New Ram OCZ Platinum EL pc3200 (2gb)

[Calculator83]

Hi guys, I just got this new ram for my computer, and I cannot get past the screen where it says Harddrive smart disable.

DFI lanparty Ultra D
Opteron 144 CPU 320 x 9
Memory OCZ platinum EL pc3200 (2gb verison)

Can you guys Reccommend me a new Bios or some settings.

 

[Arkaign]

Reset your cmos to clear your OC and all settings back to default. If you can get to windows from that point, then lower the HT ratio (3x or 4x should work), then slowly re-raise your clock speed back to a decent OC. A good rule of thumb is to find the limit, then back off a few percent from that.

 

[Calculator83]

Well,, Here is the thing

Everything was perfect Until this new ram.

my CPU was fine at this setting always, And the ram with the divider 3/5 is below 200mhz which should run it At the 2325 spec, But it does not. I'm an very confused as to the reason

Htt Is at 3x at the moment below 1000,.

 

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: Calculator83
Well,, Here is the thing

Everything was perfect Until this new ram.

my CPU was fine at this setting always, And the ram with the divider 3/5 is below 200mhz which should run it At the 2325 spec, But it does not. I'm an very confused as to the reason

Just because the OC worked with the old ram, does not mean that the new ram will work at the same settings.

You must take this in steps. You can write down all of your current settings before you reset/change anything if that will help later.

(1)- Make sure the new ram is not defective (IE; does not even work at stock settings)

(2)- Check the recommended voltage for your new memory. Some memory brands/makes require slightly different voltage to work reliably.

(3)- Something many people may not realize, is how many bios settings there are that are not accessible through normal means or the bios interface itself. It's not uncommon for a setting to get mixed up that isn't even displayed in the bios menu at all, and can only be cleared by using a special utility, or by resetting to defaults.

(4)- If you're able to get the system stable at stock settings, view that as the starting point, and go from there. If the unit is unstable at stock settings, then it's pretty clear you got a bad stick or two of memory. Bad ram is very common.

good luck

 

[Calculator83]

I Suppose it's just innate human Laziness kicking in

Starting point is

200mhz 1800mhz opteron 144
OCZ (I HATE U) EL platinum (200mhz 2325)

UGHHHHH

DO you got any General Tips for OCing 2gb Ram. Like TREF difference, etc..

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Don't even bother trying to O/C that ram, I have some and it's great low latency ram at stock speed but it doesn't overclock for squat. The OCZ platinum rev2's are great overclockers but not the plain platinum

 

[Calculator83]

Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
Don't even bother trying to O/C that ram, I have some and it's great low latency ram at stock speed but it doesn't overclock for squat. The OCZ platinum rev2's are great overclockers but not the plain platinum

I am Not trying to Overclock at ALL,

At about 250htt The ram would just stop working. Does the HTT have anything to do with stability for the Ram??

at 323x9 I'm using 3/5 divider, so 193mhz, Which is below DDR400. Why is this thing not working. even ran at Stock Mem Speeds.

IT WILL run if the HTT isn't moved up at all, as in default DDR400 at 2325. I'm baffled...

Anyone have different BIOSes they'd like to recommend? I'm using oscur wu's 702,703, 501,502,.

Non seems to solve the problem. I think it's the HTT ,, Any recs on how to fix that.

"PROBLEM IN SHORT" HTT 323 FINE with 1gb Plat rev 2, NOT fine with new 2gb Plat

 

[Calculator83]

BUMP

 

[hectorsm]

I ran into the same problem you did.

I bought that same OCZ Platinum 2-3-2-5 and it will not work on my DFI board when the CPU is overclocked above 2.2GHz. I eventually gave up and installed it im my son's computer (Epox NF3) which work perfectly fine even with FSB above 270MHz.

Try different memory dividers. I found out that some memory dividers don't work with my Patriot LLK ram. The lower memory dividers gave me more problems than the higher ones for some strange reason.

Also set your HTT to Auto. I have actually had better luck with the HTT in auto.

Finally, it appears that the DFI board is having problems with some of the currently sold DDR RAM out ther. That has been my experience with my two kits of Patrot LLK ram. But that is another story...

good luck!

 

[myocardia]

What are you people talking about? The Aeneon IC's in that RAM overclock very well. I used my 2-3-2-5 PQI Turbo (same IC's) for well over six months with my Opteron 170 @ 233 Mhz, and it was rock stable.

TI83 (sorry, I couldn't resist), use these settings to run the RAM at/slightly below 200 Mhz:

vdimm: 2.70-2.80v
Tcl: 2.0
Trcd: 3
Trp: 2
Tras: 5
Trc: 12
Trfc: 14
Tref: 1560
DQS Skew Control: Auto
DQS Skey Value: 0
DRAM Drive Strength: Level 6
DRAM Data Drive Strength: Level 4 (Reduce 0%)
DRAM Response Time: Normal
Idle Cycle Limit: 128 cycles


If you want to overclock the RAM, change these settings:

vdimm: 2.80v
Tcl: 2.5 or 3 (you'll have to try 2.5, it usually works, although it gave me lower performance)
Trcd: 3
Trp: 3
Tras: 7 or 8
Trc: 15
Trfc: 18
Tref: 1560 is good up to ~235-240 Mhz. If you want to try to run it faster than that, it will require a slightly higher value here, but no higher than 3120.
DRAM Drive Strength: Level 6 or Level 4

 

[Calculator83]

Originally posted by: myocardia
What are you people talking about? The Aeneon IC's in that RAM overclock very well. I used my 2-3-2-5 PQI Turbo (same IC's) for well over six months with my Opteron 170 @ 233 Mhz, and it was rock stable.

TI83 (sorry, I couldn't resist), use these settings to run the RAM at/slightly below 200 Mhz:

vdimm: 2.70-2.80v
Tcl: 2.0
Trcd: 3
Trp: 2
Tras: 5
Trc: 12
Trfc: 14
Tref: 1560
DQS Skew Control: Auto
DQS Skey Value: 0
DRAM Drive Strength: Level 6
DRAM Data Drive Strength: Level 4 (Reduce 0%)
DRAM Response Time: Normal
Idle Cycle Limit: 128 cycles


If you want to overclock the RAM, change these settings:

vdimm: 2.80v
Tcl: 2.5 or 3 (you'll have to try 2.5, it usually works, although it gave me lower performance)
Trcd: 3
Trp: 3
Tras: 7 or 8
Trc: 15
Trfc: 18
Tref: 1560 is good up to ~235-240 Mhz. If you want to try to run it faster than that, it will require a slightly higher value here, but no higher than 3120.
DRAM Drive Strength: Level 6 or Level 4

Ur sure you have the Same ram as I do? I just tried Both the settings and Niether has worked. What was ur FSB during Your OC.

 

[hectorsm]

Originally posted by: myocardia
What are you people talking about? The Aeneon IC's in that RAM overclock very well. I used my 2-3-2-5 PQI Turbo (same IC's) for well over six months with my Opteron 170 @ 233 Mhz, and it was rock stable.

TI83 (sorry, I couldn't resist), use these settings to run the RAM at/slightly below 200 Mhz:

vdimm: 2.70-2.80v
Tcl: 2.0
Trcd: 3
Trp: 2
Tras: 5
Trc: 12
Trfc: 14
Tref: 1560
DQS Skew Control: Auto
DQS Skey Value: 0
DRAM Drive Strength: Level 6
DRAM Data Drive Strength: Level 4 (Reduce 0%)
DRAM Response Time: Normal
Idle Cycle Limit: 128 cycles


If you want to overclock the RAM, change these settings:

vdimm: 2.80v
Tcl: 2.5 or 3 (you'll have to try 2.5, it usually works, although it gave me lower performance)
Trcd: 3
Trp: 3
Tras: 7 or 8
Trc: 15
Trfc: 18
Tref: 1560 is good up to ~235-240 Mhz. If you want to try to run it faster than that, it will require a slightly higher value here, but no higher than 3120.
DRAM Drive Strength: Level 6 or Level 4

I have already tried those setting and it will not boot above CPU default speed. However, the OCZ platinum works great in my son's computer even when with heavy CPU overclocks.

Like I mentioned in my previous post there seems to be a problem between the DFI lanparty NF4 and the newest Low Letancy ram out there. I have a year old Patriot LLK ram that works great. I bought a new kit of that same exact ram and it has similar problems as the OCZ. I removed my new Patriot LLK plug in my old Patriot LLK(from last year) and the problem is completly gone. I have exchanged(RMA) my new Patriot LLK and the second kit still has the same problem. The only way to boot with this ram was to use 2.5-3-3-6 at 2T. If I install all 4 sticks then I have to change my timming to 3-3-3-6 2T.

The bottom line is that the same brand and model of RAM from last year works fine but this years batch for some reason does not.

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: Calculator83
Ur sure you have the Same ram as I do? I just tried Both the settings and Niether has worked. What was ur FSB during Your OC.

Yeah, it's like comparing Mushkin BH-5 with Corsair BH-5, compared to XYZ BH-5. The IC is all that matters. Are you 100% sure you changed every single one of those settings? One setting is as important as the next, you can't skip any at all. And I was at a 280 FSB, using the 180 Mhz divider.

BTW, there are no shortcuts to overclocking. It's all about trial and error, and figuring out where the limits of your components are. Hey, have you read the Anandtech guide to overclocking Athlon 64's?

Originally posted by: hectorsm
I have already tried those setting and it will not boot above CPU default speed. However, the OCZ platinum works great in my son's computer even when with heavy CPU overclocks.

You might want to check out that link above, also.

 

[hectorsm]

It has been a while since I read that thread. It brings good memories with my old Epox NF3 board overclocking day.

Unfortunately, both the OCZ and the new Patriot will not boot (or is unstable) at the lower memory dividers like 100MHz. To boot I have to use at least the 150MHz memory divider which will overclocked my memory and forces me to set the slower timings I mentioned before.

Too bad I paid so much for higher quality memory. I should have just bought the cheap ones instead.

Anyway, thanks for your help.

 

[Calculator83]

SUN OF A Gurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

 

[WobbleWobble]

I have the same RAM and a very similar board DFI LanParty "Expert" UT SLI-DR and it's also extremely finicky on the settings. In fact, it also matters what RAM slots you use (at least in my case).

My RAM runs fine and I believe I've used lower dividers in the past (133Mhz) with no problems. I've overclocked with this RAM and my DFI board past 2.6GHz with my Opteron 165. I think my limiting factor was the CPU.

Have you referenced this yet?

OCZ Memory Settings for AMD DFI boards

 

[Calculator83]

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: Calculator83
Ur sure you have the Same ram as I do? I just tried Both the settings and Niether has worked. What was ur FSB during Your OC.

Yeah, it's like comparing Mushkin BH-5 with Corsair BH-5, compared to XYZ BH-5. The IC is all that matters. Are you 100% sure you changed every single one of those settings? One setting is as important as the next, you can't skip any at all. And I was at a 280 FSB, using the 180 Mhz divider.

BTW, there are no shortcuts to overclocking. It's all about trial and error, and figuring out where the limits of your components are. Hey, have you read the Anandtech guide to overclocking Athlon 64's?

Originally posted by: hectorsm
I have already tried those setting and it will not boot above CPU default speed. However, the OCZ platinum works great in my son's computer even when with heavy CPU overclocks.

You might want to check out that link above, also.

My CPU stock is 1.8ghz, ran at 2.9ghz for 1.45 years no problem whatsoever, Only issue i think is FSB 323 x 9 the high fsb seems to be causing the ram issue because the clock is below 200mhz with the 3/5 divider.

 

[Zenoth]

Sorry to say it but that RAM, for me, has been absolute rubbish.

If we both talk about that model: http://www.ocztechnology.com/p...l_ddr_pc_3200_platinum

Then yes, it's total crap for OC'ing. You CAN get about a 10% OC with that RAM with absolute STABLE settings, but anything above that just forget about it. Well I'm here talking as if it also concerned you, so let me rectify that. It MIGHT be a different story for you and anyone else using the exact same RAM, but the thing is everything I've read about it around the web just confirmed me that the RAM in question was never meant for OC'ing (quite ironic considering the company's name).

Good luck OC'ing with that, I believe you'll need it.