New Sweet - looking PocketPC from Toshiba

HansXP

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Who exactly is going to buy this over, say, a 200 MHz MIPS based PPC or a 206 MHz StrongARM based PPC?
 

Oyeve

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Its a MIPS processor. Should be just fine. And NFS4, what the hell are you doing promoting a NON ipaq product? :)
 

NFS4

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<< Its a MIPS processor. Should be just fine. And NFS4, what the hell are you doing promoting a NON ipaq product? :) >>


You should have seen me raving about the new 200MHz Casio model yesterday until I found out today that it is a BRICK.

I like the design of this PocketPC, and hope that it will have a 200MHz MIPS processor. It would mean instant death if it doesn't. But I can't tell if it has an integrated CF slot or not...
 

HansXP

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Oyeve

Yes, it's a MIPS processor at 129 MHz. That is SLOW compared to modern offerings, which is why I'm asking who TF is going to buy this.
 

NFS4

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<< Oyeve

Yes, it's a MIPS processor at 129 MHz. That is SLOW compared to modern offerings, which is why I'm asking who TF is going to buy this.
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Well, people still buy the 131MHz Jornada 525/545/548 series. I guess there's still a market for slow a$$ PocketPC's.
 

HansXP

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Yeah, the reason they buy those is because they are solid, well-built, reliable workhorses. They overlook the slow processor and passive-matrix screen because of those features. However, I don't think the Toshiba is going to have any special features that would make people overlook the lack of processor speed.
 

arod

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Its got a very good looking screen, wish I hadnt bought that casio e125 now
 

christoph83

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Well with a slower processor should hopefully mean a lower price. IPaq is a little to steep for me right now.
 

HansXP

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I doubt it will lower the price that much. The screen and other components are probably more expensive than the processor.
 

BD2003

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If it comes with a flip lid and a 16-bit active matrix screen, and a CF slot, I'm buying it. That thing looks tiny. Its about time. I wouldnt complain about a faster processor, but if it keeps the price down, I'm all for it. If toshibas notebooks are any indication of their PDAs, its going to rock.

I might just put off buying that damn USB-serial convertor for my jornada.
 

BD2003

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And BTW, its not exactly a MIPS processor. Read the article, its an in house Toshiba Processor, along with 1, maybe 2 coprocessors. Maybe the coprocessor offloads graphics duties from the CPU, which could make it the fastest PPC. MIPS doesnt make a 129mhz processor.

&quot;Firstly, the MPU (Main Processor Unit) that will be used in the Toshiba PPC is likely to be the TMPR3922CU, developed specifically for Windows CE devices by Toshiba itself. It's a MIPS-based 32-bit CPU, capable of processor speeds of up to 129 MHz. Secondly, the companion chip for the TMPR3922CU is the TC6358TB, which is capable of controlling a TFT display, PCMCIA and Smart Media as well as USB and other Input/Output functions.&quot;


 

joohang

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Hopefully the software will be compatible.

Is it true that different PocketPC CPUs are not compatible with some software?
 

BD2003

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Yes, very true. And thats what I have a feeling the MIPS-based is referring to, that it'll work with MIPS programs, as AMD is x86 based. Now is not the time to add another processor family into the mix.
 

HansXP

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Yes, all MIPS processors work with programs made for MIPS. What I don't understand is why anyone wants MIPS anymore - StrongARM is much more advanced, and has a lot of potential (they're working on 1 GHz models)
 

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Actually, 129mhz may be quite deceiving. There is a lot of variety in MIPS-type processors. The Intermec 6651 (also know as the Sharp Telios 7000) uses a Toshiba 129Mhz MIPS processor, but because of its large and fast caches (I think), it actually out-benchmarks the iPaq's 206mhz processor. So, I'd wait until we get better details on the CPU and some benchmarks before ballyhooing it.
 

BD2003

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If thats the truth, then I want one, because it seems to be using that exact same processor.
 

NFS4

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<< If thats the truth, then I want one, because it seems to be using that exact same processor. >>


Yeah, but it may not be using that chip at all...the writer is just make an educated guess at what processor it has. But I still think that it makes no sense to release such a low-clocked PocketPC device right now.


<< The Intermec 6651 (also know as the Sharp Telios 7000) uses a Toshiba 129Mhz MIPS processor, but because of its large and fast caches (I think), it actually out-benchmarks the iPaq's 206mhz processor. >>


I'd like to see that ;) I'd also like to see it overclock to 236MHz like my iPAQ with simple software:p


<< Yes, all MIPS processors work with programs made for MIPS. What I don't understand is why anyone wants MIPS anymore - StrongARM is much more advanced, and has a lot of potential (they're working on 1 GHz models) >>


X-Scale is what's going to 1GHz. It is rumored that Compaq is readying a 400MHz X-Scale iPAQ for summer.
 

NFS4

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<< Well I drool at the thought of voice-activated PocketPC. :) >>


You can already do it ;) When I first got my iPAQ, I installed a program that let me look up my contacts by just saying their name.

i.e., I would just say &quot;George Hill&quot;, and it would bring up my dad's contact info.