New study shows that showering causes brain damage.

[DannyBoy]

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A new analysis based on animal studies suggests that showering in manganese-contaminated water for a decade or more could have permanent effects on the nervous system. The damage may occur even at levels of manganese considered safe by the Environmental Protection Agency, according to researchers from Wake Forest University School of Medicine.

"If our results are confirmed, they could have profound implications for the nation and the world," said John Spangler, M.D., an associate professor of family medicine. "Nearly 9 million people in the United States are exposed to manganese levels that our study shows may cause toxic effects."

The study is the first to show the potential for permanent brain damage from breathing vaporized manganese during a shower. It was conducted by reviewing the medical literature and calculating, based on animal studies, the amount of manganese people would absorb by showering 10 minutes a day.

Because manganese is monitored in public water supplies, high levels of this naturally occurring metal are especially found in wells and private water supplies.

Spangler and Robert Elsner, Ph.D., published their findings in the current issue of Medical Hypotheses, a forum for ideas in medicine and related biomedical sciences.

The journal publishes "interesting and important theoretical papers that foster the diversity and debate upon which the scientific process thrives."

Everyone is exposed to small levels of manganese, which is found in food and many types of rocks and enters the air, soil and water. But, at higher levels, manganese is toxic to the central nervous system and can cause learning and coordination disabilities, behavioral changes and a condition that is similar to Parkinson's disease.

Children, pregnant women, the elderly, and patients with liver disease are at highest risk from manganese toxicity. Some of these groups have developed manganese poisoning even at fairly low doses in their water supplies, Spangler said.

The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has set 0.5 milligrams/liter as the upper limit of manganese advisable in water supplies. The limit, however, is based on odor and taste of the water. The potential risk of manganese accumulating in the brain through showering has not been considered by the EPA in setting this limit. In their analysis, Spangler and Elsner found that concentrations well below 0.5 milligrams might lead to brain injury.

"Inhaling manganese, rather than eating or drinking it, is far more efficient at delivering manganese to the brain," said Spangler. "The nerve cells involved in smell are a direct pathway for toxins to enter the brain. Once inside these small nerves, manganese can travel throughout the brain."

Elsner and Spangler extrapolated data from rodents to estimate human exposure to manganese during showering. They found that after 10 years of showering in manganese contaminated water, children would be exposed to doses of manganese three times higher than doses that resulted in manganese deposits in the brains of rats. Adults would be exposed to doses 50 percent higher than the rodents.

The researchers said that while limitations to their calculations do exist, regulatory agencies have not considered this potential pathway when setting drinking water standards.

"Studies should be carried out among populations that have experienced high levels of manganese in their water supplies over long periods of time," Spangler said. "Regulatory agencies may one day need to rethink existing drinking water standards for manganese."

The addition of manganese to gasoline as an anti-knock agent may also be a threat, the researchers said.

"The manganese, as it settles from car exhaust onto streets and highways, may enter the water supply, increasing manganese levels in the water we drink and bathe in," said Spangler.

What next?

First you ban marking schools homework with red pens because it's 'angry' and 'stressful', now this?

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

at least we don't eat "spotted dick"

 

[DannyBoy]

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
at least we don't eat "spotted dick"

Better than eating the sh*t that goes into McDonalds.

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

Originally posted by: DannyBoy

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
at least we don't eat "spotted dick"

Better than eating the sh*t that goes into McDonalds.

ground up spotted dick?

 

[KLin]

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[imported_mitch2891]

This is f**king brilliant, people need to stop being so bloody worried and just live and have fun, think I will go get pissed smoke a 20 pack and then just to be a daredevil ... take a shower

 

[RedRooster]

Seems to me oral hygiene has baffled the Brits for centuries anyways. "Brushing is the #1 cause of STDs."
It just takes us a little longer to find this stuff out.

 

[DannyBoy]

Originally posted by: KLin
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Troll?

Erm..?

Would you care to take a step away from the computer, position your arm accordingly and slap yourself round the face?

Thanks.

 

[DannyBoy]

Originally posted by: RedRooster
Seems to me oral hygiene has baffled the Brits for centuries anyways. "Brushing is the #1 cause of STDs."
It just takes us a little longer to find this stuff out.

You see the funny thing about that is if you'd actually been to England you'd know that stereotype wasn't true.

As for the stereotype regarding your country being dumb, well what can I say, showering is dangerous now?

 

[imported_Lucifer]

Looks like I am going back to Poland!!

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: DannyBoy
What next?

First you ban marking schools homework with red pens because it's 'angry' and 'stressful', now this?

Did you miss the "in manganese-contaminated water" part? That's the whole point, Dan.

The thing about red pens is just fvcking stupid, but this actually has some scientific foundation.

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: DannyBoy
What next?

First you ban marking schools homework with red pens because it's 'angry' and 'stressful', now this?

Did you miss the "in manganese-contaminated water" part? That's the whole point, Dan.

The thing about red pens is just fvcking stupid, but this actually has some scientific foundation.

:thumbsup:

 

[Rapidskies]

What's wrong with our country? We can comprehend a frickin article. Did you read the word MANGANESE in the article at all or just gloss over it? The research did not say take a shower it means if you have well water you might want to have it tested. And btw aren't you that guy who wears his collar all stuck up like its 1985 I think you might want to check it for manganese.

 

[thehstrybean]

Brits, Brits, Brits...we save your butts (over & over), and look at what we get...*sigh*

 

[loup garou]

What a moronic thread.

 

[Looney]

I would take this with a grain of salt... first, just because the media reports it, doesn't mean it's true. Most media personnels are educated in the arts and not a scientific background, so they're not very good at picking out the valid studies out of all the quackeries that are out there. Second, this seems like a pretty obscure journal, at least i've never heard of it (but then again, that means little). Third, if it was based on the scientific method, then hopefully the results can be reproduced by others.

 

[Mrvile]

Ugh...my head...I need a shower

 

[iwearnosox]

So this basically confirms that all French people got their brain damage some other way?

 

[PHiuR]

DannyBoy - 0
Rest of ATOT - 100

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: DannyBoy

Originally posted by: RedRooster
Seems to me oral hygiene has baffled the Brits for centuries anyways. "Brushing is the #1 cause of STDs."
It just takes us a little longer to find this stuff out.

You see the funny thing about that is if you'd actually been to England you'd know that stereotype wasn't true.

As for the stereotype regarding your country being dumb, well what can I say, showering is dangerous now?

Well... then how did the stereotype come to be about the english and their fugly teeth ?

 

[thehstrybean]

Originally posted by: iwearnosox
So this basically confirms that all French people got their brain damage some other way?

Throwin the arms up...I heard it causes nerve strain in the brain...

 

[Wallydraigle]

Can we get some kind of Mexican joke in here? Somehow?

 

[sash1]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: DannyBoy
What next?

First you ban marking schools homework with red pens because it's 'angry' and 'stressful', now this?

Did you miss the "in manganese-contaminated water" part? That's the whole point, Dan.

The thing about red pens is just fvcking stupid, but this actually has some scientific foundation.

qft. Nik wins

 

[OutHouse]

what a stupid study. it proves nothing.

 

[HermDogg]

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: DannyBoy

Originally posted by: RedRooster
Seems to me oral hygiene has baffled the Brits for centuries anyways. "Brushing is the #1 cause of STDs."
It just takes us a little longer to find this stuff out.

You see the funny thing about that is if you'd actually been to England you'd know that stereotype wasn't true.

As for the stereotype regarding your country being dumb, well what can I say, showering is dangerous now?

Well... then how did the stereotype come to be about the english and their fugly teeth ?

Pics?

And no, I'm not asking for pics, 'cuz I know you bastards can pull out some REAL nasty ones.