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BigLance

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Pentium III 866 / 133 FSB 3 yrs warranty
Intel D815 Socket 370 Motherboard w/ Intel 10/100 Pro LAN
256MB Corsair PC133 SDRAM
IBM 75GXP 7200rpm 45GB Hard Drive
AOpem HQ08 Full Tower Blue Colored 300w Case
Socket 370 Heatsink/ Fan (Intel Retail)

All for $775 shipped 2nd day air (that is so I will get it this week because monday is holiday...)

Tell me what you think, please be quick if I need to change something.. cause my mouse is hovering over the button, hehe 🙂
 
Oh sorry, here is the rest of my system that I already have:

ATI Radeon 64 DDR VIVO
SB Live! X-Gamer
3Com 56k v.90 PCI
NetGear 10 mb/s Phoneline Card
Hitachi 5x DVD
Panasonic 8x4x32x
Western Digital 30GB UDMA/66 (backup drive now 🙂 )
External ZIP100
Viewsonic G790 19"
etc. etc. etc. (scanner,printer,altec's)
 
Why not KT133A? You can get 128MB of Kingmax PC150 for just $68, how does that sound compare to Corsair?
 
You may have a point but...

I'm not interested in OCing so does the PC150 really help ?
I like Intel chipsets, that KT is VIA.. wait a sec, is that Athlon chipset... Intel here.. sorry 😀
 
yup, KT133 is for t-birds and durons, a little mix up here.

But nice Lance, i like your choice of cases 🙂
 
Tell me, what are you afraid of?

PC150 can run 133MHz 2-2-2, even if you're not overclocking, isnt it better to save some money?
 
Yes, but a Thunderbird and a P3 running at stock configs the P3 is faster in most benchmarks... Im not overclocking...
Besides that Corsair is cheaper, not saying it is better but It was cheaper...

Thanks for the opinions everyone !
 
Oh yea, I am going for stability and reliability.. that is why I chose Intel and Intel Mobo and not to overclock...
 
<<Yes, but a Thunderbird and a P3 running at stock configs the P3 is faster in most benchmarks... Im not overclocking...>>

Lets see, that is wrong to begin with, P3 is faster than Tbird only in Quake3 if comparing clock for clock. Second, Tbirds are cheaper and you'll be able to afford a CPU with higher clock speed.

How much is Corsair? Is it 133MHz CAS2?
 
Yea, to remind you that, the only system, regardless of Intel or AMD, to finish the Anandtech lab stability test without a single crash was an AMD system based on a MicroStar motherboard.
 
Well thats nice that the AMD finished the lab test, however, in real world experiances (of mine) I have found Intel machines to be a little more reliable than AMD- own AMD now BTW...

Also, check this out: http://www1.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1203&amp;p=9 and http://www1.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1203&amp;p=10 and http://www1.anandtech.com/showdoc.h...w1.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1203&amp;p=12 Well that is a lot of benchmarks showing the P3 faster...

You can see that the P3's are faster (for most stuff, stuff I do anyway !)... Now your right about AMD's being cheaper/ so you get more bang for your buck.. But that is the price you pay if you go with a Genuine Intel Processor 😀
 
LOL, read those links you posted, they're from a year ago, and they're comparing P3s to classic Athlons, not Thunderbirds. Lets get it straight, the Tbirds are just as fast or faster.
 
I wouldn't necessarily say that Intel is more reliable than AMD processor-wise. However, I will say that Intel chipsets are better than Via without a doubt. Via makes some great products (of which I currently own one: msi pro2a), but there are little compatibility and quality issues that pop up every so often and I won't deny it. However, AMD chipsets have come a LONG way in a short period of time, and are now almost up to par with Intel. It's getting to be more a matter of opinion than fact, and there are pros and cons on both sides of the field.

Get the computer you want with the chipset you're looking for that fits what you're going to be doing. The system you explained looks like a nice one (I actually almost got the P3 800@100mhz fsb myself), and the best of luck with it 🙂
 


<< But that is the price you pay if you go with a Genuine Intel Processor >>



Ahh... Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt Marketing have done their job well.

Sig Heil Intel.
 
Please keep in mind this is coming from someone that has built four computer systems and ALL of which were amd based systems. LXi you need to come off of your AMD soap box.

Biglance, nice system. The only thing to watch out for is one of my friends has a system built on the intel 815 chipset mobo and it does not have an AGP slot so he is stuck upgrading from an integrated video card to a pci based one, which I do not think the ATI radeon is. But since I have no experience with intel mobo I am not sure this is even a concern you need to address, but I thought I would mention it.

Lastly, think broadband.

Good luck with your new system,

Glp1
 


<< Ahh... Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt Marketing have done their job well.

Sig Heil Intel.
>>



LOL, yep. The great mythos of Intel's huge stability lead. I guess everyone conceniently forgets i820 and the 1.13 ghz recalls quite easily.

I really think you need to consider an AMD/VIA solution more carefully instead of just dismissing it. The first computer I built myself from scratch was the one in my signature. I had no major problems whatsoever, just the usual quirks and tweaking to get everything to be happy with eachother. Installing latest drivers, flashing to latest BIOS. My only extra step over an intel motherboard was installing the VIA 4-1 drivers.

Did you know retail 1ghz Tbirds are under $200 now? More bang for your buck for sure.
 
Why should I come off? A forum is for people to express their opinions, and to be totally honest I dont think an Intel system is the best for him.
 
No, you don't think intel is best. If Biglance has his heart set on an Intel system then that is what he should buy. Because in the long run if he doesn't he may never be truly happy with it. You did not merely express you opinion you tried to ram it down his throat. There is a big difference between the two. That is why I said you should come off of your soap box.

Glp1
 
I would be doing him a disservice if I dont try to tell him that he should consider AMD flatform. Whether somebody is happy with something or not is not based on whether he or she has his or her heart set on that thing, you have to look at performance, price, and reliability. AMD excels in all those areas, easily matching Intel offerings with less price. I have all the reasons in the world to make AMD a presence in his consideration. Im not trying to force anything, all I want to do is clear up the smoke, show him the facts, and help him make a better decision.
 
but glp1del, it's obvious that BigLance isn't well informed about the processors. he doesn't know the facts, he thinks the p3 is faster than the tbird clock for clock when that in fact isn't true. LXi is just telling him the real deal 😛
 
My point is this and then I am off to bed. Many time on this board people get stuck in these kinds of arguments that this is better than that, but in truth either product is more than sufficient to do the job adequently. I just think you were a little to forceful in you objection to his building an intel based system. I am glad you are part of these boards because you do voice your opinion and make contributions here, but just remember not everyone thinks the same way you do and more importantly people need to do what will make them happy. Be it buy a certain cpu or mobo or video card or monitor brand or half dozen other things. That is the point I am trying to make.

Glp1
 
Hey, for all I care you guys can stick an AMD Athlon Classic or Thunderbird Chip (doesn't matter to me) straight up your ass ! 😀 😀

Well, like glp1del was saying, I want an Intel system, I don't care if I pay more for the CPU. And Whisper, thank your for backing me on the Intel platform stability. I totally agree w/ you that its not the processors, but instead the Chipsets, I have an AMD now with a VIA KX133 chipset... Im going to Intel for a reason !!!

Oh and yo2tup- just shut up. We already know AMD's are Fast ! But that is not the point behind my purchase !

For those of you who have helped/ commented thank you, yea LXi, I guess that even includes you 😀
 
All I can say is, you're not well informed about the performance and stability of the AMD CPUs, and I feel that I havent done a good enough job to inform you about it. Im sorry for you paying more for less.
 
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