New Tahoe sees 53% increase in Jan. Sales

MikeMike

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GM had a 7% decrease in retail sales, but Fleet sales helped up both Ford and GM. however the new tahoe...

http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/060201/autos_sales.html?.v=3

One important pocket of strength for GM in January was its new Tahoe SUV, which saw a 53-percent sales increase. GM is banking on a series of redesigned SUVs and pickup trucks, many of which have yet to be launched, to stem its sales slide.

In keeping with a continuing trend, sales of Ford's large Expedition SUV declined 30 percent, while its mid-size Explorer was down nearly 23 percent.

30+23 = 53!!!

i wonder....
 

AMDZen

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Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: AMDZen
So which is it - decrease or increase

its an increase

Didn't see that one coming. I saw decrease in the thread title, and though - well that figures. After I saw that it increased that much I was lost and confused.
 

redgtxdi

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Yes, you need to fix.......edit: title!


I thought Tahoe sales took a dump!!

Sounds like Chevy did something right on the Tahoe!


Too bad for Ford.........I figured the Explorer would push things higher.

MPG is slightly in Ford's favor on the Explorer & supposedly the new Explorer is MUCH refined.

The Tahoe is .............well.............a Chevy!
 

MikeMike

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Originally posted by: redgtxdi
Yes, you need to fix.......edit: title!


I thought Tahoe sales took a dump!!

Sounds like Chevy did something right on the Tahoe!


Too bad for Ford.........I figured the Explorer would push things higher.

MPG is slightly in Ford's favor on the Explorer & supposedly the new Explorer is MUCH refined.

The Tahoe is .............well.............a Chevy!

MPG in the Explorers favor????

you blind?
 

BigSmooth

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In any case, it's normal for sales numbers to spike when an all-new model is released. As a side note, they actually started producing the "2007" model year Tahoe in December of 2005.
 

MikeMike

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Originally posted by: BigSmooth
In any case, it's normal for sales numbers to spike when an all-new model is released. As a side note, they actually started producing the "2007" model year Tahoe in December of 2005.

yea. that is true. and it was ahead of schedule
 

EvilYoda

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yeah, I think it's a combination of the fact that it's a new model and that it's actually a respectable iteration. I think I'll go drive one soon...haven't driven a Yukon/Tahoe in a while.
 

Pocatello

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Originally posted by: BigSmooth
In any case, it's normal for sales numbers to spike when an all-new model is released. As a side note, they actually started producing the "2007" model year Tahoe in December of 2005.

Chevy needs this one in a hurry, so production moved ahead of schedule by a few months. The Ford Explorer is new, but you wouldn't know it. Ford has a problem with designing cars too conservatively. The Freestar looks exactly like the Windstar. The Taurus never got updated. Ford knows how to kill a successful model (except the Winstar/Freestar, which never was successful). The Ford Focus could had been a winner, but with so many recalls and now it's stale bread. Ford made a huge mistake when it thinks the new Focus from Europe is too good for Americans, people can always buy the new Civic. People will pay premium for compact sedans, if the car is well-built, that's how Corollas and Civics conquer the segment.
 

iamwiz82

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53% increase because sales were in the dumps the entire rest of the year. They were down almost 20% November YTD from 2004. A 53% increase puts it at just about 10,000 unites for the month, making the difference between 2004 and 2005 at almost 22,000 Tahoes.
 

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
53% increase because sales were in the dumps the entire rest of the year. They were down almost 20% November YTD from 2004. A 53% increase puts it at just about 10,000 unites for the month, making the difference between 2004 and 2005 at almost 22,000 Tahoes.


And gas price is spiking up already, I would think it would hit over $3/gal this summer again. But then, if you're buying a $30K-40K SUV, you can afford the gas.
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: Pocatello
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
53% increase because sales were in the dumps the entire rest of the year. They were down almost 20% November YTD from 2004. A 53% increase puts it at just about 10,000 unites for the month, making the difference between 2004 and 2005 at almost 22,000 Tahoes.


And gas price is spiking up already, I would think it would hit over $3/gal this summer again. But then, if you're buying a $30K-40K SUV, you can afford the gas.

The funny thing about this is that people will go buy Civics and Focuses and then end up spending more on insurance, so it's pretty much a wash anyways. The difference (gas + insurance) between the MINI we had and Explorer we have puts the Explorer ahead, per month.
 

Ktulu

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Originally posted by: redgtxdi
Yes, you need to fix.......edit: title!


I thought Tahoe sales took a dump!!

Sounds like Chevy did something right on the Tahoe!


Too bad for Ford.........I figured the Explorer would push things higher.

MPG is slightly in Ford's favor on the Explorer & supposedly the new Explorer is MUCH refined.

The Tahoe is .............well.............a Chevy!

dude, you're way off, Tahoe is ahead of the game when it comes to SUV mpg, and when the Hybrids come in to play, no one will come close.
 

MikeMike

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
53% increase because sales were in the dumps the entire rest of the year. They were down almost 20% November YTD from 2004. A 53% increase puts it at just about 10,000 unites for the month, making the difference between 2004 and 2005 at almost 22,000 Tahoes.



Tahoe 8,558 13,395 -30.8 8,558 13,395 -30.8

(05/04/%change)

so this means that Chevy sold almost as many SUVs in January this year, as is did in 2004 before fuel price surges. 13094 Tahoes
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
GM had a 7% decrease in retail sales, but Fleet sales helped up both Ford and GM. however the new tahoe...

http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/060201/autos_sales.html?.v=3

One important pocket of strength for GM in January was its new Tahoe SUV, which saw a 53-percent sales increase. GM is banking on a series of redesigned SUVs and pickup trucks, many of which have yet to be launched, to stem its sales slide.

In keeping with a continuing trend, sales of Ford's large Expedition SUV declined 30 percent, while its mid-size Explorer was down nearly 23 percent.

30+23 = 53!!!

i wonder....

Unless the Tahoe's old sales = Expeditions old sales + Exploder's old sales, it's purely a coincidence.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
The funny thing about this is that people will go buy Civics and Focuses and then end up spending more on insurance, so it's pretty much a wash anyways. The difference (gas + insurance) between the MINI we had and Explorer we have puts the Explorer ahead, per month.

Something doesn't add up there. Liability insurance should be more expensive for a larger vehicle, because they do more damage in an accident.
 

Muadib

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
The funny thing about this is that people will go buy Civics and Focuses and then end up spending more on insurance, so it's pretty much a wash anyways. The difference (gas + insurance) between the MINI we had and Explorer we have puts the Explorer ahead, per month.

Something doesn't add up there. Liability insurance should be more expensive for a larger vehicle, because they do more damage in an accident.
Where the heck did you hear that?
 

MikeMike

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Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
The funny thing about this is that people will go buy Civics and Focuses and then end up spending more on insurance, so it's pretty much a wash anyways. The difference (gas + insurance) between the MINI we had and Explorer we have puts the Explorer ahead, per month.

Something doesn't add up there. Liability insurance should be more expensive for a larger vehicle, because they do more damage in an accident.
Where the heck did you hear that?

its one of the MANY factors that influence insurance costs.
 

Pocatello

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: Pocatello
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
53% increase because sales were in the dumps the entire rest of the year. They were down almost 20% November YTD from 2004. A 53% increase puts it at just about 10,000 unites for the month, making the difference between 2004 and 2005 at almost 22,000 Tahoes.


And gas price is spiking up already, I would think it would hit over $3/gal this summer again. But then, if you're buying a $30K-40K SUV, you can afford the gas.

The funny thing about this is that people will go buy Civics and Focuses and then end up spending more on insurance, so it's pretty much a wash anyways. The difference (gas + insurance) between the MINI we had and Explorer we have puts the Explorer ahead, per month.


But if you're looking foward to buy a new car, and you have a choice between cars that get 30MPG vs SUVs that get 15-20MPG, gas price is certainly a factor. It would be silly to trade in a perfectly good SUV, which you already has paid for, for a fuel miser. Unless you're an environmentalist, you have a new monthly payment with your new Civic.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
The funny thing about this is that people will go buy Civics and Focuses and then end up spending more on insurance, so it's pretty much a wash anyways. The difference (gas + insurance) between the MINI we had and Explorer we have puts the Explorer ahead, per month.

Something doesn't add up there. Liability insurance should be more expensive for a larger vehicle, because they do more damage in an accident.
Where the heck did you hear that?

I don't recall, but I believe it was a reputable source... and it's logical, isn't it?

Of course, as MIKEMIKE pointed out, there are a lot of other factors that affect the price of insurance.
 

Muadib

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Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
The funny thing about this is that people will go buy Civics and Focuses and then end up spending more on insurance, so it's pretty much a wash anyways. The difference (gas + insurance) between the MINI we had and Explorer we have puts the Explorer ahead, per month.

Something doesn't add up there. Liability insurance should be more expensive for a larger vehicle, because they do more damage in an accident.
Where the heck did you hear that?

its one of the MANY factors that influence insurance costs.
I live in the state with the highest insurance rates in the country. It's not like that here.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
The funny thing about this is that people will go buy Civics and Focuses and then end up spending more on insurance, so it's pretty much a wash anyways. The difference (gas + insurance) between the MINI we had and Explorer we have puts the Explorer ahead, per month.

Something doesn't add up there. Liability insurance should be more expensive for a larger vehicle, because they do more damage in an accident.
Where the heck did you hear that?

its one of the MANY factors that influence insurance costs.
I live in the state with the highest insurance rates in the country. It's not like that here.

So do I. ;) But I've never insured an SUV.