New Thermalright HSF

error8

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Originally posted by: RallyMaster
I think it's going to perform with mediocrity.

Depends on its size. I have no idea how big it is just by looking at that photo.
 

yh125d

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I thought squirrel fans (generally speaking) while although moving a lot of air, were also quite a bit louder than their more conventional counterparts?

The problem I see with this design is, there's no way to direct the airflow. With most tower coolers you can face the fans to blow the hot air to the back of the case or to the top, where there are typically exhaust fans to remove it, but with this most of the CPU heat will just be dumped right back into the case..


I agree with rallymaster, I expect mediocrity
 

error8

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Originally posted by: yh125d

I agree with rallymaster, I expect mediocrity

The thing is that Thermalright never had a cooler that was meant for mid range or low end market. All that they have produced were and are top end coolers. So releasing a meadiocre cooler doesn't seem normal for them.

It looks rather efficient: it has 6 U shape heat pipes and a hell of a lot of aluminium fins. But like you've said, the downside might be the fan, which looks like a screamer, at least on high rpm and the fact that it spreads the hot air all over the place and not directing it to a specific location where it can be exhausted. It's an interesting design and I can't wait too see how it performs. It's hard for Thermalright to let people down. ;)
 

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Interesting...TT has a new one with the same concept:
http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/...ct.aspx?C=1405&ID=1831

The squirrel fans I've always had a problem with have been the ones used on video cards and PCI slot fans, where half of the airflow runs right into a wall. Maybe the airflow going directly through fins will eliminate some of that noise you normally associate with rodents.

I am worried though that the members of TR that allegedly left to form Prolimatech were the ones with the good ideas, and new TR products are going to be based on the guys who stayed with the bad ideas.

-z
 

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Looks...
expensive
fugly
non-user friendly (see fan swapping and installation)
noisy

I expect it to perform decent but I would never use it in my case...
 

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Originally posted by: zagood
Interesting...TT has a new one with the same concept:
http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/...ct.aspx?C=1405&ID=1831

The squirrel fans I've always had a problem with have been the ones used on video cards and PCI slot fans, where half of the airflow runs right into a wall. Maybe the airflow going directly through fins will eliminate some of that noise you normally associate with rodents.

I am worried though that the members of TR that allegedly left to form Prolimatech were the ones with the good ideas, and new TR products are going to be based on the guys who stayed with the bad ideas.

-z

I fear that too (considering the Prolimatech Megahalem >= TR Ultra 120 with similar design.

But it looks like it will be a tower, rather than a horizontally opposed mount like Thermaltake, which looks like it would be a decent replacement for "blow-down" coolers in cases with a duct.
 

error8

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Originally posted by: Scoop
Yes looks much like the TT SpinQ. Expect the performance to be at the same low level.

The only things that are the same, is the cylinder shape of the cooler and probably the fan. If you look carefully, Thermalright has way more aluminium fins on it and 12 heatpipes, instead of 6 on the TT. Also, it stands perpendicular on the motherboard, not parallel. So I would say that there are quite some differences that can really make the thermalright much better then the thermaltake cooler.
 

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Originally posted by: error8
Originally posted by: Scoop
Yes looks much like the TT SpinQ. Expect the performance to be at the same low level.

The only things that are the same, is the cylinder shape of the cooler and probably the fan. If you look carefully, Thermalright has way more aluminium fins on it and 12 heatpipes, instead of 6 on the TT. Also, it stands perpendicular on the motherboard, not parallel. So I would say that there are quite some differences that can really make the thermalright much better then the thermaltake cooler.

Fair enough. I think the only certainty is that it will be a screamer. With a tight fin spacing like that, the blower fan has to spin quite fast to effectively dissipate the heat from the fins and pipes. Doesn't look like there's much room for any air to go through :D
 

error8

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Originally posted by: Scoop
I think the only certainty is that it will be a screamer.

Yeah. That fan resembles with my 4870 fan, so, the screaming is guaranteed, especially at high rpm.:laugh:
 

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Originally posted by: error8
The thing is that Thermalright never had a cooler that was meant for mid range or low end market. All that they have produced were and are top end coolers. So releasing a meadiocre cooler doesn't seem normal for them.

Actually IIRC they had a midrange cooler back in the day. It was all aluminum (maybe copper base) and looked kind of like an "H."

More recently they have had the Ultra 90 series of small tower heatpipe units that were pretty cheap (for a Thermalright).

Originally posted by: yh125d
I thought squirrel fans (generally speaking) while although moving a lot of air, were also quite a bit louder than their more conventional counterparts?

Actually IIRC they push less air than an axial fan, but at higher pressures...

Originally posted by: Scoop
With a tight fin spacing like that, the blower fan has to spin quite fast to effectively dissipate the heat from the fins and pipes.

... thus they can push air through restrictive heatsinks more effectively than an axial fan.

The other aspect is that they blow out air at a 90º angle from the intake, making them ideal for many video card fansinks.

Noise level has to do with RPM and vane design. Blowers/squirrel cage fans can be quiet, but of course will move very little air.

I can remember years ago buying $10 Nidec Gamma 28 blowers from Radio Shack to cool my Voodoo 3 card and overclocked Celeron using modded heatsinks. Thanks for the memories.

Oh yeah, the idea with this Thermalright might be to squeeze high performance into a small package. Lots of fins and heatpipes compressed into a small space means a blower is needed to squeeze the air through.
 

error8

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I believe it's going to be something after all. It can't fail. Thermalright never failed me. :)
 

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Originally posted by: error8
I believe it's going to be something after all. It can't fail. Thermalright never failed me. :)

Got caught in that ridiculous hype in the article? :D

I still have my doubts :)
 

error8

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Originally posted by: Scoop
Originally posted by: error8
I believe it's going to be something after all. It can't fail. Thermalright never failed me. :)

Got caught in that ridiculous hype in the article? :D

Didn't read the article, just looked at the pictures. :laugh: