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New spy shots of new C6 corvette! + Video
- Thread starter Cfour
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Looks too much like the Caddy IMO 🙁
So you hate $50,000 Z06's that absoultely dominate cars that are priced much more than they are? I loved a quote from last month's car and driver that I read. They were doing comparisons of modded Integras, S2000s, Civics, etc. They said something like "The cheapest car in the bunch was about $80,000.. yet noe of them came close to beating the $50,000 Z06 around the track by any less than a second."
Scootin159
Diamond Member
Isn't the new caddy built on the same platform? Wouldn't be surprised if that's the case. Anyways I do agree with you, and personally don't like it. Oh well, I'm sure they'll sell like crazy and everyone will love them.
The C5 is a beautiful car IMHO, although a bit too big with a kinda "disappointing" interior.
Scootin159
Diamond Member
umm... I'm pretty sure a Mini Cooper S would DESTROY a z06 on an autocross course (especially a tight one). At the racetrack I imagine a $30k Lotus Elise would give it a good run for it's money. It may do pretty well at the dragstrip though.
Scootin159
Diamond Member
Ever try fitting a Z06 through an autocross course? That's a mighty big car to try and turn in such a small area. Remember Horsepower means little in such a venue (well it does play a factor, but not as much as handling). In most cases upgrading the brakes will improve your times more than upgrading horsepower. Sure the Z06 probably has 2x (or close to it) of a CooperS, but if I remember right the Mini has like the highest slolom speed ever. I know the Z06 can get pretty good grip, but that's more a matter of it's huge tires than good handling. Not to put the Z06 down...it's really a pretty nice car, but it's not the be-all-end-all at the track. I'd be willing to bet even a measley Miata could hang pretty well with a Z06 in a tight autox course.
Scootin159
Diamond Member
SCCA Results:
Look at course #1:
Best Z06 time: 59.149 Z06 Link
Best Miata time: 52.484 Miata Link
Looks like the Miata came out pretty well on top there
Magazines pull off anywehre from .98 - 1.00 Gs off of a Z06.
Mni Cooper S pulls .87 Gs on the skidpad.
Not even mentioning the fact that the Z06 will sickly outrun a Cooper, it handles better than it, too. I can't believe you guys are even entertaining the thought of a Z06 vs. a Cooper or even a Miata. How sad...
Mni Cooper S pulls .87 Gs on the skidpad.
Not even mentioning the fact that the Z06 will sickly outrun a Cooper, it handles better than it, too. I can't believe you guys are even entertaining the thought of a Z06 vs. a Cooper or even a Miata. How sad...
Scootin159
Diamond Member
Skidpad isn't everything. That just shows the ultimate grip of a car, or moreso the tires.
The Z06 has more power, can't really argue that. Looks great IMHO (on the outside at least), but it's still not going to destroy everything out there under $50k.
Not only do those links not specify if those cars are modified or not, you were comparing a stock miata and cooper to a z06. Not once did you metion modifications.
edit: Since they are different classes.. how do we even know if they were run on the same track setup? Or if the weather was same (they may have ran on different days). The top of the page says Sept. 9-12.. that is reason enough to think that they were ran on different days.
Scootin159
Diamond Member
That's stock class. They're pretty strict there. Sometimes (not always) even changing the air filter will get ya bumped up.
Lateral grip is one thing, but it isn't the sole determiner of whether a car handles better than another. The Z06 may have a tremendous lateral grip advantage over the CooperS or the Miata and whatnot, but, the reason the Miata pulled a better time in the SCCA autocross is, I'm betting, due to its lighter weight. The lighter a car, the faster it can enter corners.
Now, on a roadcourse with some decent straights, the raw power of the Z06 would show itself againt the Miata or the CooperS.
Scootin159
Diamond Member
I agree. It would be interesting to see what would happen if you were to put a z06 motor into a miata. Probably doesn't fit (although possible, I know an LT1 will fit in the engine bay of my 4cylinder car), but shouldn't add more than a couple hundred pounds at most (which could be easily tuned out in the suspension). Wish they made cars like that 🙂.
Scootin159
Diamond Member
Anyways, this thread is about the C6, not the Z06....
Any idea as to it's performance yet? Probably very similar to the Caddy as it's from the same platform. Any idea on engine specs? Weight?
Any idea as to it's performance yet? Probably very similar to the Caddy as it's from the same platform. Any idea on engine specs? Weight?
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