New rider adventures, observations, and close calls.

fuzzybabybunny

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Got 800 miles on the odo now and some interesting thoughts and stories:

1. I started to feel really comfortable with the bike around 500 miles. I guess the bike and I both broke in at about the same time, as well as my leather gear. When I first got the bike it felt heavy and cumbersome. Now I feel more in tune with it, and it is a very nimble machine. Heck, it even feels lighter stopped at stop lights now.

2. I find excuses to ride. Need to go to the movies? How about the one five towns over? Need some coffee? I think I need to ride all the way to the coast to get that.

3. Other bikers are really friendly and always give a hand wave, which can be kinda annoying when you pass a biker once every 10 seconds or so - I feel like I'm always waving back.

4. Lots of people have told me I have an awesome bike :)

5. Is it just me or do the sport bike riders adhere to ATGATT the best? They've always got leathers, full face helmets, racing boots, and racing gloves. Harley riders wear vests, jeans, and half helmets. Scooter riders wear just a helmet. Cruisers wear in-between sport and Harley riders.

5. Close calls are everywhere. Yesterday I almost got rear ended by some Mercedes doing 100+ on the highway. I was switching lanes, checked my mirror, saw a guy way off in the distance, did a head check to confirm there was nothing, started switching, and did a second head check and this time there was a front bumper 3 feet from my rear. I didn't jerk anything, stayed smooth, accelerated, and the guy blew past me, and kept on blowing past everyone else. Today a guy texting pulled out right in front of me. I predicted it way in advance and slowed down. Sure enough, he came upon and went through the fucking turn with his eyes glued to his cell phone screen the whole entire time. I honked at him for good measure and he looked up and still seemed oblivious.

6. Had a really scary ride at odo reading 550. Up in the mountains at near midnight for 100 miles. Constant hairpins and twists, no lights except for my headlights which don't shine into the turns worth shit, and rain and fog making my visor and glasses visibility very very poor. At times visibility seemed to be only 10 feet, and this is on top of foggy optics. And it was cold and wet. Basically one of those rides where you know that there is a very real and immediate danger to your life, AND you know you've gotta tough it out for a long time because you're already in the middle of nowhere and you've gotta just ride it through. Went too wide in a hairpin once and crossed into the other lane, and fought to not slide out after I pulled over into the dirt shoulder letting a tailgater pass. Having mountain biking experience and knowing how to be gentle yet effective with the brakes helped.

7. Riding is so not sexy at times. Most of the time it's hot and sweaty as hell. Gearing up and down takes time and isn't spontaneous. Helmets make you look like a giant bobble head. Duck walking a bike backwards is awkward. Your hair is all matted down and flat looking after you take off your helmet. You have to gear up in a specific order. Take keys out of pocket, put in ignition, put in earplugs, put on helmet, put on glasses, and put on gloves last. Can't tell you how many times I've got all my gear on only to realize I forgot to put in my ear plugs, and I gotta go it all over again.

8. How are you supposed to park the bike in a parking spot? Most riders park as far into it as their bikes can go, but I park just enough inside so my tail can easily be seen from a distance by other cars searching for a spot.

9. I don't understand sleeve length for leather jackets. You guys say they come up to halfway up you palm. But when they're zipped up, they are at the bottom of you palm at your wrist, right? So the sleeves feel bunched up? And when you have gauntlet gloves, the leather from the jacket at the wrist and the leather of the gauntlet gloves makes a double layer of leather that makes wrist turning difficult...
 
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Greenman

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5. Is it just me or do the sport bike riders adhere to ATGATT the best? They've always got leathers, full face helmets, racing boots, and racing gloves. Harley riders wear vests, jeans, and half helmets. Scooter riders wear just a helmet. Cruisers wear in-between sport and Harley riders.

I've noticed that as well. Though around here, we seem to have no shortage of squids. Kids on liter bikes wearing a t-shirt, shorts and flip flops, generally doing twice the speed limit.
 

PhoKingGuy

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I've noticed that as well. Though around here, we seem to have no shortage of squids. Kids on liter bikes wearing a t-shirt, shorts and flip flops, generally doing twice the speed limit.

I saw a middle aged woman on the 55 South last week going 65 on a Ninja 250 wearing a tank top and shorts with a helmet. She had a beach chair and a duffle bag bungie corded to the back of her bike as well. I had to do a double take to make sure I saw it correctly
 

SithSolo1

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I haven't seen anyone in full leathers on a bike around here lately. The sport/drag riders are all wearing jeans with chest protectors or jeans and T-shirts. The cruisers are wearing pants or shorts and shirts. The scooters are out in force and zippin all over the place like headless chickens, at least they have helmets on.

I dunno if its common but I've seen a lot of sport riders riding one-handed lately.
 

punjabiplaya

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Saw a dude on a Harley wearing a the bright orange with black block letters "CAN YOU SEE ME NOW ASSHOLE?" shirt. love it.
 

TraumaRN

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In reference to your close calls, remember it's everyone's responsibility to share the road. Don't be that dick biker. I almost nailed a biker today the first would have killed him, the second was well...more of a tiny bit of revenge on my part. Both times were dickish(and dangerous as all hell) on his part. The first time was a rail road crossing, on a two lane road, he thought that because there was no oncoming traffic he could attempt to pass me in a no passing zone while going over said railroad tracks at about 40 MPH, except they are bad tracks, he wobbled really hard coming off the tracks, and veered hard towards me, I had to slam on the brakes to avoid being side swiped then he took off like a freaking rocket, easily probably hitting 60 in a 35mph zone.

2 minutes later and this was partially me being a dick for his little stunt, he was stopped to turn left...and was texting on his cell phone..I needed to turn left as well, the left turn light turned green and he was oblivious...I silently was behind him in my hybrid and rolled forward just enough to bumper tap his back wheel then I blasted my horn. Totally woke him up from his oblivious texting world and with phone still in hand ripped into this left turn and again probably hit 60mph this time in a 40mph.

Please enjoy your biking responsibly which it sounds like you are doing. And I'm glad to hear your wear full gear...as an ER and trauma nurse, it's nice knowing some people value their lives and especially their skin while biking.
 

StageLeft

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In reference to your close calls, remember it's everyone's responsibility to share the road. Don't be that dick biker. I almost nailed a biker today the first would have killed him, the second was well...more of a tiny bit of revenge on my part. Both times were dickish(and dangerous as all hell) on his part. The first time was a rail road crossing, on a two lane road, he thought that because there was no oncoming traffic he could attempt to pass me in a no passing zone while going over said railroad tracks at about 40 MPH, except they are bad tracks, he wobbled really hard coming off the tracks, and veered hard towards me, I had to slam on the brakes to avoid being side swiped then he took off like a freaking rocket, easily probably hitting 60 in a 35mph zone.

2 minutes later and this was partially me being a dick for his little stunt, he was stopped to turn left...and was texting on his cell phone..I needed to turn left as well, the left turn light turned green and he was oblivious...I silently was behind him in my hybrid and rolled forward just enough to bumper tap his back wheel then I blasted my horn. Totally woke him up from his oblivious texting world and with phone still in hand ripped into this left turn and again probably hit 60mph this time in a 40mph.

Please enjoy your biking responsibly which it sounds like you are doing. And I'm glad to hear your wear full gear...as an ER and trauma nurse, it's nice knowing some people value their lives and especially their skin while biking.
You knowingly bumped his back wheel with your car?
 

roguerower

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Got 800 miles on the odo now and some interesting thoughts and stories:

1. I started to feel really comfortable with the bike around 500 miles. The more you ride, the more comfortable you are going to feel with yourself and your bike. I passed through 1800mi this weekend and I'm still discovering new things. Look at my most recent post for more info.

2. I find excuses to ride. As soon as it get's cooler here I'll probably be the same way. Right now the temp is 100+ and when you factor in humidity the HI is easily over 115. Doing 30-60mph for errands isn't enough to cool me off just yet and I am never not going to wear my gear.

3. Other bikers are really friendly. You unknowingly joined a cult. It's kinda like the jeep wave. Just an acknowledgement that you aren't a pussy and have crossed over to the fun side. You don't have to wave, simply putting up 2 fingers on the handlebars should be enough.

4. Lots of people have told me I have an awesome bike. I agree. That new 250r is a pretty good looking bike. Tell all those hippy prius owners to shove it. You get 60mpg and can accelerate.

5. Is it just me or do the sport bike riders adhere to ATGATT the best? Bit of a generalization. Texas doesn't have a helmet law so from what I've seen: Cruiser riders for the most part don't wear helmets. Some may wear chaps, some may wear vests, but there's no common thread. Sportbike riders seem to be broken into two groups: posers (helmet maybe) and riders (ATGATT).

5. Close calls are everywhere. Cagers are stupid. Give em a wide berth and ride aggressively (don't pussyfoot around but don't be a jackass) but defensively.

6. Had a really scary ride at odo reading 550. Not a smart call on your part. Why were you riding a road in bad weather that you hadn't ridden before in good weather?

7. Riding is so not sexy at times. The sacrifices you make to go zoom-zoom

8. How are you supposed to park the bike in a parking spot? Usually find a spot to pull through, that way I can just drive out without having to walk it back into traffic.

9. I don't understand sleeve length for leather jackets. Don't have a leather jacket, can't help

Seems like you're doing well. Keep it up and ride safe.
 

StageLeft

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htf do you text while riding a motorcycle?
Only at lights I guess unless you are wicked hardcore. TBH, though, if I was bumped at a light by somebody in a car (even if I was an ass texting) I would stop my bike, get their plate, and call the cops even if no damage and report them as dangerous driving. This if I felt they'd done it deliberately.

BTW I saw a guy on a dirt bike at the tracks pass some cars and shoot over the tracks. And, similar to above, they were not perpendicular, so the guy looked pretty damn unstable as he came down.
 

roguerower

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Blah blah blah

Please enjoy your biking responsibly which it sounds like you are doing. And I'm glad to hear your wear full gear...as an ER and trauma nurse, it's nice knowing some people value their lives and especially their skin while biking.

Don't fuck around with bikers, you never know when you're going to set off the wrong person. Riding on saturday with some new guys, one told a story about how one day they were out riding, and got stuck behind a mini-van. It was a big group (20-30 sportbikes) and after about half of the bikes had passed the van, the driver started to get stupid and started weaving all over the road when a bike tried to pass them. Eventually one of the bikers rode up next to the van, looked the driver in the eye, and then kicked the guys side mirror off. I don't know what happened to him, but just a warning not to fuck with people when you don't know how to react.

Also, what if you'd freaked him out and he dropped his bike?
 

TraumaRN

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Don't fuck around with bikers, you never know when you're going to set off the wrong person. Riding on saturday with some new guys, one told a story about how one day they were out riding, and got stuck behind a mini-van. It was a big group (20-30 sportbikes) and after about half of the bikes had passed the van, the driver started to get stupid and started weaving all over the road when a bike tried to pass them. Eventually one of the bikers rode up next to the van, looked the driver in the eye, and then kicked the guys side mirror off. I don't know what happened to him, but just a warning not to fuck with people when you don't know how to react.

Also, what if you'd freaked him out and he dropped his bike?

Yeah I know I was being essentially just as big of an ass as he was but it seriously was a stupid and illegal move on the railroad tracks, and then to be texting...which is illegal in my state even when stopped at a light...is even more dangerous. Not to mention he must have had it in neutral because his tail light wasn't lit up. What if someone who wasnt paying attention just saw the green left turn arrow and not him? Biker sandwich would have followed. Not to mention he looked all of 18, with just a helmet, gloves, shorts and a t-shirt on a kawasaki. I'm not saying what I did was nice, or even right, but that biker should realize he's gonna lose if he continues to drive like that.
 

roguerower

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Yeah I know I was being essentially just as big of an ass as he was but it seriously was a stupid and illegal move on the railroad tracks, and then to be texting...which is illegal in my state even when stopped at a light...is even more dangerous. Not to mention he must have had it in neutral because his tail light wasn't lit up. What if someone who wasnt paying attention just saw the green left turn arrow and not him? Biker sandwich would have followed. Not to mention he looked all of 18, with just a helmet, gloves, shorts and a t-shirt on a kawasaki. I'm not saying what I did was nice, or even right, but that biker should realize he's gonna lose if he continues to drive like that.

Didn't know that first part, and to the second two all I have to say is squid.

That said, I'll put my bike in neutral at a red light to stretch, but not before there's at least 5 cars behind me and even then I'll keep an eye on my mirrors.
 

ussfletcher

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Don't fuck around with bikers, you never know when you're going to set off the wrong person. Riding on saturday with some new guys, one told a story about how one day they were out riding, and got stuck behind a mini-van. It was a big group (20-30 sportbikes) and after about half of the bikes had passed the van, the driver started to get stupid and started weaving all over the road when a bike tried to pass them. Eventually one of the bikers rode up next to the van, looked the driver in the eye, and then kicked the guys side mirror off. I don't know what happened to him, but just a warning not to fuck with people when you don't know how to react.

Yeah, my uncle used to tell me that guys he rode with would carry a handful of steel ball bearings in their pocket and were known to let them go into windshields if people got to close. Needless to say, I leave room for bikes now.

Edit: not a gang or anything, just regular guys.
 

JulesMaximus

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Got 800 miles on the odo now and some interesting thoughts and stories:

1. I started to feel really comfortable with the bike around 500 miles. I guess the bike and I both broke in at about the same time, as well as my leather gear. When I first got the bike it felt heavy and cumbersome. Now I feel more in tune with it, and it is a very nimble machine. Heck, it even feels lighter stopped at stop lights now.

2. I find excuses to ride. Need to go to the movies? How about the one five towns over? Need some coffee? I think I need to ride all the way to the coast to get that.

3. Other bikers are really friendly and always give a hand wave, which can be kinda annoying when you pass a biker once every 10 seconds or so - I feel like I'm always waving back.

4. Lots of people have told me I have an awesome bike :)

5. Is it just me or do the sport bike riders adhere to ATGATT the best? They've always got leathers, full face helmets, racing boots, and racing gloves. Harley riders wear vests, jeans, and half helmets. Scooter riders wear just a helmet. Cruisers wear in-between sport and Harley riders.

5. Close calls are everywhere. Yesterday I almost got rear ended by some Mercedes doing 100+ on the highway. I was switching lanes, checked my mirror, saw a guy way off in the distance, did a head check to confirm there was nothing, started switching, and did a second head check and this time there was a front bumper 3 feet from my rear. I didn't jerk anything, stayed smooth, accelerated, and the guy blew past me, and kept on blowing past everyone else. Today a guy texting pulled out right in front of me. I predicted it way in advance and slowed down. Sure enough, he came upon and went through the fucking turn with his eyes glued to his cell phone screen the whole entire time. I honked at him for good measure and he looked up and still seemed oblivious.

6. Had a really scary ride at odo reading 550. Up in the mountains at near midnight for 100 miles. Constant hairpins and twists, no lights except for my headlights which don't shine into the turns worth shit, and rain and fog making my visor and glasses visibility very very poor. At times visibility seemed to be only 10 feet, and this is on top of foggy optics. And it was cold and wet. Basically one of those rides where you know that there is a very real and immediate danger to your life, AND you know you've gotta tough it out for a long time because you're already in the middle of nowhere and you've gotta just ride it through. Went too wide in a hairpin once and crossed into the other lane, and fought to not slide out after I pulled over into the dirt shoulder letting a tailgater pass. Having mountain biking experience and knowing how to be gentle yet effective with the brakes helped.

7. Riding is so not sexy at times. Most of the time it's hot and sweaty as hell. Gearing up and down takes time and isn't spontaneous. Helmets make you look like a giant bobble head. Duck walking a bike backwards is awkward. Your hair is all matted down and flat looking after you take off your helmet. You have to gear up in a specific order. Take keys out of pocket, put in ignition, put in earplugs, put on helmet, put on glasses, and put on gloves last. Can't tell you how many times I've got all my gear on only to realize I forgot to put in my ear plugs, and I gotta go it all over again.

8. How are you supposed to park the bike in a parking spot? Most riders park as far into it as their bikes can go, but I park just enough inside so my tail can easily be seen from a distance by other cars searching for a spot.

9. I don't understand sleeve length for leather jackets. You guys say they come up to halfway up you palm. But when they're zipped up, they are at the bottom of you palm at your wrist, right? So the sleeves feel bunched up? And when you have gauntlet gloves, the leather from the jacket at the wrist and the leather of the gauntlet gloves makes a double layer of leather that makes wrist turning difficult...

Gauntlet gloves are supposed to overlap your jacket sleeves by quite a bit. This is so the sleeves don't ride up and leave your wrists exposed in a get off. The sleeves of my jackets come up almost to the base of my hand.

Be careful with getting too comfortable while riding because this can lead to a lower level of alertness which can lead to an accident. You always need to be 100% focused on what you are doing at all times.

Texting while riding is for idiots with a death wish. I carry a cell phone just in case of emergency. Nothing is that important that I need to text someone while riding. If I need to make a call I'll pull over to a quiet area, shut the bike off and remove my helmet to make a call. That said, I've never seen anyone text while riding. I have seen a guy smoke a cigar while riding though. :D
 

StageLeft

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Yeah I know I was being essentially just as big of an ass as he was but it seriously was a stupid and illegal move on the railroad tracks, and then to be texting...which is illegal in my state even when stopped at a light...is even more dangerous. Not to mention he must have had it in neutral because his tail light wasn't lit up. What if someone who wasnt paying attention just saw the green left turn arrow and not him? Biker sandwich would have followed. Not to mention he looked all of 18, with just a helmet, gloves, shorts and a t-shirt on a kawasaki. I'm not saying what I did was nice, or even right, but that biker should realize he's gonna lose if he continues to drive like that.
When my wife and I see guys on sport bikes acting like that we just blurt out statements like "a week" or "three days", that time being the point at which he'll kill himself. It will happen; any comeuppance you feel that guy deserves he will receive in spades if he continues to ride like that, it is sacrosanct.
 

PricklyPete

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Yeah, my uncle used to tell me that guys he rode with would carry a handful of steel ball bearings in their pocket and were known to let them go into windshields if people got to close. Needless to say, I leave room for bikes now.

Edit: not a gang or anything, just regular guys.

That's just wrong (as is not giving people enough space). Jackass drivers just piss me off...whether in a car or a bike.
 

PricklyPete

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To be honest, the idea of having to put on a bunch of leathers and protective gear just doesn't sound fun on a regular basis. I'm sure throwing it on for an exhilarating ride on the weekends would be fun...but for regular usage...no thanks.
 
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In reference to your close calls, remember it's everyone's responsibility to share the road. Don't be that dick biker. I almost nailed a biker today the first would have killed him, the second was well...more of a tiny bit of revenge on my part. Both times were dickish(and dangerous as all hell) on his part. The first time was a rail road crossing, on a two lane road, he thought that because there was no oncoming traffic he could attempt to pass me in a no passing zone while going over said railroad tracks at about 40 MPH, except they are bad tracks, he wobbled really hard coming off the tracks, and veered hard towards me, I had to slam on the brakes to avoid being side swiped then he took off like a freaking rocket, easily probably hitting 60 in a 35mph zone.

2 minutes later and this was partially me being a dick for his little stunt, he was stopped to turn left...and was texting on his cell phone..I needed to turn left as well, the left turn light turned green and he was oblivious...I silently was behind him in my hybrid and rolled forward just enough to bumper tap his back wheel then I blasted my horn. Totally woke him up from his oblivious texting world and with phone still in hand ripped into this left turn and again probably hit 60mph this time in a 40mph.

Please enjoy your biking responsibly which it sounds like you are doing. And I'm glad to hear your wear full gear...as an ER and trauma nurse, it's nice knowing some people value their lives and especially their skin while biking.



I call complete and total BS on that second part about rear ending the bike.



If it isn't BS, it's an incredibly ridiculously stupid thing to do - far far far worse than him passing you on some railroad tracks. I'd guess that 50% of the riders I know carry, and all would take what you did as a direct threat of their life.
 

SViper

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FBB, welcome to the cult of riders. :D

Glad you are having fun on your bike, and you are serious about your safety. I'm on a cruiser, but I still wear boots, gloves, jacket w/ CE armor inserts, and full-face helmet. I stick with jeans for pants. There are so many people out on the road in shorts and a t-shirt that I can't imagine why would they do that. I've done a quick google search before on road rash and the idea of taking a wire brush to my skin to get the asphalt out doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

I always make a point to look at a driver inside of their vehicle to predict their actions. I always give a wide berth to people who are on cell phones, or those who just aren't paying attention in general.
 

JulesMaximus

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I call complete and total BS on that second part about rear ending the bike.



If it isn't BS, it's an incredibly ridiculously stupid thing to do - far far far worse than him passing you on some railroad tracks. I'd guess that 50&#37; of the riders I know carry, and all would take what you did as a direct threat of their life.

Agreed. If I thought someone did something like that to me intentionally I'd have gotten off my bike and called the cops...if he was lucky.
 
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