New Sopho's Antirootkit App found Two Insects!

[SilthDraeth]

What I don't get, is you seem paranoid about having a clean system, and you are running Norton, instead of Kaspersky.

But thanks for mentioning the sophos rootkit scanner.

 

[Tsavo]

What I don't get, is you seem paranoid about having a clean system, and you are running Norton, instead of Kaspersky.

But thanks for mentioning the sophos rootkit scanner.

There's nothing wrong with Norton.

 

[PliotronX]

There's nothing wrong with Norton.

It misses all kinds of crap Malwarebytes has to clean up. I am not surprised anymore when I work on systems with Norton or McRapee installed and find them infested.

 

[Virgorising]

It misses all kinds of crap Malwarebytes has to clean up. I am not surprised anymore when I work on systems with Norton or McRapee installed and find them infested.

Interesting. Also, in no way speaks my subjective experience. Do u mean Norton IS 2014? Cause that is what I run, and I configure it carefully. I can not speak for other Norton apps. but in independent reviews, its detection rate is among the top three.

And, I own paid for MBAM, no longer run it in real time, but run it every other day, and so far, it has picked up nothing since I set up this system. NOR, does my free Superantispy! Tho I keep that current (manually) and run that every day.

 

[Virgorising]

There's nothing wrong with Norton.

U bet. I tried the Russian app on my backup drive in my now backup desktop....and went right back to Symantec.

Perhaps you are referring to back in the day Norton.

And remember, every new build is different from all that went before in almost every app. And you gotta test each one thoroughly.

 

[DigDog]

http://www.gmer.net/

 

[Virgorising]

http://www.gmer.net/

Wow. That looks intense! I am getting it immeidately.

Thank U!:thumbsup:

 

[DigDog]

be careful; differently than most "looks like its doing stuff, but its really just a marketing BS", gmer CAN damage your PC.
gmer doesn't take BS from rootkits. consequently, the power that you are given can cause you to erase legitimate, low level microsoft services.
just be careful, ok?

 

[John Connor]

I could never figure out if GMER was showing bad stuff or not so I never bothered with it. It's been out for a very long time.

 

[PliotronX]

Interesting. Also, in no way speaks my subjective experience. Do u mean Norton IS 2014? Cause that is what I run, and I configure it carefully. I can not speak for other Norton apps. but in independent reviews, its detection rate is among the top three.

And, I own paid for MBAM, no longer run it in real time, but run it every other day, and so far, it has picked up nothing since I set up this system. NOR, does my free Superantispy! Tho I keep that current (manually) and run that every day.

Sorry I don't keep track of the versions, I just hit the uninstall button when I discover the system is compromised with Norton installed. I should be keeping statistics as I've had my hands on many systems in the wild in the real-world. Among those that seem to be ineffective with Malware are McRapee, AVG, and Avast. I don't know how many of our clients run anything else but I have never worked on a system with Eset, Kaspersky, or BitDefender that were compromised.

 

[Virgorising]

Sorry I don't keep track of the versions, I just hit the uninstall button when I discover the system is compromised with Norton installed. I should be keeping statistics as I've had my hands on many systems in the wild in the real-world. Among those that seem to be ineffective with Malware are McRapee, AVG, and Avast. I don't know how many of our clients run anything else but I have never worked on a system with Eset, Kaspersky, or BitDefender that were compromised.

Again, I absolutely believe your account, but it neither speaks my personal experience, nor reflects independent studies re comparative detection rates among competing apps.

Again, Norton, in the last, say, 3 years, has ended up in the top three.

Remember, correlation, esp within a limited sampling....never implies causation.

But, again, I always got, AV, and even suites, should be used in concert with good antimalware apps.

But this is interesting subject for sure!

 

[Virgorising]

be careful; differently than most "looks like its doing stuff, but its really just a marketing BS", gmer CAN damage your PC.
gmer doesn't take BS from rootkits. consequently, the power that you are given can cause you to erase legitimate, low level microsoft services.
just be careful, ok?

Yes!!! I got it, ran it, immediately became suspicious of it.... did a little search on it.....and I already got rid of it. But this is part of the journey and all of life! Trying, observing, making differential judgements...like that!!!

I got a couple more.....I felt, better ones, ran them along with those I already had, everything comes up clean.

 

[Virgorising]

I could never figure out if GMER was showing bad stuff or not so I never bothered with it. It's been out for a very long time.

Very sharp post, John....also speaks the result of my single experience with it....pls see below!!!!

See how smart everyone here is? ()

 

[PliotronX]

Again, I absolutely believe your account, but it neither speaks my personal experience, nor reflects independent studies re comparative detection rates among competing apps.

Again, Norton, in the last, say, 3 years, has ended up in the top three.

Remember, correlation, esp within a limited sampling....never implies causation.

But, again, I always got, AV, and even suites, should be used in concert with good antimalware apps.

But this is interesting subject for sure!

True, but then you're probably not an idiot. AV cannot protect idiots from themselves :awe: If anything AV's instill a false sense of security in most people so they go on doing stupid sh**.

 

[Virgorising]

True, but then you're probably not an idiot. AV cannot protect idiots from themselves :awe: If anything AV's instill a false sense of security in most people so they go on doing stupid sh**.

Well, in my unplanned experience in ending up the go to person to fix everyone's systems....and I am talking about otherwise smart humans, many highly educated professionals.... I can't use the word idiot. Forget I never do to begin with.

Is it is true, MY default mode is to ignite and happily share so that all others can have the unique joy of learning, being empowered and free of dependence. I get a lot of it from my mom.

But I finally, with pain, gave up on doing that re being the informal troubleshooter and fixer of the puters of friends and colleagues. My feeling now is, either some people do not wanna learn---are actually not turned on by that (tho hard for me to understand)...or, I think more often, held hostage by the fear they can't learn!! So, in this, and too many other things, they settle for being in the backseat of their "vehicle."

I am the same in all arenas....fire up, focus,start, learn, figure it out, find new solutions, do it myself and then ignite others and pass it along. I think it's a great, heady, thrilling adventure.

But clearly, not everyone does. And all those who don't.....are not necessarily idiots.

Finally, forgive me, but the contempt and disdain you seem to manifest by default, and it feels broad and a bit obliterating ...can never help anyone in fear of learning to get beyond that.

Does it hurt to come upon anyone stuck in this way? It does. But that never means you should defend against that with anger and contempt. Cause that can grow nothing healthy or productive for anyone involved.

 

[John Connor]

Amongst my security is a front door installed into Pale Moon and Firefox called NoScript. Install that and crap won't even touch the anti-virus.

 

[Virgorising]

Amongst my security is a front door installed into Pale Moon and Firefox called NoScript. Install that and crap won't even touch the anti-virus.

Indeed. :thumbsup: Got it immediately long ago when I was running FX.....same deal when I switched to Pale Moon and got rid of FX. It makes a huge difference.

 

[PliotronX]

Well, in my unplanned experience in ending up the go to person to fix everyone's systems....and I am talking about otherwise smart humans, many highly educated professionals.... I can't use the word idiot. Forget I never do to begin with.

Is it is true, MY default mode is to ignite and happily share so that all others can have the unique joy of learning, being empowered and free of dependence. I get a lot of it from my mom.

But I finally, with pain, gave up on doing that re being the informal troubleshooter and fixer of the puters of friends and colleagues. My feeling now is, either some people do not wanna learn---are actually not turned on by that (tho hard for me to understand)...or, I think more often, held hostage by the fear they can't learn!! So, in this, and too many other things, they settle for being in the backseat of their "vehicle."

I am the same in all arenas....fire up, focus,start, learn, figure it out, find new solutions, do it myself and then ignite others and pass it along. I think it's a great, heady, thrilling adventure.

But clearly, not everyone does. And all those who don't.....are not necessarily idiots.

Finally, forgive me, but the contempt and disdain you seem to manifest by default, and it feels broad and a bit obliterating ...can never help anyone in fear of learning to get beyond that.

Does it hurt to come upon anyone stuck in this way? It does. But that never means you should defend against that with anger and contempt. Cause that can grow nothing healthy or productive for anyone involved.

I get what you're saying and I would hope folks would want to improve themselves daily as I do but when you see the stuff I have it makes you wonder. Sarcasm and pessimism is just borne of observance of the human race for three decades :whiste:

 

[Virgorising]

I get what you're saying and I would hope folks would want to improve themselves daily as I do but when you see the stuff I have it makes you wonder. Sarcasm and pessimism is just borne of observance of the human race for three decades :whiste:

And I also get what YOU are saying.....and deal with the pain of it ongoing too. But again, carrying contempt isn't so good for us.

For me, cause I think about this a lot, the issue is just trying....making honest efforts. But even in that, some people are honesly convinced they just can't.....that this stuff is just beyond them. They walk around with dark clouds of intimidation inside them.

I try to understand re each individual and try to not loose respect....remember, for me, the people in question are friends & colleagues, not "clients."