NEW s939 OPTERONS IN STOCK AT EWIZ
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Does Opteron support unbuffered memory like the A64, or does it need buffered/registered like many other server CPU's ?
So much for Monachcomputer being the major e-tail outlet for AMD. Looks like they're late to the dance once again. These aren't even available for pre-order there yet.
And apparently these are cherry-picked cores, like the mobile Bartons, so they should be good overclockers. According to intial reports this might be the new Celeron 300, but then I can remember when the Venice was first tested and people were reporting/predicting 3GHz on air.
I'll probably get a 144 or 146 anyway.
I'll probably get a 144 or 146 anyway.
Originally posted by: Fresh Daemon
And apparently these are cherry-picked cores, like the mobile Bartons, so they should be good overclockers. According to intial reports this might be the new Celeron 300, but then I can remember when the Venice was first tested and people were reporting/predicting 3GHz on air.
I'll probably get a 144 or 146 anyway.
Celeron 300?
Come on!!
How about Northwood 1.6a
Athlon XP 1700+ @ 2.4 was stellar..
My Athlon64 ( Ferris 23 owns now ) is 1.8ghz @ 2.9ghz
Fvck the Celly 300!
The Celeron 300A easily hit 450 MHz for a 50% o/c. My Venice 3000+ runs 1.8 GHz and o/c to 2.7 with a stock fan for a 50% o/c. Sounds like it is made in the same vein as the 300A if you ask me.
Sure, but the 300A was the one that really started it all. Before then you were usually talking about a few more MHz, not adding at least 50% to the speed!
And yes, there have been some good ones since then. I just felt it would have looked stupid to say, "This could be the new Celeron 300A/Celeron 366/1.6a Northwood/2500+ Barton/Mobile Barton/Mobile Clawhammer/Venice 3000+/whatever." Not quite as dramatic.
Don't forget that it's also about how common the overclock is. Anyone who bought a 300A was basically guaranteed 450, but there are lots of Venice cores out there that won't hit 2500MHz.
And yes, there have been some good ones since then. I just felt it would have looked stupid to say, "This could be the new Celeron 300A/Celeron 366/1.6a Northwood/2500+ Barton/Mobile Barton/Mobile Clawhammer/Venice 3000+/whatever." Not quite as dramatic.
Don't forget that it's also about how common the overclock is. Anyone who bought a 300A was basically guaranteed 450, but there are lots of Venice cores out there that won't hit 2500MHz.
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There has been decent overclocks before then, perhaps not quite an easy 50% but pretty close.
486DX2-50 chips were ease 66MHz or even 80MHz. 486DX2-66 were an easy 80MHz. 486DX4-100 were an easy 120MHz.
Pentium 75 often would go 90-100MHz.
The Pentium MMX-166 was such a sure bet at 233MHz that there was a huge trade in remark chips.
The AMD K6-200 chips were often good to 250MHz.
Before the Celeron 300A there was the Celeron 266@400MHz.
There were some cherry Pentium II 333MHz chips that would do 500MHz, indeed a whole bunch of them had the faster speed cache needed. I think some slower cores also had faster cache as well. These weren't as popular as the Celeron 300A because of the higher cost.
Celeron 2GHz were a sure 2.66GHz. Mine pretty much hit 3GHz and I'm sure I wasn't the only one.
The slower Celeron D chips (Deleron) at 2.4GHz and under would often get a 50% overclock, especially the 2.26GHz and 2.13GHz ones (models 320, 315 and 310 respectively).
Well, the "Malay" ones were an easy 450MHz. The "Costa Rica" ones were not as good. The became more "guaranteed" when they released the 366MHz because a greater portion of those hit 550 than the 300A at 450MHz.
The 266 was a cacheless CPU and therefore useless.
I think you have that reversed. The 366 Had the Costa Rica issue. I always had goodluck because I bought retail and every retail was was the Malaysia cores. 3/5 Oem purchasers I helped couldn't hit it with same setup unless I had picked them at computer shows. Every 300a I worked with Hit 450.
The 300a was the interduction of overclocking to the masses and was heloed along by Abits big push with jumperless overclocking. Each thing that has come since is a comparison of the 300A. What was really nice about it as well was its price $50 and you got better performance then the top of the line 450 same with the 366 when it hit 550.
Aaaaaaaaaaaanyway...
Anyone sighted these 144's and 146's yet? I'm keen to get my hands on an early 144 before they pull their usual stunt and make the later ones overclock worse. And you have to love that Opteron memory controller. It's shaping up to be a poor man's FX57 right now.
Anyone seen any in Canada? Or anyplace that'll ship here?
Anyone sighted these 144's and 146's yet? I'm keen to get my hands on an early 144 before they pull their usual stunt and make the later ones overclock worse. And you have to love that Opteron memory controller. It's shaping up to be a poor man's FX57 right now.
Anyone seen any in Canada? Or anyplace that'll ship here?
there are few retailers selling them (unknown) if you check out froogle.com but they are all sold out!
i tried one etailer but they were backordered indefinitely.
there are 2 guys over at XS.org that have access to these chips (opteron 144 and 146), one in the UK (i think) and one in the states (Cali).
i tried one etailer but they were backordered indefinitely.
there are 2 guys over at XS.org that have access to these chips (opteron 144 and 146), one in the UK (i think) and one in the states (Cali).
Hmmm. I should get in touch with the American one and see if he'll ship one up here. I think I know who you're talking about.
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
The new 939 Opterons support unbuffered memory.
Freakin sweet! Now I'm looking forward to these as well!
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Sure the 266/300 were cacheless, but they did prime people for the 300A. Reports were that games (at the time) got a minimal hit from no cache.
"remind you of the Celeron 300a days when week # something and a Malay core was better than any week Costa Rica core"
The guy in the US said his supplier has just dried up too and availability is unknown. That means as of now, there's not one 144 or 146 s939 chip available to buy in the US.
What's more distressing, the next shipment will most likely be a different week and who knows if AMD will start binning them. (layman: the next batch might not overclock nearly as well).
EDIT: The other guy is in Belgium and (in IMO) is asking too much for them.
I wouldn't worry about that too much. The first 20 weeks of Venices were all really good, and arguably the best ones were the Week 19's. So we should be alright, most places on Froogle are forecasting having stock again by the end of this week.
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