new socket 754 semprons?

[thelawnet]

I'm looking at AMD's new price list http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoom/0,,51_104_609,00.html, and I'm wondering about the socket 754 semprons listed, in particular the 2600+, 2800+ and 3000+. Are these bartons on socket 754? Or just very low clocked Athlon 64 core processors? The prices ae actually less than the socket a tech

Sempron 2600+ on A64 tech would presumably run at a very low speed, 1.4-1.5Ghz and have a lot of overclocking potential.

But please I would appreciate any further feedback from those more knowledgable.

 

[thelawnet]

anybody got any news/ideas about this?

 

[thelawnet]

Ok, so I found the specs:

Sempron 2600+ skt 754 1.6GHz 128KB l2 cache @ $78
Sempron 2800+ skt 754 1.6GHz 256KB l2 cache @ $88
Sempron 3000+ skt 754 1.8GHz 128KB l2 cache @ $101
Sempron 3100+ (existing product) skt 754 1.8GHz 256KB l2 cache @ $114

Sempron 3300+ will presumably be 2.0GHz and 256KB cache

the cheapest A64 is $122.

A 2400+ mobile barton is either $76 (Desktop replacement) or $81 (normal notebook). So which would give better oc'ed performance? 2400+ barton or 2600 (or better yet the 2800+ with decent cache!)?

I wonder how these new $78 s754 chips will fare, against cheaper socket A semprons, and cheaper socket A motherboards.

 

[clarkey01]

Think theres a 3300 coming out on S745 (Sempron) not too sure, last I heard it may just be a one off for HP

 

[clarkey01]

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=20955

 

[stinger73]

From AMD's website
Sempron Details and Clock speeds

Look at the 3000+ it is clocked at 2Ghz and 512Kb Cache!!!!!!!

Damn looks like an improvement to me

 

[Budman]

I wonder how well these 2600+ socket 754 Semprons would overclock?

 

[Budman]

Originally posted by: stinger73
From AMD's website
Sempron Details and Clock speeds

Look at the 3000+ it is clocked at 2Ghz and 512Kb Cache!!!!!!!

Damn looks like an improvement to me

that 3000+ is basicaly a socket A Barton.

 

[imported_Bleh]

Originally posted by: stinger73
From AMD's website
Sempron Details and Clock speeds

Look at the 3000+ it is clocked at 2Ghz and 512Kb Cache!!!!!!!

Damn looks like an improvement to me

Wouldnt that be the exact same specs as an a64 3000+ socket 754? I guess the sempron would just be able to support the 32 bit architecture.

 

[Falloutboy]

Originally posted by: Budman
I wonder how well these 2600+ socket 754 Semprons would overclock?

i'm woundering also....hopefully well

 

[tallman45]

The Sempron 2800+ looks like a winner with 256kb cache for $88

Are they saving that this performs on par with a A64 2800+ though ?

 

[Remedy]

All Sempron PR printed markings on for comparison with Celeron D spec(prescott) based processors. Not to compare it to its own older brother.

 

[thelawnet]

The Sempron 2800+ looks like a winner with 256kb cache for $88

Are they saving that this performs on par with a A64 2800+ though ?

It won't of course. The Sempron perfomance rating is pretty confusing when ratings mean different things for different products, but roughly speaking take 200 or 300 off to get the Athlon equivalent.

I don't think cache is hugely important for the A64, but here's where all the socket 754 processors will fit in

200MHz fsb
sempron 2600+ 8x multiplier, 128kb cache
sempron 2800+ 8x multiplier, 256kb cache
sempron 3000+ 9x multiplier, 128kb cache
sempron 3100+ 9x multiplier, 256kb cache

the a64 2800+ is either 8x multiplier & 512kb cache, or 9x multiplier & 256kb cache (exactly as the sempron 3100+)

so
sempron 3100+ = a64 2800+
sempron 3000+ = a64 2700+ (maybe a little less)
sempron 2800+ = a64 2500+
sempron 2600+ = a64 2350+

I'm not sure how badly 128kb cache will cripple the processors, but the 2800+ should do 8x about 250MHz if you are lucky, so it's clocking at 2GHz, for roughly Athlon 64 3000+ performance, but for $88 rather than $149.

Not a bad deal, but motherboard prices need to fall further.

 

[Budman]

Originally posted by: thelawnet

The Sempron 2800+ looks like a winner with 256kb cache for $88

Are they saving that this performs on par with a A64 2800+ though ?

It won't of course. The Sempron perfomance rating is pretty confusing when ratings mean different things for different products, but roughly speaking take 200 or 300 off to get the Athlon equivalent.

I don't think cache is hugely important for the A64, but here's where all the socket 754 processors will fit in

200MHz fsb
sempron 2600+ 8x multiplier, 128kb cache
sempron 2800+ 8x multiplier, 256kb cache
sempron 3000+ 9x multiplier, 128kb cache
sempron 3100+ 9x multiplier, 256kb cache

the a64 2800+ is either 8x multiplier & 512kb cache, or 9x multiplier & 256kb cache (exactly as the sempron 3100+)

so
sempron 3100+ = a64 2800+
sempron 3000+ = a64 2700+ (maybe a little less)
sempron 2800+ = a64 2500+
sempron 2600+ = a64 2350+

I'm not sure how badly 128kb cache will cripple the processors, but the 2800+ should do 8x about 250MHz if you are lucky, so it's clocking at 2GHz, for roughly Athlon 64 3000+ performance, but for $88 rather than $149.

Not a bad deal, but motherboard prices need to fall further.

You're wrong on this count,the A64 2800+ has a 9X multiplier with 512k cache and runs at 1800mhz.

 

[gwag]

Originally posted by: stinger73
From AMD's website
Sempron Details and Clock speeds

Look at the 3000+ it is clocked at 2Ghz and 512Kb Cache!!!!!!!

Damn looks like an improvement to me

that 3000+ is a socket A

 

[Budman]

Has anybody seen a 2600+ Socket 754 cpu for sale yet??

 

[imported_bubbalou32]

Looks like Newegg is selling a Sempron 3000 socket 754 - same clockspeed as the 3100/754 but half the L2 cache. First 754 sempron (or is it sempr0n) I've seen other than the 3100.

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDe...P=EMC-neemail021805&ATT=amdath4=643200

 

[MustangSVT]

Originally posted by: bubbalou32
Looks like Newegg is selling a Sempron 3000 socket 754 - same clockspeed as the 3100/754 but half the L2 cache. First 754 sempron (or is it sempr0n) I've seen other than the 3100.

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDe...P=EMC-neemail021805&ATT=amdath4=643200

interesting. wonder what 1/4 cache does against ath 64 cpus.

 

[imported_bubbalou32]

The 2600/2800/3000 Sempron socket 754s are available at MonarchComputers. Check this newer thread: Text