it said that this program has made an illegal opperation. It runs fine on my Athlon 850 with XP though... what should I do?

-Josh

BTW im gonna post this in the DPAD new members thread also cause this thread was supposed to be for S@H, which BTW im 63.95% done WU #6!

 

[SpeedFreak03]

One more quick question about SETI: How could I get it to run so that my CPU load is at 100% while my screensaver is on (actually i have it set for blank screen then a minute later the monitor goes into sleep mode), but then when my screensaver is off, it is at 50% load? Currently it is at 50% load all the time.

-Josh

 

[Freewolf]

If the machine is a p4 with hyperthreading and you are only running one instance of seti then the cpu is only running at 50%. My work machine is a py hyperthreaded and it does 12 work units a day and runs one of our team q's was well as me using it for work. You could even set the other instance to be another project besides seti without problems.

 

[SpeedFreak03]

Oh I get it lol! So if I was on a non-HT machine (but Seti was set up the same exact way) it would be at 100% CPU usage? Thats pretty cool then!

-Josh

 

[Freewolf]

Thats it

 

[Overkiller]

are you using any utilities such as seti driver or seti queue? i use seti driver and setting up 2 instances is as easy as replacing the 1 w./ a 2

 

[titanmiller]

Originally posted by: Overkiller
are you using any utilities such as seti driver or seti queue? i use seti driver and setting up 2 instances is as easy as replacing the 1 w./ a 2

If you P4 supports HT definantly run 2 processes, your WU times will go up (towards 3:00) but you will be completing 2 in that ammount of time.