newnameman
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neutralizer
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I wouldn't pay $600 for a George Forman grill. Personally, I think the Xbox controllers fit better to my hand than the PS2 controllers. I kinda have to scrunch my hands to use them.
PS1 games weren't exactly 3D intensive when the dual shock came out, which is why the thumb sticks are in secondary positions. Things haven't changed since. All systems intended primarily for 3D gaming have had their thumb sticks in primary positions.
The design is rigid and symmetrical, going for a hard industrial look vs. a potentially unattractive ergonomic look. Not only is the design least comfortable, it is least functional.
They tried incorporating ergonomics in their original PS3 controller boomerang sex-toy design, but it was obviously too drastic a change (it was obvious even there that Sony was pushing for an impressive futuristic look, form over functionality). However even that design failed to change the thumb stick positions...
Again, it is just the stupid Sony fanboys who are holding things back (too scared of change). Everyone I know who owns a PS1/2 along with another system (Xbox/GC) will admit to the PS controller as being clearly inferior.
The whole ?if it ain?t broke? attitude is utter BS. There was nothing wrong with 2D gaming, why did we change? There was nothing wrong with 4:3 ?full screen? gaming, why are we changing? Get over it; there are better ways to game, including how you control it.
middlehead
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They lost the rumble because of a lawsuit, not space concerns. They stole the motion sensing to replace it.
For a system that's supposedly going to fail according to some people here this thing sure gets a lot more attention than the other game consoles.
newnameman
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A. it doesn't get any more attention than Wii does (the Wii for $322 thread just yesterday is a good example)
B. it is news, 360 isn't new so it is kind of hard to hype it up (usually more fun to play it than talk about it)
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thumb sticks are still in the wrong place.
hell, you'd think the japanese would know they're not even supposed to be thumbsticks, you get far greater control by grasping between your index finder and your thumb. that's why radios for r/c airplanes have those narrow sticks on them.
and that thing can't fit in my stereo stack.
hell, you'd think the japanese would know they're not even supposed to be thumbsticks, you get far greater control by grasping between your index finder and your thumb. that's why radios for r/c airplanes have those narrow sticks on them.
and that thing can't fit in my stereo stack.
How do long do you guys think before the price drops to something like $400? I wanna play MSG4 and FF13 and all, but $600 is pretty damn expensive.
destrekor
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Originally posted by: Xanis
What he said...
yea, confused.... cuz im, no original controller ports = no original controllers, all wireless or wired if keeping the USB cord plugged in.
but there is going to be a usb adapter for the PS2 memory cards to transfer saves onto the hard drive for the virtual memory card feature so PS2 games can access old saves.
Sony is already in a tight spot financially with this exploding battery issue, and PS3 is already being sold at a loss. Shareholders aren't happy as it is so I wouldn't expect a price drop for at least 12-18 months. Initial demand will make the PS3 scarce due to low supplies, probably for at least the next year as it is.
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depends on how crappily they're selling, how fast ibm or whoever is fabbing it can make the .65u transition, how quickly blu ray component costs come down, if a cheap version without hard drive is feasible, etc.
edit: all i know is that come october i think i'll be buying up any xbox 360s i see laying around, and if i can manage to squeeze in a ps3 and some wii's i think i'll be great for ebay (though i may be out of the country when it launches... that would suck)
Well that's what I'm saying. Seems like every week there's a thread about what's wrong with it and/or what Sony is doing wrong. I personally don't know what sucks about it since I'm out of the loop and I have no plans of buying the thing. The Wii seems to have gotten most people's approval around here, you'd think there would be more weekly threads about it instead of a system that will supposedly fail.
Originally posted by: bR
Well that's what I'm saying. Seems like every week there's a thread about what's wrong with it and/or what Sony is doing wrong. I personally don't know what sucks about it since I'm out of the loop and I have no plans of buying the thing. The Wii seems to have gotten most people's approval around here, you'd think there would be more weekly threads about it instead of a system that will supposedly fail.
I'll be upfront and say that I like Sony's foward charge to integrate new technology...
but they forget that the fanbase for video games won't be able to handle this price tag. The goal is to improve the technology, but keep the cost at a minimum.
I feel bad for the sales and marketting people who have to deal with convincing people that this is worth it.
I bought my Super Nintendo (the first console I ever paid for on my own) by delivering newspapers for an entire summer... I had to use all of my birthday money to get the last bit of it... but it was worth it. There's no way in hell any kid could look at that thing and hope to afford it doing the kind of work they can. Even a teenager working fast food would have a rough time with that unless their parents pay for everything else. Sony has put a strong percentage of the fan base right in Nintendo and Microsoft's lap. They decided that they should market to people like me who have supposidly grown out of Nintendo's consoles, but fail to realize that many people like me are starting to care less about gaming.
This console will put Sony's gaming division at the status that Sega was at in 2000 by 2008.
IMHO, making a removable optical drive and the option to go either DVD or DVD/Blu-Ray would have been a better cost-saving choice. That alone could drop the price another $100, putting it in an acceptable range for the average buyer. Too bad Sony is working too hard to force their Blu-Ray technology on people. Wouldn't it have been awesome to have paid an extra $100 for the original NES just so you could have a bonus BetaMax player!
To be honest though, I was turned away from all Sony products after I had a digital camera writing corrupt pictures and a Disc Read Error in the same month. I will not buy their products, I will not recommend them, and if I miss out on something, so be it.
but they forget that the fanbase for video games won't be able to handle this price tag. The goal is to improve the technology, but keep the cost at a minimum.
I feel bad for the sales and marketting people who have to deal with convincing people that this is worth it.
I bought my Super Nintendo (the first console I ever paid for on my own) by delivering newspapers for an entire summer... I had to use all of my birthday money to get the last bit of it... but it was worth it. There's no way in hell any kid could look at that thing and hope to afford it doing the kind of work they can. Even a teenager working fast food would have a rough time with that unless their parents pay for everything else. Sony has put a strong percentage of the fan base right in Nintendo and Microsoft's lap. They decided that they should market to people like me who have supposidly grown out of Nintendo's consoles, but fail to realize that many people like me are starting to care less about gaming.
This console will put Sony's gaming division at the status that Sega was at in 2000 by 2008.
IMHO, making a removable optical drive and the option to go either DVD or DVD/Blu-Ray would have been a better cost-saving choice. That alone could drop the price another $100, putting it in an acceptable range for the average buyer. Too bad Sony is working too hard to force their Blu-Ray technology on people. Wouldn't it have been awesome to have paid an extra $100 for the original NES just so you could have a bonus BetaMax player!
To be honest though, I was turned away from all Sony products after I had a digital camera writing corrupt pictures and a Disc Read Error in the same month. I will not buy their products, I will not recommend them, and if I miss out on something, so be it.
TraumaRN
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I'll second you on the expense part. My first console bought on my own was an N64, worked a whole summer mowing lawns and had enough for that plus 2 games. Now I work full time as a student nurse making nearly 16/hour and seeing the PS3's price tag priced it right out of my meager college budget. Now sure I could throw it on my Visa but I couldn't afford to pay it off right away. I mean at my wages 600 bucks is like an entire 40 hour work week.
BeauJangles
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