New setup with GIGABYTE GA-EP35C-DS3R + Q6600

[kiriakos]

I currently got an GIGABYTE GA-EP35C-DS3R that I plan to use it with :
1) Q6600 + ProlimaTech Armageddon
2) 2X1 GB (533) PC-4200 4-4-4-12 that looks to work at (667) with 5-5-5 latency ( OCZ Value Pro 1.8)
3) Sapphire HD5770 Vapor-X
4) Hiper 4M780-PE ( 780W )
5) X-Fi music .
6) An Cinergy 600 TV tuner + FM & RDS

Is there any tips that I need ?
1) Bios settings : the memory to cooperate smoothly with the CPU.
2) Bios settings : that will get the CPU to 2.8G

Or what ever you think best, with the current hardware.

Thanks.

 

[AstroGuardian]

It depends on the motherboard. In order to run the CPU @ FSB 1066 the memory should be 667. But to overclock to FSB1333 the memory should be able to go to 800mhz.
If you can run your CPU @ 2,4ghz and the memory is fixed @ 667 than it should be already @ maximum performance.
It'h been a while since i have seen that model of motherboard so i am not 100% sure that you can't go to FSB 1333. So forgive me if i am wrong. It's worth trying however.

 

[kiriakos]

Thanks for the reply ...

I just got the motherboard and I had power it up ..

Luckily, it supports my OCZ memory, and it adjusted by it self the memory FSB to 533 PC-4200 .
Officially looks to support from 667 -> +++
So I am all ready happy :biggrin:

I have two CPU's to play with , an new Dual Core E7500 (2.93G) and the Q6600 (2.4G) .

Currently my PCI-E VGA its still on mail .
And I booted with an old PCI VGA ( monster Fusion - Diamond - 3Dfx Banshee )

Even so I tested the E7500 at stock speed, with the stock Intel cooler.
My room temp are 20C , and with the bios PC health status, at full fan speed 1691 rpm I got after 20 minutes an stable 35C .

I replaced the stock cooler with ProlimaTech Armageddon, and the ProlimaTech Vortex 2 fan 1000rpm , and I got on the CPU 19C !! :biggrin:
Unbelievable !! 16C drop instantly.

I have set manually the Cas latency to 4-4-4-12 , the MB at auto detected them as 5-4-4-12 .

I am lost a bit about the Bios setting : System memory multiplier.
And how that translates with the memory FSB.

I have currently the MB on a carton box , and so I do not have load any OS , yet.

It has some funky LEDs next to the Ram modules.
I am starting to like it ..

( Sounds Funny but the South bridge looks Hot 47C )
The North bridge next to the CPU are almost frozen.

Pictures ..

 

[AstroGuardian]

Lol my friend. Ok, it seems like you really are a bit lost in BIOS settings.

"I am lost a bit about the Bios setting : System memory multiplier.
And how that translates with the memory FSB."

There is no such thing as memory FSB. System memory multiplier serves to adjust the memory frequency depending on the FSB frequency and to match the manufacturer stated memory speed. For example you set the FSB to 333 and it drives the memory at 1066 MHz but your memory can do 667 right? So you adjust the system memory multiplier to lower the frequency from 1066 to 667 which will make the machine bootable.
Your temps and voltage are fine.
Since both your processors operate at FSB 1066 (your FSB in bios is stated like 266 but it multiplies always by 4 and you get 266 x 4 = 1066) then i suggest you go with the Q6600 since it's quad core and you can overclock 4 cores instead of 2 with the E7500 (but the E7500 can reach higher frequency).

So, doyou have any more questions about this?

 

[kiriakos]

Well I belong to the very old overclockers ,
started with Celeron slot1 226 ( two decades back ), after 10 upgrades, ended to ASUS P4C800-E deluxe & P4 3.2 ( with OCZ platinum 2-2-2-5) .

But some how , to set those "modern" systems , looks today that are 100 times more hard.

Now I am on the motherboards school again .... learning all those information's about Intel straps !!
That is a bit more confusing as theory for the many ..

Both CPU's looks to have unlocked CPU ratio 1-8 X266=Q6600 1-11 X266= E5700
At the 266 Strap the setting 2.0 looks to keep manually the 533 DDR memory at the rated FSB ( that actually are 133X4 ) .

I did an quick test , by the settings:
11X 266
266 FSB
2.0 memory multiplier ( 533 )

I started to bump the CPU FSB manually up to the point that the memory got at the 677 DDRII speed ( 4X166) 5-5-5-15 .
It booted ok , and the CPU get OCed to 3.5 G .

I do not find any advanced settings " Control+F1 " , other than the this screen .

( Plus it bothers me that the south bridge ICH runs that hot )

 

[AstroGuardian]

Ok, you managed to obtain a descent overclock.

About the ICH you said it's 47c hot? That's not hot at all. It's normal. And it might be hotter since it has a small heatsink. That chip can go up to 80-90c with no problems at all. So don't worry about the ICH

 

[kiriakos]

I bet that I am not the only fool , who reads the MB manual looking for the "famous advanced screen " , and he gets mad by finding that the Ctrl+F1 does not work ...

But the smart boys in Gigabyte they changed the screen name at their latest Bios releases F4 , to M.I.T. MB intelligent tweaker , and its there and not hidden at all .

Any way lets hope that the people who will land by Google on this thread,
they will found the answer about it ..
The most threads about the GA-EP35C-DS3R , looks outdated .

@AstroGuardian

I just upgraded to this system , by having in mind, that it will be able to handle video editing , with the Corel Video Studio X3.
I just got an Sanyo HD1010 1080P HD camera , and my old system was unable to handle video conversion , and even playback was a stress to it.
And so yes, the Q6600 will be my main CPU .

In the begging , I got an good for nothing ASROCK motherboard ,
that supports Dual and Quads and has AGP port. ( so to use my HD3850)
The E7500 failed to boot on it (Proper Bios was on it) , and send the CPU back for RMA , before sending it I had an accident with it, the CPU fall from my hands and hit the ground , and the one corner of it got a bit damaged.
The small damage was enough as reason so the RMA request to be canceled.
By this Fear in mind , I got the Q6600 used , at the same day that I send the other CPU for RMA .

And the Q6600, failed to boot on the Asrock too , and this was a sign that the Asrock board are in bad condition, it booted only with single core CPU , and even so it was unstable.

The long story sort, the company that I got the E7500 tested it, and it was worked, and I got from them the GIGABYTE as Used,
and yes ... this is an real motherboard.

I am going to remove the E7500, and install the Q6600.
Now that I have some experience with it , I will be able to compare the temperatures .

My new VGA will come from Germany in 5 days from now.
So I have all the time ahead to explore the motherboard.

And the next very important task , are to load on it my Raid 1 HDD setup ,
that works on my current ASUS motherboard.
With out the need, to format anything.
This is the true challenge , that I have to face , and I do not know how I will make it yet .

Any way, I will deal with anything at the right time..

 

[kiriakos]

Q6600 in action ....

6 Celsius hotter than the E7500 at stock speed .. interesting.

And now the jump to 2.93G,
stock speed of the E7500, in quad mode :biggrin:

I have no idea about the core voltage, so to be stable at that speed, but i will find out.

 

[AstroGuardian]

You can set the Q6600 to 333x9. FSB 326 is a bit odd.

Anyway post me in private when you rebuild your RAID1 setup. I will help you with that also. I have done it million times already.

And for the ASrock board, it sound like it has some broken voltage regulation modules which can't handle supplying all 4 cores. I recommend you give it the trash bin treatment.
By the way, where are you from mate?

 

[kiriakos]

About the Q6600 I had read some ppl that with stock voltage can do about 3G .. But I deliberately set it at 2.93G at my test, so to compare the core temperature against the E7500 .

The E7500 I have to admit that it is an very cool chip , and so it does not need at all special coolers at stock speed .

About the Asrock , the trash bin treatment its my only thought too.

About the Raid , this board has two Raid controllers,
the Intel one with 6X Ports , and an special high speed with two ports.
About the Raid controllers , most of the times I select the one with the more utilities in it , mostly about Raid repairs.
My "Raid-1" runs with two WD Raptors 75G.

And about Geography .. Central Greece .

 

[AstroGuardian]

What? A special high speed two ports? Those ports aren't special high speed. Those two ports are held by the GigaRAID or Jmicron controller which are slower than Intel's RAID controller. And they can offer only RAID 0, 1 or J-BOD.

You say your RAID1 runs two WD Raptors. You do that for speed or for disk failure protection?

And about Geography from my point i live in Macedonia in Skopje

Cheers mate

 

[kiriakos]

There is no Macedonia in Yugoslavia , Good night mate ...

Your land called Vardaska , and always will be Vardaska ..

 

[AstroGuardian]

There is no Yugoslavija and Greece. Greeks are just leftover bastards from Macedonian armies throughout centuries.

 

[AstroGuardian]

It's pathetic how ungrateful bastards you greeks are. You are just pathetic.

 

[kiriakos]

I am not going to debate with any one who pops up from nowhere ,
and paraphrases the world-wide history.

Simple as that.

 

[AstroGuardian]

I am not going to debate with any one who pops up from nowhere ,
and paraphrases the world-wide history.

Simple as that.

You are as wrong as a greek. Shown thousand times through history. You are too low life for me to talk to. You broke every rule in the forums, insulted me without being provoked. You broke every written and non written rule for fair and right behavior.

I will leave you with your misery now.
While he insulted you first indirectly (I sure didn't get it) you directly insulted him.
No more of this, or you will get a vacation.

And this does go for him also, you just went one step farther.
Markfw900
Anandtech Moderator

 

[Markfw]

OK you two, no more insults, and back to the topic, or I lock it and you both get infractions.

 

[kiriakos]

Thanks for the response , please ban me and delete the thread..

 

[ViviTheMage]

thanks for the response , please ban me and delete the thread..

lol

 

[Markfw]

Thanks for the response , please ban me and delete the thread..

This is a technical forum, not a place to discuss political views. Try the "Politics and news" forum with your opinions in this area.

 

[kiriakos]

Ok, if the threatening by this Yugoslavian, and the insults about " bastard Greeks " are accepted as use of language ...

I return the package back to him , by the exact same feelings . :biggrin:

Now that the balance got restored , lets continue with the " technical ".

NO, none of the above is accepted use of language, stay technical PERIOD.
Otherwise, I will give infractions, bans, and lock this thread.
STOP NOW.

Your last warning both of you
Markfw900
Anandtech Moderator.

 

[kiriakos]

Ok Mark , I move on ...

And so here is one "happy shot" , that's how I call it

All those threads of Mark , about the Q6600 its an small treasure for the noobs at the Quad cores .

I had post above an picture of the Q6600 at the default V-core ,
the temp was 29C ..

Then tried to under Volt .. at 0.90 it failed to boot ,
but it did it at 0.9500 ( Bios Value)

I booted with an Reatogo CD & run Everest portable,
and the temps had dropped to 21C ... unbelievable..

I found that at stock speed , my memory multiplier are 1:1,
and that's great for my taste .
I care less to overclock , as it looks that I have at this point stability + low temps + works nicely with just 533 DDRII , that it was not documented that EP35C-DS3R , it does .
I got this memory originally to work on a good for nothing Asrock, that was supporting 533 ( documented ).

Any way , here is the picture ...

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[AstroGuardian]

As far as i can remember you asked some help regarding overclocking. You changed your mind? Your temps were just fine. If you undervolt your CPU you might run into problems with further usage and under certain circumstances. 0.95v is too low for a quad core.

 

[kiriakos]

I need impressions about the GIGABYTE GBB36X Controller.
Also called as GIGABYTE Sata2 raid ( on chip is the code 0721V)

It must be this chip http://www.jmicron.com/Product_JMB362.htm
are any known reviews about it ?

It looks that company behind it (JMB), it does an good work on updating drivers ..

ftp://driver.jmicron.com.tw/jmb36x/XP_Vista_Win7/ReleaseNote.txt

ftp://driver.jmicron.com.tw/jmb36x/XP_Vista_Win7/

Last version JMB36X_R1.17.59_WHQL 4/10/2010 d/m/y

Edit :
Found an review .. http://www.hardocp.com/article/2009/05/06/msi_eclipse_sli_x58_motherboard/3

This controller , its a killer in speed and bandwidth . :thumbsup:

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[AstroGuardian]

That controller sucks in stability and longevity.... just like your profile pic. But you can use it anyhow. It will give you RAID0 and 1