new system going to be build

[lookouthere]

Pentium 4 2.8Ghz
Asus P4P800-E Deluxe
OCZ Dual Channel Gold PC-4000 512Mb
NEC ND-2500A DVD burner
Western Digital 160Gb SATA x2

I will use the old GF2 as my graphic, so does the DVD rom

I wil heavily overclock this system so i need opinion on this
thnks

 

[lookouthere]

need help plz.....

 

[SickBeast]

Oh wow here we go again...the eternal flame wars.

You need to tell us what you're doing with the computer. If you will be gaming more than you will be encoding video, then an Athlon XP/64 system would be the better choice. I would build this:

-ABIT NF7-S
-AMD ATHLON XP MOBILE 2500+
-1GB PC3200 RAM
-160GB HD
-ENERMAX 350w PSU
_________________________________
TOTAL should be under $500 hopefully
(try building the P4 for that - you can't)

But, most of you folks come on here to confirm a system, and since what I propose is radically different, I'm 99% certain you will reject it and I just wasted my time.

 

[lookouthere]

for workstation.....no gaming
runs SAS and other statitical applications
decoding and encoding

 

[SickBeast]

For stats AMD would probably be faster. Intel would be faster for encoding/decoding.

If it were my money I would buy what I reccomended; the AMD Athlon XP rigs are impossible to beat when value is a serious concern. You menionned overclocking, and the Mobile XP's hit the equlivalent of a 3700+ rating quite easily in general.

 

[lookouthere]

is it really that faster?....
or should i buy 2.4Cghz for the same price but overclock better
which?!?!?!.......
I thought Athlon XP isn't all that good

 

[SickBeast]

Athlon XP is by far the best value for a new computer. To say "it's not all that good" is not doing it justice.

That said, the P4 will be faster in most situations by up to 20%. The Athlon will cost 50% less though.

Don't the 2.4C and 2.8C cost nearly the same? I think I would go with the 2.8.

 

[lookouthere]

thx for the advice.....
maybe i will go for Athlon XP

 

[lookouthere]

i was thinking using the LGA775 processor and Abit AS8
it might have better overclockability than the i915....
i just want to know if there is anyone using this mb or review on it

 

[mechBgon]

Originally posted by: lookouthere
for workstation.....no gaming
runs SAS and other statitical applications
decoding and encoding

You're going to heavily overclock a workstation? Dude, that shortens your coffee breaks!




I could overclock my work systems, but I never have. It's taboo to OC a work rig, in my mind. But to each his own...

 

[Zebo]

I may go Pentium for your purposes and I favor AMD. don't understand buying that overrated/overpriced ASUS board though. Abit's are built better with japanese capacitors and mosfets and are less money. ASUS is king of hype (like intel) so they can charge a premium for thier products.

Abit IS7 $90
P4C retail boxed 2.8- $180
Adata PC4000-$200

Total $470

Set Bus to 230 1:1 and smile. = P4 3.2Ghz

Alternativly, best price/performance and indisernable performance.

A-XP Mobile 2600 $100
Abit NF7-S $82
Adata PC3200 $180
Spreeze HSF $10

Total $372

Set multi to 12 bus to 200 = 2400Mhz or true 3200+ pentium rating.

Take a look at this review where both systems above are compared and decide based on your uses and applications:

http://techreport.com/reviews/2004q1/athlonxp-m-2500/index.x?pg=1

 

[lookouthere]

doesn't LGA775 w/o the i915 overclock better?

 

[Zebo]

There's only two chipsets you should concern yourself with 865PE (IS7) or 875 (IC7) for overclocking.

 

[Illissius]

Zebo: Dunno what happened to the Adatas, yesterday their price was up $40, now today newegg's search only returns results for 256MB sticks. They do have Kingmax TSOP PC-4000 512MB for $101, though, which should be a suitable replacement.

 

[Zebo]

Whoa your right see OP you wait you miss out. Yes the kingmax hardcore would be better if newegg carried the TinyBGA outfitted version though. Still an excellent value.

 

[lookouthere]

is the TinyBGA better than the regular ram?
is the celeron d in LGA775?

 

[nick1985]

have you considered an athlon 64?

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: mechBgon

Originally posted by: lookouthere
for workstation.....no gaming
runs SAS and other statitical applications
decoding and encoding

You're going to heavily overclock a workstation? Dude, that shortens your coffee breaks!




I could overclock my work systems, but I never have. It's taboo to OC a work rig, in my mind. But to each his own...

I overclock all my systems, including the one I use at work to do AutoCAD. I tested for stability very thoroughly and it hasn't crashed once on me yet. It allows me to do things MUCH faster; there are certain tasks in CAD that are very CPU-intensive, such as using a very complex hatch pattern. At 2100mhz, the CPU does it in a second or two, while at 1400mhz it takes 10 seconds or so. And that's a task that I do over and over and over again so it's a real timesaver.

You do have a point though, work is pretty mission-critical so you want 100% stability. If you're careful and you know what you're doing I would say you should be fine though. You just need to be aware of what your hardware is really capable of I guess. Push your luck and you get burned.

 

[lookouthere]

Originally posted by: nick1985
have you considered an athlon 64?

yea, in fact, i was thinking Mobile Athlon64 35W 2700+
i don't know if this is any good or not

 

[lookouthere]

does anyone know how those mobile a64 overclock?